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Anonymous5Well its been a while since I put up a new topic, but I guess I needed some time to come to grips with the reality about the relations~~~ without going into a mad uncontrolable rage. So here it goes.
I shouldve known better when the woman i was having a relationship with early on, after I told her what I thought about something she had asked my opinion about, and I gave her the truth said, and I quote, “you shouldve not been so honest” that that relationship was destined for the scrapheap,and become another story from my past that would need explaining to all of my loved ones and family members. It also said alot about her morals, or the lack of them, and how she would deal with me in the future. This woman I met almost 6 years ago, online in one of those dating sites. For her age she was not bad looking and we talked for hours at a time over the phone. She seemed to be perfect and exactly what I was looking for in my type of a woman.
But 3 months into the relationship her niece moved in with her and I watched and listened to her quickly decend into a ghetto woman, who was drinking all the time, and it seemed that she could not talk to me unless she was sedated with alcohol. She had told me that she had been 11 years free of her drug of choice marijuana, and I had told her in the beginning that if she ever returned to using that drug, that I would not have her in my life. And she agreed to that. Before her decent into becoming unrecognizable, we had made promises to each other . So I thought all was well between us. She had candles that she kept outside on a patio table and we would often do our talking there on the phone and also on Skype . So I never thought about it when she would light candles, she would light them out of my view and set one lit on the table. I trusted her so it never occured to me that anything strange was going on.
But in december of that year she told me that she was going to see her long time best friend and that she had promised her friend that the next time they met that they would share a joint together, and that she was going to do that even against my protesting about it. So I reminded her what I had told her I would do if she returned to her drug of choice, but that didnt phase her one bit !!!!! She then said that she “wasnt going to have any man tell her what to do”. so she hung up on me and went to see her friend, they went to a local park drank beers and smoked weed. Both of them driving around drunk and high as a kite.
The next day she called me to let me know what she and her friend had done. I was p~~~ed off to say the least, and I said I wasnt going to be with someone who had an addiction, and who’s friend could over rule our agreements between us.
So a few days later she went back home and her friend had convinced her that because I got p~~~ed about her breaking our agreement that if she would be with me that I was going to beat her everyday just because of the part of the country where I lived. Her friend tried so hard to convince her that the St Louis area was out in the sticks and we were all bass ackwards, hicks, male dominant Bible thumping wife beaters with monsters living in the forests around my home. And the bitch took her at her word. And decided from that point to not keep to anything she had promised, but she insisted that I keep to my vows/ promises to her.
After that because she didnt keep her word to me i decided that well I needed rethink the situation i found myself in , so i took a couple months break, and I had decided that I was over with that woman.
Then came the day she wrote me an e-mail out of the blue and I responded, and went right back to the thing I had vomited out a couple months prior. Everything was fine until without any notice or discussion with me she decided to move to a city 45 miles away, where I would not be able to have any communication with her, and again she would not consider me in that equation, but one night as she was lighting a candle out of my sight I told her hey I know what your doing , and i asked her why she felt it necessary to do hide what she was doing. But i was referring to her lighting the candle.
But instead she sat down infront of me and lit her pipe !!! And it was from that point on I knew could not trust her, the only thing that kept me there was my word to her
And it did for three more years. And everything after the pipe, including her picking up broken glass and eating it, while in one of her stupors while drunk she asked me if I wanted to do a threesome, I told her that she needed to get rid of all her single male friends, as I got rid of all the female singles on my social media page, she threw a fit. One in particular I had bad feelings about. I went to see her in her home and the only access to the internet there was on her tablet, and when I turned it on her facebook page came up and she had a instant message from this same guy. So i read it and everything they had exchanged with each other, the man was talking me down to her, filling her head with lie after lie, and giving her advice to leave me. But the kicker was her dead husbands picture was still on her facebook page, and a couple of pictures she had stashed away in her christmas ornaments , in a purse she was looking through while I was standing in front of her, her face lost all color and i asked her what was it , her response was “its nothing”. Well the next day I went out and found that purse and pulled out pictures she said was nothing to her. They were not sexual in nature but her reactions made me wonder what in the hell did she really feel about me. But she lied about that , she lied about her weed usage, so this woman was and is capable of lying about anythng and or anyone to me. I came home and dumped her ass like greased lightning. I am so glad I didnt marry her I can only imagine how that wouldve turned out.
My advice is this if a woman thinks its perfectly ok to lie to her about anything, she is telling you that thats what she will do to you. And thats been my experience of all women.I have no clue why you are on this site. You post reads like the cry of a blue pilled simp whose woman has done him wrong. What the hell did you expect? AWALT
And putting conditions on how her behavior must be in order to have relationship with you? She should have told you to f~~~ off when you started that s~~~.
You need to read every post on this site before you consider dating a woman. It can be fun and games, just don’t get emotional about it.
