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I was destroyed by my ex-c~~~ before discovering MGTOW. Many more details about this can be found in my other posts. The point is that despite me swallowing the red pill, my blue-pill-indoctrinated reptilian brain has been tormenting me endlessly.
All I can think about is how she f~~~ed me over and how she so quickly forgot I existed then acted like the next c~~~ she hopped on was the love of her life. The last week and a half has been a constant cycle of either depression, suicidal thoughts and regretting the mistakes I made, OR seething anger and hatred for her and myself. I can’t even find joy in any of my hobbies. Even when I’m with my friends playing Magic the Gathering, my MGTOW namesake.
I have physical symptoms too. I’ve had stomach pain, loss of appetite, diarrhea and tightening of my throat.
I have been depressed and suicidal for about seven years now. I kept it under control for a couple years until the recent bulls~~~ with that ultimate bitch. I’ve had thoughts of self-harm or worse, so I am going to a therapist.
YES, the therapist is a man. A woman would only focus on MY faults and fixing MYSELF so I could PLEASE OTHER WOMEN. F~~~ that. I want nothing more than to get to a point where I can move past the heartache, AND let go of all the anger and hatred and just never think about it again. I need to find self-worth and happiness from myself, so that this will never happen again.
I am not seeking treatment with medication. I have quit anti-depressants cold turkey twice. When I was taking them they barely had any effect.
I would love to hear if anyone else has gone through therapy for a similar reason and to hear their experiences, or to just hear other opinions on therapy in general. Thank you MGTOW.
I've had to learn lessons the hard way more times than I should. I've been very fortunate to find MGTOW when I did. Swallowing the Red Pill saved my future.
. As i always point out to some antidepressants can have an opposite affect . If you have been suicidal and depressed for 7 years this long what is the reason for this for so long . Dude i will be straight up . You should go to a hospital for help from a mental health proffesional . You could have a undiagnosed illness that hasn’t been detected . If it is something and is treated it could make a great difference in your life for the better . I myself ended up in z mental health unit from a break down and there is no shame you will find from any of the brothers here for that but support . Just 7 years bro tells me there is more to this . Some of the emotions you have described from a break up though are normsl reactions . Just your history worries me for you bro which will mske your current and normal emotions of a break up much worse . With yout best intrests at heart i strongly recommend to go to a hospital . Just out of curiosity have you been diagnosed with anything else besides deppresion bro .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Anonymous43you are going thru what I went thru before I found mgtow.
You are going thru a realization that everything you believed about women is absolutely wrong. not like 3 +3 = 7 wrong, this treatment of women is one of these bedrock ideas that men have that forms the center of their being. We are supposed to be nice to women, women are weak and deserve our protection.
You lost your foundation, and are all out of sorts.
Here’s what I did, your mileage may vary.
Stop taking this personally. You think you were a colossal f~~~ up, and you think your world is wrecked.
The reality is, she did you a big fat f~~~ing favor. She got out of your way by being stupid. Applaud her for her stupidity. You did everything right, but it didn’t matter.You have the chance to do everything you always wanted to do, but she held you back. She was consuming resources, time and energy. your boat anchor is gone. Go forth and be great.
You got used to being held back, and now freedom is a little scary. You think she is going to approve of anything you do from now on? Dude, if she knew she had this much power over you now, after being cut loose, she would laugh at you until she blows a lung.
F~~~ this bitch, and f~~~ your feelings. Pick your chin up. You do not need the external approval of anyone. Look inward for strength. I skipped the therapy, I couldn’t afford the time or the money. Instead I played racquetball…or rather I chased and beat the f~~~ out of the blue ball for 2 hours a night for a year and a half. Screaming, running around, breaking racquets, that was my therapy. I was too tired to be mad. It was this site that gave me the answers I was not able to find on my own.
