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This is why the marriage rate is down, fellas.
I guess we better up our game to meet their “needs”, huh?I read that article last night. They don’t dare say that men are walking away. We all know that’s the case. They would NEVER hint that the quality of women could be part of the problem. It’s just the usual male bashing article. To think that I once took an article like that seriously. Damn it’s nice being MGTOW.
“Marriage is still based on love, but it also is fundamentally an economic transaction. Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, especially as young women’s educational levels on average now exceed their male suitors.”
FUNDAMENTALLY AN ECONOMIC TRANSACTION. No truer words have ever been spoken. Money for sex, the oldest profession.
Oh yeah, and pushing men out of college and feminizing education for the past 40 years so women in general are now more educated than men. How’s that working out for ya? I’m all for equality, but equality means equality. It means that now it is just as acceptable for a woman to be the bread winner while the guy stays at home. Which should be the desired outcome for a woman right? Because, after all, being a stay-at-home spouse is the toughest job in the world. If that were true then women would be lining up to marry a man of lower economic status and just have him stay at home while breezes off to “work” every day.
So are women not marrying men because they don’t make enough money, or did men stop feeling the need to make as much money once they decided that today’s woman isn’t worth marrying?
Order the good wine
“Researchers found that these estimated potential “dream” husbands had an average income about 58% higher than the actual unmarried men currently available to unmarried women.”
Keep dreaming… shortly after my divorce, before I’d fully accepted the idea that AWALT, I did date a little. One woman asked me what I do for a living. I didn’t like the line of questioning, but I did answer truthfully because it’s such a common question. What did she ask in her very next sentence? “How much do you make”. This time, I did NOT answer the question. I just said, “I’m not rich and I’m not poor either”. Later on, she asked the SAME question. If she had been more clever, she could have looked up industry averages for my profession and that would have given her at least an approximate range. Oh, yeah — she also asked whether I rent or own my place. Un-frickin-believable.
I wonder how many professors and graduate students it took to find out that hyperglycemia exists. Self identified “INTELLECTUALS” in the academic world can be so thick.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
If I’m economically attractive, WELL WHY WOULD I WANT TO CHANGE THAT? No worries. No Problems. And I get to do whatever I want.
So what is a women going to bring me that 20 others will not?
You know how I handle the “What do you do?” question. “Women Mainly”…. You can also answer with how much you can Bench press.
It’s kind of sad, I USE to love just taking out women for the fun of it. Not anymore. I hate to say this, but I don’t really find all that many women that are worth the risk of a conversation. Those kinds of women are usually very MARRIED. OR, happen to be women in Comfortable shoes. I have met the odd passing tranny that happens to be a JOY to talk to..
Thing is, back in the day, I just LOVED going out. Places were fun. Good times. I just think they all got older. Sad, I really wanted to open a place that was just a JOY to be at. A place that just felt like those wonderful Country home magazines.

I don’t know, I really liked entertaining. I was hoping to have something like this by now. Problem is. I don’t want to share any of the risk of today’s people. It’s sad, but women are just not very Sophisticated anymore. I’ll admit it, I love doing things that women enjoy. But as I found out. Women are not there to Enjoy or relax.
You don’t find very many people that are into design. In fact, I have yet to meet a Talented women artist that I can truly appreciate. It’s like all the good things that I valued with women simply are just masks.
So I ask you, why bother with their demands, when all they do is Demand more? I would rather go see a women play a concert. Or do something she really liked to do. Lindsey Stirling comes to mind. But that’s like the 1% of women.
If you think about how men compare to women, well… What do women offer you? They are only pleasant in single servings for most of them. You are better just batting a new one every other date. And since most women are already with the mind set of simply a lifestyle and not you? Hmm..
I’ll take SINGLE for $1000 Alex.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
You know how I handle the “What do you do?” question. “Women Mainly”…. You can also answer with how much you can Bench press.
lol When I first read this I thought you said, “You can also answer with ‘how much can you Bench press?'” and that’s actually the perfect answer!
If I’m economically attractive, WELL WHY WOULD I WANT TO CHANGE THAT? No worries. No Problems. And I get to do whatever I want.
So what is a women going to bring me that 20 others will not?
You know how I handle the “What do you do?” question. “Women Mainly”…. You can also answer with how much you can Bench press.
It’s kind of sad, I USE to love just taking out women for the fun of it. Not anymore. I hate to say this, but I don’t really find all that many women that are worth the risk of a conversation. Those kinds of women are usually very MARRIED. OR, happen to be women in Comfortable shoes. I have met the odd passing tranny that happens to be a JOY to talk to..
Thing is, back in the day, I just LOVED going out. Places were fun. Good times. I just think they all got older. Sad, I really wanted to open a place that was just a JOY to be at. A place that just felt like those wonderful Country home magazines.
