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Before I was even on this site Partcipating in the Forumns I use to talk to blue pills about Fertility replacement rate(FRR), Sub-Replacement Fertility (SRF), and Total Fertily Rate (TFR).
The Most Important out of the three is TFR.
TFR , the total period fertility rate of a population is the average number of children that would be born to a women over her lifetime IF:1.)she were to Experience the exact current age-specific fertility rates through her lifetime
And,
2.)She were to Survive from birth through the end of her reproductive life.Taking a second to thank Third Wave Feminism a Womens Reproductive life is more a long the lines of non-existent.
The Average age of First-Time-Moms in 2014 was 26 – today I’m sure its Older.The Average age is most likely early to late Thirties.(U.S)
Pregnancy Risks around 35 are the result of a womens Reproductive health which is sub-standard considering Pregnancy requirements that result in healthy offspring.
Reproductive risks include INFERTILITY and misscarriage, Offspring Infertility,premature delivery and stillbirth, gestational diabetes ,hyperstensive disorders of pregnancy , C-section, Chromosomal abnormalities in offspring and growth retardation in offspring.
Before I get to the part that Explains the eventual end of the human Speicies because of everything that Contradicts the future Survival of our Speicies, I wanted to reflect on Something that a Japanese citizan said in the video above:
“my Guess is that A lot of guys cant be bothered.For example, even texting girls can be a hassle.So they(guys) stop communicating and the relationship is dead before it could even begin.
Another citizen who commented described an issue parrelell to the U.S. By stating
” In Japan , I think there are too many Video games and other indoor activities that prevent people from socializing”
So When do men and Women Stop communicating?When Women become too problematic for men and men decide to invest their time and energy into something that purely satisfies them on an Individual level.
Considering the Current Social state betwwen the sexes and Thinking about what Stage the U.S is at Currently considering our Current Social Climate were closely following behind Japan where Men and Women stop Communicating alltoghether and we become the second sexless society. Other Countries will be following suit after the newly Introduced Ideology of Feminism Runs its course.
Considering everything Mentioned If you Logically think about the leading technology Industries and the appearence of Artificial Wombs you can Draw a few Connections we Wont waste Time getting into.The Strategy Will fail however , there is a response completely obvious to anyone who takes notice regarding the decent of Male and Female Relationships.That is to say they have declined to the point the government intends to avoid a gobal disaster, and one it recognizes as such if humanitys current course continues.
Taking a moment now, I’d like to define FRR and SRF so we can draw the nescesarry Conclusions regarding the eventual Decline of the U.S.
SRF is a TFR that (If Sustained) leads to each new Generation being less populas than the older previos Generation until the populas eventually and Completely Declines to 0.Why because the Amount of Women Decreases along with a decrease in population and whatever contributed to the decline in one generation will continue into each new generation.
Replacement level fertility is the TFR-the average number of Children born per Woman at which a population exactly replaces itself, except a male or female birth is never guarented to the next generation unless a Women is bearing atleast one Female replacement for herself and Male replacement for the father which isnt happening anywhere in the World except Africa at exactly FRR.
Once in decline no known Civilization has ever reached FRR.
Its mathematically impossible for an SRF to reach FRR based on its state of decline.
This will be my last post where I participate in a discussion. Because the worlds f~~~ed and I want to live my life and realize it wont get better I’m leaving the Gender battle for good .There arent any winners in our future, just an Empty planet. May Jesus bless the willing.I also have big Plans regarding a certain future acomplishment I’m going to put everything into and cant be interupted-I cant let anything get in the way of it. I’ve concluded I cant let the world and BS distractions get to me in spite of what I’ll lose.It was a pleasure conversing with many of you.
Notice how they all estimate they are WAY more men who are virgins than women. Look no further: the problem is and always has been hypergamy.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

Anonymous43Unless there are some major legislative changes, the population in many countries will decline.
Either remove the current punitive divorce laws and replace them with zero alimony, zero child support remove the no fault divorce option and force these idiot women from declaring “I’m not haaaaapy I want a divorce” and force them to stay in serviceable marriages.