Your heartache you feel…that would be the same feeling you get from losing an investment of time, money and energy. The bitch is a zero rate of return, and you are angry. On the other hand, you learned an invaluable lesson about women. Losing a woman is a big loss, like working on a hotrod in the garage, and while you were putting on pinstripes, some bastard stole it.
Amigo, all women are like this. There are 22000 people checked in here. We all have the same story. We all swallowed the red pill and we all have that nasty taste in out mouths. That is to remind you AWALT. Hang in there buddy. This is a disorienting time, but if you think logically about this you will realize that the c~~~ was not your c~~~, it was just your turn. Let some other f~~~er take care of her. I highly doubt she was perfect. Trust me, you will be better off without her.
Therapy. The trouble with therapy is you can not determine when you can stop therapy. The guy you write the checks to will figure that out. lol. Do you see the inherent problem there? Ask the therapist if he understands hypergamy, Briffault’s law, and solipsism.
Crash course… Hypergamy: the need for women to seek a better deal, bigger dick, more resources, bigger, better more money. Briffault…woman decides if she is having relations with you, past performance means nothing, future promises mean nothing. It is literally what have you done for me lately? Solipsism: this is a killer. She is unable to recognize you as a real person. In her mind she is the only creature who exists . You and your feelings mean nothing…not recognized for thoughts. This is why she went from you to Chad Thunderc~~~ without a second thought. There wasn’t a second thought.
Research these things, and you will come to understand women. Unfortunately, you will never date another woman ever again. Your eyes have been opened. Women are not sugar and spice and everything nice. They are vile parasites always looking for better resources. Your good manners and nice guy persona do nothing for women. It tells women that you are weak and easy to use. Women are a walking meatholes with blobs of fat all over. Women are interchangeable. Women are useful for sex and making children only. Yes, they all have a price.
Again, she did you a favor. Do not contact her, do not resent her, just understand this is how all women operate. You will have your revenge, later. The Wall is waiting. The wall owns every woman around age 30-35. Your exc~~~ has to find the best resources possible before the wall makes her beauty fade, gray hair, wrinkles, saggy body, damaged eggs, getting fat. You have the ability to gain wealth while her sexual market value is falling. She will be stuck with some Chad who doesn’t think he can do any better, or he is so weak that he can’t leave her. Either way, karma is gonna f~~~ her hard. lol
It is ok to laugh at this…she won’t be.Come back and talk to us. Ask us questions. We will answer you. Good luck Amigo.
Blade and May 7 give good advice ^^^^^^^
If you truly are suicidal (by that I mean you truly are thinking about killing yourself, and not just a general feeling of kind of wishing you would die etc.) You need to get some help. You don’t have to struggle through that alone.
I am more like you when it comes to breakups. They were always harder on me than they should be. I guess I am broken in that regard, and all the more reason to be MGTOW.
The best I can tell you is to just allow yourself a small time to go through and unpack those feeling of being wronged etc, and then let it go. The price of letting it go is you never speak to her again. That way you don’t have to worry about hanging onto those feeling to guard against falling for her again if she comes back to you. That was always my excuse to hang on to that s~~~: “I need to remember so I can confront her when she comes back! (and they do often come back – they love recycling their victims.)
She doesn’t deserve space in your head, and if memories of her pop in chase them away. “No, you don’t deserve to be remembered!” etc.
Good luck bro!
Blade – I also have social anxiety and I am introverted to an unhealthy extent. I literally cannot make friends. I have a few and I cannot f~~~ that up.
May 7 2020- I DID lose my foundation. I had blue pill fever and this was the only bitch I ever loved. I idolized her, and ignored a s~~~load of red flags.
Pedal, run, row- She HAS been coming back. The slut is blocked now, and all digital traces of her are gone. She wanted to keep me around to cry to when she gets treated like the cum dumpster she is. She ALREADY cried to me because she felt used for sex. Then two days later this douche is the love of her life. He’s going to throw her away sooner or later and she won’t be able to cry to me. When she hits The Wall no one will even want to use her for sex, then her life is completely over. That’s something that will help me sleep at night.