I don’t know, I really liked entertaining. I was hoping to have something like this by now. Problem is. I don’t want to share any of the risk of today’s people. It’s sad, but women are just not very Sophisticated anymore. I’ll admit it, I love doing things that women enjoy. But as I found out. Women are not there to Enjoy or relax.
You don’t find very many people that are into design. In fact, I have yet to meet a Talented women artist that I can truly appreciate. It’s like all the good things that I valued with women simply are just masks.
So I ask you, why bother with their demands, when all they do is Demand more? I would rather go see a women play a concert. Or do something she really liked to do. Lindsey Stirling comes to mind. But that’s like the 1% of women.
If you think about how men compare to women, well… What do women offer you? They are only pleasant in single servings for most of them. You are better just batting a new one every other date. And since most women are already with the mind set of simply a lifestyle and not you? Hmm..
I’ll take SINGLE for $1000 Alex.Its because modern life is way too convenient and easy for women. Microwave everything, it enables the i want it NOW! crybullies, people are replaceable and disposable, someone’s inconvenient, dump em, suck em out of the body, etc. If its a guy you get to s~~~ talk and blame him until the next wallet comes by.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
“How much do you make”.
Any question like this is a s~~~ test…
How much do you make?
What do you do?
Where do you live?
What car do you drive?Flip it on her and ask:
How much did the last guy you slept with make?
What did the last guy you slept with do?
Where did the last guy you slept with live?
What kind of car did the last guy you slept with drive?Synopsis of article: Men need to make more money to give to their precious cupcakes.
Phucking absurd women’s expectations. And yes, if you have done any dating of middle-aged divorcees, how much you make will come up quickly and often.
Exhibit A: 34 year-old single mom from work with two kids from two different daddies has been riding the dating/cawk carousel the past two years. She finally found a blue-pilled, twice-divorced cuck that makes very good money. He is a little short, 10 years older and not much of a looker, but she talks about the multiple houses he owns, his successful business, and that he is looking at buying them a $750,000+ home (in this state that is a very nice house).
She freely admits that she has pu$$y-whipped him, and that he even gave her his debit card PIN number.She looks good now because she has kept herself thin and in good shape and has nice long hair, but she wears tons of makeup and is only 5 years from the wall. I have worked with her long enough to know there is a bitch lurking underneath her ‘charm’ and have heard stories about her recent parade of cawks.
Exhibit B: My ex-girlfriend kept telling me EVERYONE she knew made $250-300,000 a year. She couldn’t figure out why I didn’t get a job that made that much too. One time she told me that if she had a degree (her words: “a stupid piece of paper”) she would be making that much. But alas, she dropped out of college after one semester because girls just want to have fun.
I make low six figures, but she told me that “this is the poorest I have ever been”. Her monthly contribution to the household: $100 (cellphone bill and half of Amazon Prime membership). She works part time and only makes around $20,000/year — but all hers to spend! Her list of things she wanted and wants to do was endless and $$$$ (most recently she had been demanding a new car in the $40-60,000 range). She offered her wrinkly, middle-aged saggy b00bs, dried up pu$$y, and occasional BJ (“don’t come in my mouth!”) and I was supposed to think it was the golden goose.
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."I wonder how many professors and graduate students it took to find out that hyperglycemia exists. Self identified “INTELLECTUALS” in the academic world can be so thick.
Intelligence and monkey-clever are not the same thing. Most academics are the latter.
I saw a similar article on Yahoo I was reading at work last night, although I can’t find it now to post the link here. The article itself didn’t really containing anything worth repeating, but the comments, as expected, were amazing. Probably 95% of the commenters were pretty damn red pill. Just to list off some of the repeating themes…
1. Older men who got divorced raped or stuck in a miserable marriage because divorce rape is the only other option saying “Don’t do it not worth it!”
2. Younger guys saying “I’m not risking divorce rape, I saw what happened to so many of those older dudes!”
3. Chad’s saying “Why would I get married when I get so much pussy playing the field?”
4. More traditional guys saying “I can’t find one that hasn’t been overly promiscuous or is already a single mom and/or swimming in debt.”There were even guys posting “I’m economical viable and can’t find an economically viable female, so much for equality,” and even just “MGTOW!”
The handful of posters who were not posting things like that were generally one of of 2 types. You had your “I’ve been married for xx years, marriage is great” types, which sure maybe its not bad until she decides its time to move on, treats you like garbage, and you get wrecked in divorce and then you realize why other guys are refusing to get married, and females resorting to name calling and shaming.
The big take away for me though is that here we have this article saying declining marriage rates are due to lack of economically viable men yet when you get commentary straight from the horses mouth by reading the comments on a relatively anonymous board, that might have been like 1% of what men had to say. There was a lot more “the juice is not worth the squeeze” type commentary than “I wish I made more and golden vagina was interested in making me her workhorse.”