Divorce should be a clean break. parenting time split in half or buy out the other parent’s time. House should be liquidated and proceeds divided equally. Child expenses are based on the ability of parents to pay. No alimony. Period.
Or keep the present system in place, and men will continue to see what happens to other men in divorce and continue to avoid that s~~~ vortex.
Not participating is the driving force here, avoiding divorce rape, false allegations, financial penalties and disease avoidance will continue to make men go their own way. Avoiding women, abstaining from sex, and not participating in societal expectations will be the most efficient way for men to lead happier lives.
Women will ultimately suffer enormously in the future. Why would I share my resources with some woman who will wreck my life in the future for some perceived “better” man? I will never put myself in that position ever again. I was 39 when I was divorced, plenty of time to find another woman and have more children. Nope, not gonna happen. Im 47 now, still plenty of time to make more children. Nope, still not gonna happen. What’s worse is what woman would want me knowing I am giving away 20% of my money to some kids she will never meet? That’s the part no one is talking about, What ever I make for the week, Monday belongs to the c~~~. It is C~~~day. Woman’s hypergamy will not let me participate in the system. What kind of woman will monkey branch to me…a school teacher with a child support payment? Just the worst of the worst, the drowning fighting the drowning. “Good quality” women will find me absolutely useless.
I find women useless, or worse, a detriment to my life, and I have no resources to share with a new woman, still paying into the old c~~~. LOL old c~~~ is 43, and hit the wall. No one will want her to make more kids. The chad wants her because she makes a lot of money…she is the wallet.
Thanks to all my MGTOW brothers for helping me understand how the system really works. I wish I had figured this out 20 years ago, saved myself all this aggravation and expense. Oh well. The next 20 years, working for myself will be amazing.

Anonymous18This will be my last post where I participate in a discussion. Because the worlds f~~~ed and I want to live my life and realize it wont get better I’m leaving the Gender battle for good .There arent any winners in our future, just an Empty planet.
I also have big Plans regarding a certain future acomplishment I’m going to put everything into and cant be interupted
You sound like a bipolar going through a manic phase.
Empty planet secondary to sub-replacement breeding? Sure.
What if in future dogs can read?
You need them to find this place. DGTOW since ABALT.
If my choice not to marry or have children dooms society and humanity then I’m perfectly happy with that. I use to have a very wide and varied network of female friends and watched literally ALL of them destroy and manipulate men for their own personal enrichment.
I didn’t come into this world despising women. Indeed the opposite, typical white knight. Trying to please and make them happy. I’ve jumped in the car at silly o’clock in the morning because one was upset. I’ve flown half way across the world for another. Think about your own lives, many of us went above and beyond and not even always to get laid. Did they demonstrate the same level of consideration for us?
And now see how it’s changing. Women in our society are complaining. They’re realising just what their behaviour has earnt them. No man. No marriage and no kids. If there are any women lurking here let me say this to you. You brought this on yourselves. Because I’m OUT. And if you smugly think you don’t give a damn, look at the statistics. Look at your female friends and possibly yourself. You’re on your own with nothing but a cat for company. Then think about how you treated men.
Despite the feminist propaganda this site isn’t filled with balding virgins who can’t get laid. We have had relationships. We gave you everything. Our time. Our money. Our lives. We are professionals. Hard workers. And what did you do? Take. Take. Take. Using deceit and cruelty. Gods help you, because we won’t.
This will be my last post where I participate in a discussion. Because the worlds f~~~ed and I want to live my life and realize it wont get better I’m leaving the Gender battle for good .There arent any winners in our future, just an Empty planet.
I also have big Plans regarding a certain future acomplishment I’m going to put everything into and cant be interupted
You sound like a bipolar going through a manic phase.
Empty planet secondary to sub-replacement breeding? Sure.
What if in future dogs can read?
You need them to find this place. DGTOW since ABALT.