I was depressed before the c~~~ because I couldn’t make social connections, especially with women. That was my blue pill fever.
I was depressed WITH the c~~~ because she treated me like s~~~ and cheated on me, while telling me she loved me. My blue pill reptilian brain kept loving her and it got worse each time we were able to visit each other.
I’m depressed AFTER the c~~~ because like the true cuck I was, I stayed “friends” and found out how easily she could throw away a loving man and become obsessed with a Chad, and how cold and apatetic of a bitch the woman I devoted five years of my life to really was.
“I’m really good friends with my ex.” Her ex is another woman, and she’s not interested in women anymore. She’s just interested in any c~~~ in her immediate area.
I've had to learn lessons the hard way more times than I should. I've been very fortunate to find MGTOW when I did. Swallowing the Red Pill saved my future.
You need to stop all contact with her and move forward.
You also need to give someone a break – YOURSELF.
Stop calling yourself a cuck and beating yourself up. IF you were a f~~~ing cuck you wouldn’t be here, you would be eating some other dudes cum out of her pussy. (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little!)
Start working on yourself. start eating right, and exercising. Formulate some goals for yourself, both short term and long term, and work towards them. Learn new thing, try new things. Go for walks out in the sun. Get a dog and treat it well.
Begin to enjoy your own company.
Enjoy your freedom, and stop focusing on her and how she treated you. She doesn’t deserve the space in your life and head that you ARE GIVING her.
This cung has taken advantage of you but it sounds like she has problems to . But ok f~~~ her and lets concentrate on you bro . All normal emotions that your fealing from this . Everyone is different though on how it effects them and what you have said about yourself it is going to effect a person with your prior condition much worse . Just 7 years dude living like this is not nice for you . Therapist and other private services might not see a deeper underlying issue IF there is a medical one . Just saying bro if it is something medical it could really change your life if treated . When i was in hospital from breaking down i seen some people come in there really f~~~ed up and once treated were totally different . Some people in there were proffesional people to . Mental health can affect anyone . Jim carrey is bi polar dude . Just feal for ya man .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Ohh for f~~~ sake!!!!!
Stay the f~~~ away from shrinks, therapy and looney drugs!!!
Stop listening to depressing goth, emo music!
Listen to Beethoven and uplifting classical music.
Get out in the sunshine.
Pump some iron.
Eat a fat, bloody steak.
Then smoke a cigar.Get man-hobbies.
Get a good job.
Make money.Stop whining and running to a shrink like a f~~~ing woman because feelzzz.
Monk
Ohh for f~~~ sake!!!!!
Stay the f~~~ away from shrinks, therapy and looney drugs!!!
Stop listening to depressing goth, emo music!
Listen to Beethoven and uplifting classical music.
Get out in the sunshine.
Pump some iron.
Eat a fat, bloody steak.
Then smoke a cigar.Get man-hobbies.
Get a good job.
Make money.Stop whining and running to a shrink like a f~~~ing woman because feelzzz.
Meister, That was harsh Man.
But, I think sometimes it needs to be said.
To wallow in self pity can last for years, Decades.
I know as I was just the same. One day I woke up and realised, She never loved me, She used Me, And She Doesn’t give a s~~~ about me. Why am I moping around over her when I won’t cross her mind at all unless she thinks she can use me again.
It took 20 years for me to wake up. If MGTOW was around then it would have been a lot sooner.