The other thing is with any kind of social research, you are going to have bias, either on behalf of the researchers and their methods, or bias on behalf of respondents for various reasons. I don’t now the exact methods of the research here so I really couldn’t offer any critique in that regard, but one thing I do know for certain is people will lie in research like this because publicly saying “I’m not getting married because Millennial women are a bunch of broke sluts” is a losing proposition for any man. Unless your banking money off a youtube channel for saying that kind of stuff there is no gain for you, only pain and loss. If I was part of this study and it was any manner other than 100% anonymous my first response would be “I don’t want to participate,” and my second if I did participate(hey maybe they were giving away free pizza or something for a 2 minute interview) would be “I’m still looking for the right one.” I don’t care about their “research,” and regardless of what results they come up with I know what my reasons for not getting married are, and I know I’m not alone in those beliefs.
This is what we have already know, but the feminists scream “sexism” when it is pointed out.
Women always reach upwards for a mate. The problem is that when a woman makes to the top of the mountain, she is still reaching up for a mate and she is only grasping air.
You know how I handle the “What do you do?” question. “Women Mainly”…. You can also answer with how much you can Bench press.
Thatsa good one!
I used to ask ,(if they hit me with one of “those” questions), what is your bust size? Spit? or swallow?
The disgusted look on their faces was priceless !!
Then I would tell them if they could be so provacative to ask my job or income level as first question; I had the right to ask what I said.Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)
Far be it from me to post a Rush Limbaugh link, but he tears into this topic today (9/6/19) at about 43 minutes in. It’s delicious! There was a time when I hated Limbaugh. Now I make sure to listen to him every day!
http://www.conservativestream.com/podcasts/the-rush-limbaugh-showFunny how we and things in general change.
Everything is temporary and ever-evolving !
“Marriage is still based on love, but it also is fundamentally an economic transaction. Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, especially as young women’s educational levels on average now exceed their male suitors.”
FUNDAMENTALLY AN ECONOMIC TRANSACTION. No truer words have ever been spoken. Money for sex, the oldest profession.
Oh yeah, and pushing men out of college and feminizing education for the past 40 years so women in general are now more educated than men. How’s that working out for ya? I’m all for equality, but equality means equality. It means that now it is just as acceptable for a woman to be the bread winner while the guy stays at home. Which should be the desired outcome for a woman right? Because, after all, being a stay-at-home spouse is the toughest job in the world. If that were true then women would be lining up to marry a man of lower economic status and just have him stay at home while breezes off to “work” every day.
So are women not marrying men because they don’t make enough money, or did men stop feeling the need to make as much money once they decided that today’s woman isn’t worth marrying?They are admitting that marriage is an economic transaction, and that they see this transation as a problem if the man makes less/puts in less than they do.
And they then at the same time shame men who won’t enter into marriage. Incredible amount of gall.
Hypocrites to the nth degree, women.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Far be it from me to post a Rush Limbaugh link, but he tears into this topic today (9/6/19) at about 43 minutes in. It’s delicious! There was a time when I hated Limbaugh. Now I make sure to listen to him every day!http://www.conservativestream.com/podcasts/the-rush-limbaugh-show
Limbaugh is a tradcuck tradcon who has been divorced at least twice, maried at least 3 times. Was careful enough not to have any kids, but he is not red pilled. Hes a white knight nawalt believer. I still like him as a conservative.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
I wish there were hundreds of articles like this published every day so more guys would see the writing on the wall.
The comments to this, and other articles that point out the failures of men are almost always heavily red-pilled, when comments are allowed.
Can you guess why comments after articles are becoming more rare?(“don’t come in my mouth!”)
Back in the day, the thing I will always remember is at a gas station. Where,at the time the love of my life shouted out that I taste like: “Taco Bell cumm…”
Man. Those were the days! 🙂 And as Chris Rock as said: “They still make you?” LOL!.
The stupid truth? Women & society are simply not compatible with relationships anymore.
Can you guess why comments after articles are becoming more rare?
This was even mentioned when DDJ did his podcast with that one women. I forgot her name, but she was doing the men’s march a while back. Thing is, she also mentioned the comments. Men are done playing nice. Here is their truth. Take it or leave it. In fact, one thing that was a REAL blow back to conservatives was the sad truth about Marriages & Families breaking up today.
You don’t really see it out in the open, but all this hate towards men is made to destabilize the family period. In fact, there is almost nothing out there that keeps people together anymore. All these hidden messages in movies and media is all made to break people apart.
And the one person that consumes the most media is usually women. When men point this out, women scream sexisim.
Pretty soon, no one will hear their screams. The fact they are attacking movies like the New Joker film tells you just what they don’t want men to know. There is no reason to pander to Society anymore. That’s why places like the U.K. and the E.U. are so up in arms about men speaking their minds.
The truth is a little to much to handle.
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