This will be my last post where I participate in a discussion. Because the worlds f~~~ed and I want to live my life and realize it wont get better I’m leaving the Gender battle for good .There arent any winners in our future, just an Empty planet.
I also have big Plans regarding a certain future acomplishment I’m going to put everything into and cant be interupted
You sound like a bipolar going through a manic phase.
Empty planet secondary to sub-replacement breeding? Sure.
What if in future dogs can read?
You need them to find this place. DGTOW since ABALT.
Last time I checked the criteria for manic/hypomanic Episodes that result in a clinical Diagnostic for Bipolar Disorder in table 1.1:DSM-IV for Manic/Hypomanic Episodes that charecterize the illness are
1.A Distinct period of abnormally and persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood lasting one week
During the mood Disturbance three or more of the following symptoms must be present
1.Inflated sense of self-esteem or grandiosity
2.A decreased need for sleep
3.Excessive talking or a pressure to keep talking
4.A flight of ideas or a subjective expierience that thoughts are racing
5.High Distractability(which is Subjective Mania)
6.Increase in Goal-oriented activity(sexually)
7.Excessive involvment in pleasure seekingFor Hypomanic episodes to be Clinically Diagnosed there has to be a two-day duration of the above described symtoms that result in a clinical diagnostic for bipolar disorder.for Simply stating I’m going to focus on myself because the worlds going to s~~~ i really doubt the veracity of your claim as sufficient criteria.Also if my Conclusions seem outlandish or too outlandish for you I have two pages of citations. I could also be a complete asshole but ill leave it.I dont beilieve Nowhere did i stated anything compareable to a dog reading to a book.
Notice how they all estimate they are WAY more men who are virgins than women. Look no further: the problem is and always has been hypergamy.
I found that interesting aswell.The way you articulated the point also awesomely leaves no room for argument.
Judging the extent of how many male Virgins there are by Comparing how many female Virgins there arent suggests a Common denominator amongst Females and the Males they sleep with.
I’ll be dead before ANY of this has any IMPACT on me. Therefore, it’s just another thing in life that I just have zero f~~~s to give !!
Take Care of Yourself Brother !!
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Unless there are some major legislative changes, the population in many countries will decline.
Either remove the current punitive divorce laws and replace them with zero alimony, zero child support remove the no fault divorce option and force these idiot women from declaring “I’m not haaaaapy I want a divorce” and force them to stay in serviceable marriages.
Divorce should be a clean break. parenting time split in half or buy out the other parent’s time. House should be liquidated and proceeds divided equally. Child expenses are based on the ability of parents to pay. No alimony. Period.
Or keep the present system in place, and men will continue to see what happens to other men in divorce and continue to avoid that s~~~ vortex.
Not participating is the driving force here, avoiding divorce rape, false allegations, financial penalties and disease avoidance will continue to make men go their own way. Avoiding women, abstaining from sex, and not participating in societal expectations will be the most efficient way for men to lead happier lives.
Women will ultimately suffer enormously in the future. Why would I share my resources with some woman who will wreck my life in the future for some perceived “better” man? I will never put myself in that position ever again. I was 39 when I was divorced, plenty of time to find another woman and have more children. Nope, not gonna happen. Im 47 now, still plenty of time to make more children. Nope, still not gonna happen. What’s worse is what woman would want me knowing I am giving away 20% of my money to some kids she will never meet? That’s the part no one is talking about, What ever I make for the week, Monday belongs to the c~~~. It is C~~~day. Woman’s hypergamy will not let me participate in the system. What kind of woman will monkey branch to me…a school teacher with a child support payment? Just the worst of the worst, the drowning fighting the drowning. “Good quality” women will find me absolutely useless.
I find women useless, or worse, a detriment to my life, and I have no resources to share with a new woman, still paying into the old c~~~. LOL old c~~~ is 43, and hit the wall. No one will want her to make more kids. The chad wants her because she makes a lot of money…she is the wallet.
