Self-Destructive Nature

[AlmostNiceGuyParticipant 210]

I know this topic has been covered a million times, but I thought I would write my take on it. The “Nice Guy” conundrum is one that we all know of. Nice guys get f~~~ed over, douche-y guys get laid. I think it goes a it deeper than that. While being raised in a particular way does influence how a guy becomes “Nice”, I have a hypothesis about why it is such a way. I looked an example I know all to well, myself. Granted, I changed, and adapted to “survive”, I used to be the “Nice Guy”. Now while It might be slightly biased, I tried to be as objective as I could. When I say “we”, I mean the general populace of “the nice guys”, which I am no longer a part of, yet it gives the argument a much better flow. The “Nice Guy” disorder stems from insecurity, low self-esteem, fear, but also as a reflection as how we would like to be treated by the other gender. “Nice Guys” treat chick like princesses, will bend over backwards just to see them smile, and will do some unbelievable things for them.Insecurity plays a large role, which almost always goes hand in hand with low self-esteem, since we treat the girls in such a nice way because, we think we don’t deserve a better treatment, and that however she reacts; “That’s as good as it’s going to get”. Low self-esteem comes into play due to the fact that we work so hard for them, and even when they don’t reciprocate, we keep doing it. Fear also influences this, from a fear that if we don’t do anything and everything for them, they might leave, and the fear of loneliness takes part. Now for the “equal” treatment. I believe that most “Nice Guys”, do such things for women because of a subconscious desire to be treated the same way. All men want to be kings, to get home have a beer in one hand while getting a bj, but “Nice Guys” have the wrong idea, thinking that by treating a chick in such a way, that she will reciprocate. This has already been proving completely false, and to be the opposite, treating them like s~~~ is what gets you the good treatment. Anyways, this is my view on the matter. Any other reasons as to why “Nice Guys” act this way?

[Anonymous 11]

The biggest mistakes Nice Guys make IMHO, and many other men too, is naively taking whatever a woman says as a face value truth. They can mean many things from a total mocking blow off off to a s~~~ test for you to pass all the way to a blatant white knight noodling expedition (@non-US:Noodling is where these crazy cats physically grab monster catfish with their body parts from various holes w/in murky waters) are classic examples of this behavior. Of course, she has a high probability being an expert manipulator with some sort of hidden agenda where you’ll play a premeditated role so avoid that one too. It’s akin to dealing with a profession car salesman selling you a high chance of your potential destruction. Tread carefully, very carefully.

Many years ago I was out one night serving as wingman for a friend when a wench gave him a fake phone number which happened to be my neighbors. I told his pussy begging ass a few minutes after we left the establishment. The look on his face was priceless.

The red pill and reading out MGTOW war stories will help you though the Nice Guy conundrum. Drive it from your brains.

Woman are that way. We have to learn to deal with it. Treating women like s~~~ is not necessary, man. Being a resolute man is necessary. Also, convincing any white knights you possibly can of the error of their ways will be like introducing termites gynocracy’s natural power base,

Are woman really worth it?

[SMADParticipant 651]

I would say that nice guys act this way also because they feel it’s a “safe” way to be.  By being non threatening and “bowing down” to our female overlords, nice guys feel that they will, in turn, attract “nice women.”  The reality is, even “nice women” have their manipulative streaks (perhaps not malevolent but, it’s still present.)

A mans logic (even nice guys) feel that by GIVING something, we should get something IN RETURN.  Some men’s interpretation of what this “return” is varies between individuals, but anything from a simple “thank you, that was really APPRECIATED” and up counts as a “return”. Nice guys therefore “give” themselves, expecting love, respect etc back.  But, many women will just TAKE what is given, and not really return in or, they return us with “sex” because they feel that’s all we “want” in return.  After all, we are man machines that *only* want sex to function.  We don’t have our own emotional needs like respect, feeling appreciated or valued, etc?  Oh wait?  What’s that she says?  Men actually have MORE COMPLEXITY to them then base urges?  Well touch my t~~~ and bend me over.

As MGTOWs, we can see this bollocks for what is really is – when WE GIVE to women, we don’t actually get ANYTHING of significance back (unless you truly have found a unicorn) – therefore we cannot be so easily manipulated by fluttering eyes and pushed up t~~~.  Nice guys, however, are easy pray to such things.  Or, on the other side of the coin, when we GIVE, it is because WE WANT TO, not because we feel OBLIGED to.

That’s my thoughts, at least 🙂

 

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

I always felt like I was a “nice guy”. I felt like this because I consider myself a genuine person. I don’t like to or have the energy to play games. I like to be myself. I don’t like to be a liar or an actor. I like to be me.

Unfortunately, being me, simply does not work. I refuse to change who I am though. I refuse to be someone I am not. It’s not how I feel comfortable operating. If that means no women for me, well then so be it.

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

I like to be me too.

But it’s not really assholes they want, it’s just that confidence in a man comes across as self importance, hence asshole is the next unavoidable label.

So, become an actor, a good actor, and fake confidence!

Oh, and picture that beautiful thing you are with on a date as your grandmother and treat her like Dick Mc Douche!

How hard did you try to be sexually appealing to your grandmother? You didn’t ‘try’ at all.

So yeah, you are dating grandma!

 

I hate these ‘nice guys’ that give women flowers, a useless gift that screams MANGINA! and desperation. Flowers will get that other guy laid while you stare at a vase of wilted roses. that you wasted money on. So many men get flowers as an act of desperation, it’s face palmable.

 

Next woman I meet, she will wait an extra day for a phone call, I will cancel dates, I will say ‘whatever’ a lot. I will behave like scoring chicks is easy for me and she is just #32763453 and is disposable.

I will make her angry, which will be actually a good ‘bitch level test’ to see If I could cope with her bad attitude. My last 15yr relationship turned into a bitch-a-thon, never again I’ll be with a super bitch!

I will adopt an attitude of ‘I just don’t give a f~~~’. Unless I have f~~~s to give.

I will point out her flaws so that I destroy her self esteem and feels unworthy.

I will escape her presense if the bitch appears.

I will smoke my beer and drink my joints and blast the heaviest metal known to man when she comes over.

 

Hence, I will just be me, but I will not compromise on what ‘I’ want to do, and I won’t care if she cares, I won’t be restricted in life to please a woman.

And I will get laid! And many blow jobs!

 

She’s your grandma in a physical sense!  (better yet, Margaret Thatcher)

You are not trying to impress her, she is old and wrinkly.

If you see her as beautiful, that’s when you start f~~~ing things up and later on that evening wind up wanking off to chaterbate with your handgina. While she is moving on to the next guy who will get laid.

remember that.

 

 

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[MendokusaiParticipant 256]

I guess in a twisted way I was lucky by having my mom run off with another man when I was 8 leaving my father to raise me.

I saw early on that womin were FAR from the lil’ princesses they appear to be,indeed my fathers subsequent wife or my step mom was not as bad-if you consider she had all the matronly qualities of a computer.

My father is a great man but god bless him his taste in womin leaves MUCH to be desired so at 17 I decided to embark on my own path.

I have always been careful in relations~~~s,never sharing the same address and always using protection even when the bitch says she’s on the pill. I never put up with s~~~ either-I’m a frequent flyer-when it hits the fan I’m gone.

You pretty much have to be baggage free to fly Air Steld.

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