TTW
I ain't got a wife to spend my money, I have to do that all by myself.
But instead she sat down infront of me and lit her pipe !!! And it was from that point on I knew could not trust her, the only thing that kept me there was my word to herAnd it did for three more years.
She’s got OBVIOUS substance Abuse problems, and YOU CHOSE to hang in there WITH HER for “three more years”. Addicts could care LESS about YOU never mind “your word”.
Some times, we truly are our own worse enemy.
My advice is this if a woman thinks its perfectly ok to lie to her about anything, she is telling you that thats what she will do to you. And thats been my experience of all women.
My advice to YOU is that YOU can’t have a “normal” relationship with your average lil Ho, and it’s IMPOSSIBLE to have a relationship with an addict. Take it as you wish, but Living out YOUR LIFE as a Captain Save a Ho for addicts isn’t much of a life for YOU……
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Avoid unnecessary drama.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Anonymous5You’re the addict, not her. You’re trying to frame this like it’s her logical problem. It’s not, it’s your emotional problem.
When you were Blue Pilled you allowed, encouraged, your brain to secrete a concoction of exhilarating love bonding hormones and initiated brain changing processes that accompany male/female bonding.
There was no high like “falling in love” was there!!! There’s no higher “HIGH” than luuuuurv.
You indulged yourself. You fell in love with a figment of your imagination, not the real her but it felt good to stick that LOVE needle into your arm, didn’t it!Be real, if any other person on earth behaved the way she’s behaving, man or woman, you’d kick them to the curb in an instant. Furthermore, it’s unlikely you’d lose a moments sleep over it ever again.
You’re the problem and it’ll take years for you to wean yourself off the love drugs but don’t worry, you can do it if you stick to reality, if you acknowledge that you were in love with love, not her.
It’ll only take 2 or 3 years, possibly 10, but one day you’ll look back and giggle as to how naive you were.I have no clue why you are on this site. You post reads like the cry of a blue pilled simp whose woman has done him wrong. What the hell did you expect? AWALT
And putting conditions on how her behavior must be in order to have relationship with you? She should have told you to f~~~ off when you started that s~~~.
You need to read every post on this site before you consider dating a woman. It can be fun and games, just don’t get emotional about it.
TTWAgreed. @nevets61.. Dude.. You need help and you wont find it here until youre ready to let it all go. You are the addict. I mean really? This woman is an atomic bomb and youre captain save a hoe. WTF is wrong with you boy? Grow a pair. Clean your s~~~ up and then some back and talk to us. Youre literally accepting garbage to live in your living room.
#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS
Well Brother, you are not going to have a fridge to put beer in if you keep going along with what you are doing.
I know the response is harsh, but I think you are in that grieving phase, and you need to just open up about it. I am here to listen and so are many others. But as long as you keep doing the same old thing, you are going to get the same results.
Just yesterday after picking up some stuff from the home depot, I walked to my car, and behold 2 police cars. Arresting a man in a beat up Minivan and his hoe in tow, was just happy as clam. Even flirted with the officer. Yup. Typical drug couple. Seems he may have stolen something from a target? Not sure.
Now if her attitude was any more flirtatious, she would have gave that f~~~er a BJ just to keep going on her way. So what does that tell you about women bro? And here you have one that does drugs?
Look man, I know its hard to tear away from the notion that she is not really a woman anymore. She is a Junkie. An addict, and one that not only fights with her own nature, she is also living for her own master. And that is not even herself.
So what does that tell you> Either your dick needs to dispense Heroin, or you are going to be out of luck. And it better be JUST her tailor made brand. No other will do. Unless you got that sort of control, or happen to BE her DEALER… You got no chance in hell of ANYTHING. PERIOD.
I’m going to let you in on a hurtful reality, she was sucking dick for those drugs bro. All women do it. No mater who they are, or how much money they have, they will do whatever they can to get those pills ,or drugs etc. Her fix is more important then anything else in her life.
Its one of the reasons why Homeless men prefer the lifestyle, since there is always a nice piece of ass willing to f~~~ them for some sweet sweet drugs.
Look man, Pick up the movie interstate 60. Watch it, and don’t f~~~ around with anything else.
THen PIck up Jennifer Conley’s epic FLick where she’s happy to suck dick, Perform Live Dildo shows with women all for the fix she needs.
Arguably some of these women are quite the catch. But the wall come fast. It hits hard. And even that skinny body is not going to keep those drugs coming. Sooner or later, they are going to start stealing, picking up cans, or f~~~ing over anyone that gets in the way of their drug habit.
It happened to me bro. I did not even suspect she was a real pill popper. But she was. Hell her daughter was a great gateway to get more drugs she needed. And f~~~, my former best friend was all too happy to oblige as well.