Thanks to all my MGTOW brothers for helping me understand how the system really works. I wish I had figured this out 20 years ago, saved myself all this aggravation and expense. Oh well. The next 20 years, working for myself will be amazing.
I think you made a great point that Women always go for the perceived better man.I really Wonder however if we men interpet that differently though than most modern Women.I Don’t know whether or not to think “man” even enters into the equation on account of the better mans personality and Characteristics so much as to what that man has that another man doesn’t. Like the ferrari such a Women wants to steal in Divorce court. Ever notice the bs that when a man focuses on himself theres a magical Girlfriend appearence after a dry spell?
Considering, Ironically , Second marriages are more likely to end in divorce whatever “better” there was didnt have anything to do with an idea grounded in Compatibility-that wasnt even the point of the “new”-“better” relationship.From what I can tell about a lot of modern Women is that if they opt out of 100 relationships its because the men arent trying hard enough to satisfy them Etc, etc but there Endgame was never to stick around in the first place.To most modern Women the game is get more than you give.
With regard to the laws I dont see any Women who have a problem with how men feel.If its not something feminists expierience it doesnt exist and unfortunately since the problem we men Expierience is the result oor byproduct of what feminists beilieve in I dont see change So much When the playing field is so imvalanced in modern Feminism.
IMO Most Modern Women can live without a man just not what they intend to take from him .Modern Whores exist somewhere between’relationship” and f~~~-friend#161.

Anonymous43If my choice not to marry or have children dooms society and humanity then I’m perfectly happy with that. I use to have a very wide and varied network of female friends and watched literally ALL of them destroy and manipulate men for their own personal enrichment.
I didn’t come into this world despising women. Indeed the opposite, typical white knight. Trying to please and make them happy. I’ve jumped in the car at silly o’clock in the morning because one was upset. I’ve flown half way across the world for another. Think about your own lives, many of us went above and beyond and not even always to get laid. Did they demonstrate the same level of consideration for us?
And now see how it’s changing. Women in our society are complaining. They’re realising just what their behaviour has earnt them. No man. No marriage and no kids. If there are any women lurking here let me say this to you. You brought this on yourselves. Because I’m OUT. And if you smugly think you don’t give a damn, look at the statistics. Look at your female friends and possibly yourself. You’re on your own with nothing but a cat for company. Then think about how you treated men.
Despite the feminist propaganda this site isn’t filled with balding virgins who can’t get laid. We have had relationships. We gave you everything. Our time. Our money. Our lives. We are professionals. Hard workers. And what did you do? Take. Take. Take. Using deceit and cruelty. Gods help you, because we won’t.
Exactly, It time for once that the modern hoes that are to Blame have to think about the s~~~vortex they started and for men to stop thinking about anything in terms of What they did Wrong.

Anonymous3lol I have a “fix”. But I don’t think the politicians, legislators, judges, and law enforcement that enforced the misandrist system are going to willingly walk into the guillotine for the betterment of mankind.
So it’s up to the cupcakes to get off their asses and drag these white knights to them. If this is really a problem, and it really concerns women, that’s what they’re going to have to do.
I guess they did start by voting Trump in, but that’s a small start, and they’re not silencing all the liberal women that are marching and still complaining. Get your house in order women. You want to pretend NAWALT and feminists don’t represent all women, but talk is cheap. Start the killing while I grab my popcorn.
Yup , by the end of the Average Lifespan of a person Japans f~~~ed.Notice all of the higher percentages cluster around middle aged adults.
3.5 and 3.6 Million ages 30-34And 3.8 ages 65-69 which is the largest part of the population split between male and female.
Considering that 4 million make up the ages between 0 and 4 out of 126 million people there graph is wrong.Another 30 year till Japan is tottaly f~~~ed.
Maybe it’s just my individuality that bristled, but most of the older people’s answers were Government-cententered. Sure they do the studies and keep the records, but herding is hard with anything smarter than livestock. People, even dumb one’s, react to their environment faster than government can change policy.
The answer is simple. When their women decided they wanted it all and became unattainable according to hypergamy more men decided to opt out. It happened at the same time as the tech boom, but is it causation or correlation?