It's Time to get Wise
. As i always point out to some antidepressants can have an opposite affect . If you have been suicidal and depressed for 7 years this long what is the reason for this for so long . Dude i will be straight up . You should go to a hospital for help from a mental health proffesional . You could have a undiagnosed illness that hasn’t been detected . If it is something and is treated it could make a great difference in your life for the better . I myself ended up in z mental health unit from a break down and there is no shame you will find from any of the brothers here for that but support . Just 7 years bro tells me there is more to this . Some of the emotions you have described from a break up though are normsl reactions . Just your history worries me for you bro which will mske your current and normal emotions of a break up much worse . With yout best intrests at heart i strongly recommend to go to a hospital . Just out of curiosity have you been diagnosed with anything else besides deppresion bro .
I didn’t read it all. I understood without having to. I understand having a girlfriend put me first for years believing I’m the most amazing thing they’ve ever known. Only to find someone else and act like you were never anything to them. They were the only thing that made my life worth existing as I became paralyzed and my grandparents and mom died. It was such a f~~~ed up learning experience to find out you’re lucky if your blood cares about you because nobody else does. And even some of your blood family sucks. You are born with nothing and die with nothing. My mother’s love died 3 years ago. I was lucky to have it. I’m pretty much unloved now.
As Keymaster says (excuse me for not getting the quote 100% correct), once chance per woman per lifetime. Once a woman blows her chance with you…
Again, she did you a favor. Do not contact her,…
You need to stop all contact with her and move forward.
Any bitch who treated you like s~~~ then leaves you DID DO YOU A FAVOR but is too stupid to know it, and if you are blue pill and still trying to get over the girl, then you are too stupid to know it also.
Cut all ties and never ever ever ever ever never ever ever never ever never ever f~~~ing communicate with the whore again. This is possibly the simplest thing one can do to get over a slut, but not emphasized enough I think.
MTGMGTOW, my advice, stop playing board/card games and start doing a sport that takes all of you to participate in. Try a martial art, it will keep you fit, build your mind and body, require all your mind in the moment (so you don’t get the s~~~ beat out of you and you don’t have that slag in the back of your mind) and make you too tired to think about the loser you had for a girlfriend. Grappling arts with live training rule in my opinion.
You will forget about the girl, that’s no problem. Be patient and keep your head up and think positive about yourself (this must become a habit). We have all made mistakes in life and by having women involved in them, you can get through this and will, don’t be worried about it all, be patient with your progress and look forward.
And may I just add to the above…
A chad thinks with his dick, a mangina with his heart and a Man with his head.
This is a big problem for a lot of men and many will never admit to it for fear of losing face. I am not sure about therapy or depression meds, at least for me there was not much help there. My thoughts are that the depression med market is geared towards a more organic depression rather than situational depression. Situational depression for me has always been at the hands of a female. You have to change the situation you are in. Read, walk, run, garden, anything you are interested in even if you have to force yourself. Eat every day and drink as much water as you can. Eat well too. McD’s diet will get you deeper and deeper in that black hole. As will alcohol. The common sense things seem to both be harder to do and more effective long term. I pile firewood and run a wood-splitter until I am exhausted. Same with my gardens, it all feels a bit obsessive at times but f~~~ it. 7 years for me and 7 years ago I could be found moving already stacked wood from one location to another to make myself do something. It was the worst time in my life easily hands down. That she continues to pick my “friends” off for f~~~ buddies doesn’t help but time definitely does there. Expect her to have no respect for you and expect all your friends to go right along with it. It just is. Something that happens every time is just fact. Facts also don’t care about your feelings. Learn to live with being numb until something feels good. I play music frequently but I remember years where I did not. The apathy one can develop after a betrayal of this nature can be deadly. I still have it. I force myself to do s~~~ all day long. I am obsessively designing a solar system right now. Happiness is elusive and a bit over rated as well. Content is where I have focused. Most of the people who taunt you with their happiness are not at all happy. It sounds like no contact with her is going to be in your best interest. Expect the smirk. They all have to do that. Maintain personal integrity. Her promiscuous behavior does not equate to maturity no matter what all females believe. The truth will catch up to her and you have no real need to watch it. Do your thing time will do it’s to her.