And you want to get MARRIED and POSSIBLY HAVE CHILDREN?
I’m being very polite here, but I think it’s a good time to take a LONG break from women. Possibly a year long breather. I know how it feels to let go of something you care about. And I know women are amazing at keeping you on the hook. But brother, do you really want to eat some random dudes clam chowder. Or have his spunk rub your back down on her hands? Maybe you enjoy having 3 somes. fine.
But your going to have to separete your sexucal needs from your desrires to have a relationship pronto.
I will bet you $20 dollars that if there was a man that both of you knew, you might want to go get that STD check today. Just saying.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
“She lost me after the first lie.”
But that’s not what happens in your story. You might want to be more honest with yourself.Its time to hope blade posts something funny. THis s~~~ hits too close to home.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
You’re the addict, not her. You’re trying to frame this like it’s her logical problem. It’s not, it’s your emotional problem.
This.
From Strunk & White’s The Elements of Style, we find this bit of literary advice:
“Rule 17: Omit Needless Words.
Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts. This requires not that the writer make all his sentences short, or that he avoid all detail and treat his subjects only in outline, but that every word tell.”
In regards to MGTOW:
Omit Needless C~~~s.
A man’s life should contain no unnecessary women and no unnecessary drama.
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
I find it funny, that people have been baking cakes all of their life, and when they want to bake a pie, they get the same ingredients they got their whole life, bake a cake, and expect a pie. This is the definition of insanity.
AWALT. You expected an unicorn, you expected a lotus flower, took her out of the s~~~ and dirt, and you expected that she would not be stained.
And BOY, you have been proved wrong. HARD.You are the problem. You put yourself into that position, and you expected that you could change or keep a lying child on her promises and oaths…
You have been fooled once again, and you fell for it line, hooker and sinker! I hope (really, I do) that you LEARN from that mistake, and refrain from repeating it, over and over.Take your red pills and walk away, brother. You need to walk away.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
My advice is this if a woman thinks its perfectly ok to lie to her about anything, she is telling you that thats what she will do to you. And thats been my experience of all women.
Is this the same story about the same pot smoking woman you posted about a year ago? Weed Gal In fact, more than two of your threads seem to be about the same gal. I’m sorry if I’m mistaken, but if I’m not, you really need to get over this gal.
“…………IF a woman thinks it’s………ok to lie……”…..????…… You’ve described every woman on the planet.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Nevets61, now that you’ve received a pretty unanimous response from several men here, I would urge you to consider the following:
1. The men here are trying to help you. We want to see you succeed and eliminate the pain in your life you are bringing upon yourself. Don’t get offended by what we have to say, but understand that we aren’t going to give you any mealy-mouthed bulls~~~. Being fake is the province of women. Not men.
2. Take a no-nonsense look at your life. Be ruthless with yourself. Ask yourself why on earth you are allowing this woman in your life. I would bet it comes down to pussy, right? To prove this theory, ask yourself if you would stay with her if you knew there was no chance of pussy, ever. I really doubt you would, no matter what other “wonderful qualities” you might try to bulls~~~ yourself into thinking she has.Unc~~~ yourself. Today.
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
Oy Vey…
OP this is for you.
1.) Briffault’s Law and Hypergamy. Don’t fight it. Just accept it for what it is; like the sky being blue and the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. “It is what it is”
2.) Women lie as naturally as breathing. For 2 million years their lives depended on deceiving and manipulating men. Women do not have time to know every man who hits on them: so women will s~~~ test the man. They will do so at a subconscious level…as automatic breathing.
3.) Women are Amoral because evolutionarily speaking morality is something they could not afford to be. Women are designed to be without any sort of moral compass and without any deep emotional bond. They had to be: because for 2 million years: life was brutally short and her man would be killed by a warring tribe and or tiger and she would be gang raped by plundering vikings. In order to survive she had to NOT be in love with her husband or not very much. Women physically get turned on by very violent and psychotic men who are also “charming” in a Ted Bundy sort of way….they are hardwired that way, by biology.
4.) you have to let go of your red pill rage, and you have to let go of all of your preconceived notions that men and women are the same: they are not; they are wired very very differently. And women are simply incapable of things that men are capable of. Men are far more conscious and self aware than women are. Statistically men are smarter and are experts in spatial problems, problems with time and space, and how to manipulate nature. Women are experts at manipulating men, and men are naturally hardwired to be guillable around women: it’s just one of those cruel jokes that nature pulled on both sexes. From an Evolutionary standpoint the Human Specie unlike most other species in the world: are very highly specialized in division of work by sex. Men went out and hunted and went to war with neighboring tribes. Women stayed in the cave, cooked and cared to the young. A female human (proportionally) is by far weaker than her male counterpart. Unlike other species where females and males are more similar to each other.