The previous generation of men who saw the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze focused on their interests and made the games, apps, and tech items that the current generation of young men use to replace interaction with women.
The days of the salary man handing over his paycheck to his wife and dying at his desk are over. Good riddance.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
I’ll be dead before ANY of this has any IMPACT on me. Therefore, it’s just another thing in life that I just have zero f~~~s to give !!
Take Care of Yourself Brother !!
Unfortunately you like a lot of others, myself Included had to go through a lot of s~~~ however awakened, feminism was and is a double edged Sword and the beilievers of Female Priveledge are going to get it full circle. Thanks for your Wise Words While I was around.Young men have a lot to Learn from you Should they choose to be Wise.
Maybe it’s just my individuality that bristled, but most of the older people’s answers were Government-cententered. Sure they do the studies and keep the records, but herding is hard with anything smarter than livestock. People, even dumb one’s, react to their environment faster than government can change policy.
The answer is simple. When their women decided they wanted it all and became unattainable according to hypergamy more men decided to opt out. It happened at the same time as the tech boom, but is it causation or correlation?
The previous generation of men who saw the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze focused on their interests and made the games, apps, and tech items that the current generation of young men use to replace interaction with women.
The days of the salary man handing over his paycheck to his wife and dying at his desk are over. Good riddance.
Ogre , you are very poetic and poetry is the result of living a respectable, Great life as a great man.I feel like you would benefit making a book as much as others would benefit from reading it.
Anyways brothers, I appreiciate you for having me and Thanks to KM for letting me paticipate in the Forumns.Its been a Priveledge.
Parting Words to the Youngsters´: listen to these Wise Men, they in their Own right are the Modern Beethoven’s, Issac Newton’s , the Whole line-up.
I appreiciate all of the Discussions I’ve had While here and the Road to Discovery.I apologize If I ever offended anyone, Its something I’m trying to deal with and a battle I have to win.Because of that and because I beilieve it diminishes the value I can Contribute I respectfully ask to be Changed to a Forumns Spectator. Godspeed to the Current and future MGTOW. I wish everyone the best.

Anonymous3This will be my last post where I participate in a discussion. Because the worlds f~~~ed and I want to live my life and realize it wont get better I’m leaving the Gender battle for good .There arent any winners in our future, just an Empty planet.
I can understand where you are coming from. I had a few years to digest the “end of the world” (albeit a different scenario) and I also had a phase of sadness about it.
Not anymore. I now take it naturally as another phase if human history.
We are not exactly at the pinnacle of development as a species, because we would not be near our extinction if that was the case.
Our numbers are large, but so are the numbers of any plague. Its population booms until they exhaust every resource, then they have a great die-off.
Our knowledge and technology is great, yet it did not result in a sustainable civilization. The most important aspect, wouldn’t you think so?
Our mindset is that man is the measure of all things.
This is the mentality that created the problem to begin with. We cannot live outside nature, above nature or destroying nature. We must live harmoniously with nature, because we ARE nature.
The failure of gender relationships is the result of ignoring natural roles, going against nature, and thinking we know better than nature.
This planet would be full of life, even if humankind disappears. The worst we can do will be cleaned up in a few million years.
Life prevails.
But I think mankind will survive. Not in the present form, but it will.
The mankind of the future will have more chances to rebuild other civilizations, hopefully more sustainable than this one.So, nothing is lost, nothing is gained.
Its a natural cycle.
Relax.
Japan loves its Hentai lol

Anonymous3The West will fall, and honestly I consider Japan part of the West. A new, superior culture will arise, one that has more masculinity. It is the cycle of humanity.
I don’t think we are the endgame, not quite yet at any rate. While communication is improved and the Western influence reaches far, it hasn’t quite forced everyone and everything to follow it. When the West collapses, others will simply rise and fill in. The US, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan and Western Europe are all doomed. However there is Eastern Europe, South America, the Middle East, Russia and the rest of Asia.
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