. As i always point out to some antidepressants can have an opposite affect . If you have been suicidal and depressed for 7 years this long what is the reason for this for so long . Dude i will be straight up . You should go to a hospital for help from a mental health proffesional . You could have a undiagnosed illness that hasn’t been detected . If it is something and is treated it could make a great difference in your life for the better . I myself ended up in z mental health unit from a break down and there is no shame you will find from any of the brothers here for that but support . Just 7 years bro tells me there is more to this . Some of the emotions you have described from a break up though are normsl reactions . Just your history worries me for you bro which will mske your current and normal emotions of a break up much worse . With yout best intrests at heart i strongly recommend to go to a hospital . Just out of curiosity have you been diagnosed with anything else besides deppresion bro .
I didn’t read it all. I understood without having to. I understand having a girlfriend put me first for years believing I’m the most amazing thing they’ve ever known. Only to find someone else and act like you were never anything to them. They were the only thing that made my life worth existing as I became paralyzed and my grandparents and mom died. It was such a f~~~ed up learning experience to find out you’re lucky if your blood cares about you because nobody else does. And even some of your blood family sucks. You are born with nothing and die with nothing. My mother’s love died 3 years ago. I was lucky to have it. I’m pretty much unloved now.
bro my heart goes out to you . Long story short my mum died when i was ten and my father turned to drink . My mother died very slowly from cancer . I then was lucky to see my father 3 days a week because he went crazy sleeping with different woman . I vertually brought myself up . My siblings been older than me and living out of home with there only intrest of sucking my father dry of cash . I was molested at 5 and the perpatrator when finished had a knife and now older realise he was thinking of killing me . I could go on from there with some things but i can’t . But i kept my mothers morals for life which served me well with my daughter’s . You have your mothers morals by caring for your dad and brother as i read on other thread . When people pass we look to fill that love void but not in the wrong reasons due to the love of say your mum .
I am thankful in a strange way for having hardships kn my life because it has made me who i am today . If i grew up with a silver spoon up my arse i would of been a real prick .
HUMOR IS GOOD MEDICINE TO .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Ohh for f~~~ sake!!!!!
Stay the f~~~ away from shrinks, therapy and looney drugs!!!
Stop listening to depressing goth, emo music!
Listen to Beethoven and uplifting classical music.
Get out in the sunshine.
Pump some iron.
Eat a fat, bloody steak.
Then smoke a cigar.Get man-hobbies.
Get a good job.
Make money.Stop whining and running to a shrink like a f~~~ing woman because feelzzz.
Miester you arsehole
dude i like the way you roll . But this bro i think needs a different aproach Miester
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Two books:
F*ck Feelings, and, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck.
Read them. It will give you perspective and some help in clearing your head so you can set a new direction in life: up.
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
Ohh for f~~~ sake!!!!!
Stay the f~~~ away from shrinks, therapy and looney drugs!!!
Stop listening to depressing goth, emo music!
Listen to Beethoven and uplifting classical music.
Get out in the sunshine.
Pump some iron.
Eat a fat, bloody steak.
Then smoke a cigar.Get man-hobbies.
Get a good job.
Make money.Stop whining and running to a shrink like a f~~~ing woman because feelzzz.
Miester you arsehole
dude i like the way you roll . But this bro i think needs a different aproach Miester
He needs somebody to tell him the truth!
His feelzz are imaginary.
Going to a shrink is inexcusable!!!
Taking looney meds is downright insane.Shrinks are trained manginas who are there to manipulate you into conforming.
I’ve had oneitis/heartache twice in my life.
It’s unpleasant but we all get over it.The way you get over it is by not thinking about the female, fresh air, exercise, strong food and worthwile uplifting activities.
It’s as simple as that.
Monk
Most, if not all of us have been in this same situation… throwing everything we had at a woman in the hopes that she would turn out to be THE ONE.
Only to have her smash us to pieces and do a dance on the remains.