Anonymous5Two time winner :
If someone comes into your life and says that they “have had trouble in their past abusing controlled substances” and you say out loud that their use of that controlled substance is a deal breaker, for whatever reasons you feel are important to you. Are you trying to tell me that you should allow them to break their word to you, that you would not be angry , upset, and just let them carry on as usual ? Let me explain something to you, the substance in question is weed, and the importance of me not wanting to be exposed to her drug abuse goes a bit further than just the surface. I have chronic Asthma that is barely kept under control with all the inhalers and medications I have to take as it is, things that make it virtually impossible to breath is smoke of any sort, perfumes , chemicals, mold, mildew and all the fun things that happen durring the spring, and fall especially.
The thing Two Time Winner is she knew all of this, and she knew what would happen if I found out she was using again.
Now I havent been involved in any kind of relationship for over at least two and a half years , voluntarily , I have not dated, or even tried to get involved with any woman and Im not about to even try. I may have written about this before but I do not know how to access my posts, so starting from scratch seemed the only option I had. But Two timmer name calling and belitteling is inappropriate, and telling me “I have no clue why you are on this site. You post reads like the cry of a blue pilled simp” if telling this bitch that I wasnt going to be with someone who wouldnt keep her word and lie to me is a bad thing, then what in the world is this site really all about. We call men simps, manginas, pussy whipped, blue pillers for not standing up to a lying, self centered woman, and we encourage them to leave and get the Hell out. It is my last statement that sums it all up Two Time Winner “My advice is this if a woman thinks its perfectly ok to lie to her about anything, she is telling you that thats what she will do to you. And thats been my experience of all women.” I never once said that I wanted to go back and try to make the relationship work, or get back together, or give her any excuses for her behavior. But instead I kept my word to her and to myself. Thats the most important thing to me. I am red pill all the way, and everyday I look to keep myself informed about the tactics women use to entrap men . To ignore that anyone not keeping their word doesnt hurt, would be lying to myself. Because it does. And if they are unfaithful, thats the most destructive of them all. That goes to the core of any mans heart, or are we all here heartless beings? I highly doubt it.That only makes me a human being. But what I do with that hurt is what seperates me from pussy whipped, simps, cucks, and manginas and I have chosen to go my own way, and I imagine I will die the same way I came into this world alone, I will die happy, and I am fine with that. And if you think I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this site then have me thrown off, but that will not change the direction I have chosen for my life. It will only go to show that both sexes I cannot trust and nor should I. Always keep that in the back of your minds. None of us should lay judgement upon another if we dont know or understand the circumstances which they are under. I have heard it said here that every male is on their own path, their own journey, in their own way and on different levels and plains. If they come here and they have just broken up with their woman, are you going to criticize them or welcome them in so you can support them and give them helpful advice, or the exact opposite ? I respect those who treat me with respect. But those who dont, I refuse to respect.I respect those who treat me with respect. But those who dont, I dont really care.
Dude, respectfully, chill the f~~~ out. Even though they may seem harsh, none of these responses have been that bad. We are just trying to help you with succinct, to the point posts that don’t read like a damn encyclopedia as your posts do.
It’s difficult to find the point in your first post of this thread, but it reads like you really complicated the situation with this lying doper bitch. All women lie. Don’t get emotionally involved with them. F~~~ ’em and forget about ’em, or just stay away from them completely. It really is that simple. You want to get emotionally involved with a female, then you have nothing to offer here and we cannot help you.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Anonymous5I understand And I agree Hermit absolutely 100%, The point in my first point is the very last sentence, and it came with its long story first lol No more women period and its been that way for 2 1/2 years :), I am a writer by nature, and it hasnt been only you who has said in my life that Im long winded. I will try in my future posts to keep them smaller though lol.
I understand And I agree Hermit absolutely 100%, The point in my first point is the very last sentence, and it came with its long story first lol No more women period and its been that way for 2 1/2 years :), I am a writer by nature, and it hasnt been only you who has said in my life that Im long winded. I will try in my future posts to keep them smaller though lol.
Ah, and therefore, you’re long windedness may be the catalyst to the type of responses you’ve received. As Silver Fox pointed out and as you can obviously see, most of the responses are very similar. Also as Silver Fox pointed out, omitting needless words when writing can help the readers better understand the thoughts you are trying to convey.
So, yes, I’m pretty sure everyone here can agree with you that all women are liars. Not that men don’t lie, but it sure seems to come very natural to women and they have no guilt or conviction about it at all. In fact, when you catch them in a lie, not only do they have no remorse, but they get p~~~ed off at you for catching them and calling them out on it.
What the f~~~? So they dude just bailed? I didn’t even get to finish my response and he’s f~~~in’ gone. Guess he didn’t belong here after all.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Where are these people coming from? Old people who signed up and just never post I guess…. but last time I checked, you cant sign up here…
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