The best advice I can give you is:
1) Accept that it’s done and that it could not possibly have gone any other way and that it’s now time for you to move on.
2) Avoid medications, boozing, weed or anything of the sort. Your objective here is to get your body and mind into as pure a state as possible.
3) Destroy any reference to her in your life and put a lot of time and space between the two of you. This includes deliberately willing yourself to stop talking about and dwelling on the topic. Don’t make a big deal of the process… no epic burning man s~~~… just delete the pictures, throw away the items, stop going to the places… and change her contact info to UNKNOWN and block it so that if she rings or texts, you never even have to see it.
4) Do not attempt to fill in the hole she left with something else. Instead, just go back to doing the things that you enjoyed before you knew her and let your attentions find their own new outlets. Video games, hobbies, travel, new projects and challenges… do things that make you feel happy and fulfilled.
If you are incapable of doing any or all of these things, you may want to seek professional assistance with dealing with attachment. You mentioned social anxiety… it’s my believe that this largely comes from abandonment issues and fear of loss… in any case, seek professional guidance and focus on the root issues, not the superficial manifestations. You are NOT going to pay a psychologist to hear you talk about your ex for the next five years, you’re going to do three sessions with someone to get at the root of your issue and set up a process for working through it.
Good luck, buddy. It’s hard. Took me three years to evict a woman from my mind… but in the end you’ll be a better man for having done it.
Stay the f~~~ away from shrinks, therapy and looney drugs!!!
This is called tough love. Meister is completely correct. NO ONE in the medical industry is on your side. If you feel you’ll kill yourself otherwise, then go ahead and talk to these quacks and take their pills, but my recommendation would be to avoid them altogether.
Listen to Beethoven and uplifting classical music.
This is the best advice I’ve seen here so far. Music has an unbelievably powerful impact on your emotional state. If you’re interested in learning about this, a simple Google search will bring up hundreds of scientific studies and explanations for why this is the case. Choose your music wisely! Most modern music will make you feel worse. Women artists write about how evil men are, and men artists write about how amazing women are. That’s not the s~~~ you should be listening to! You can’t go wrong with Classical, Romantic, and Baroque (all of which are nowadays typically grouped under the category of “classical”), and if you must listen to something modern, I recommend Sabaton (literally any of their songs, though I especially recommend “Lion from the North” and “Winged Hussars”). Your b~~~~ will get bigger just listening to them and it will make you feel awesome.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Immersing yourself in art that celebrates truth, beauty, freedom and love (agape love, not eros) is definitely a good idea. Art and culture have become ugly because society wants to wallow in despair. You don’t have to wallow with them.
I might add considering pursuing the science and philosophy of human behavior in order to develop greater understanding and to take control over yourself and your motivations. Although there are many paths, I’m thinking specifically about the power of Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) in changing your relationship with your mind and body.
Put simply, it’s the idea that the mind and body work in concert. When you are down and depressed, for example, your body carriage and posture reflect that mental state, versus when you’re elated and triumphant. NLP suggests (among other things) that you can use that correlation in the reverse… that by deliberately adopting a triumphant body posture (head high, chin out, shoulders back, eyes focused) you can create the mental state that goes with that posture.
In other words, confidence and stability are not just mental states but physical ones as well.
Research your own techniques… borrow bits from this and that, use what works for you, ditch the rest… and make it a priority to understand yourself, your mind and your body. Self knowledge and awareness is, after all, the root of all positive action.
All i am saying 7 years of this ain’t got nothing to do with woman . I just feal the bro might have an undiagnosed medical problem . Yes i hate drugs and the medical community very much . I once knew a guy when i was younger that was a paranoid schizophrenic . So you can’t tell people like that for example not to take meds .this is the net and none of us are pro medical people . But suicide depression and other things the op has said says to me there is more to this .
All cool miester i got your angle of where you are comming from . 7 years i see there is more to this for our bro
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