Seeking advice on online storage.

[JjParticipant 178]

I recently purchased a subscription to dropbox.com and it turned out to be just a file sharing system. I have 1tb of storage that needs full back up. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you

[– Deleted on Request –Spectator 936]

I don’t trust on-line storage services.

 

Storage media are quite cheap and reliable nowadays.  You might be better off getting an external hard drive solely for back-up.

 

[JjParticipant 178]

– Deleted on Request – wrote:

I don’t trust on-line storage services. Storage media are quite cheap and reliable nowadays. You might be better off getting an external hard drive solely for back-up.

Yes I have a 1tb external hard drive, I’d like a second online back up for various reasons. Ty for the advice though

[RennieParticipant]

I do not advise using cloud storage, there’s just too many problems with the concept.

You have to worry about hackers, copyright nazi’s, government intrusion and catastrophic system failures. All of which have occurred.

Keep your data local.

[– Deleted on Request –Spectator 936]

Rennie:

 

When I first learned programming over 40 years ago, the computer system at my alma mater had everything centralized, including data storage.  Now we have the “cloud” which, frankly, is a step backwards.  I’m sure the main reason it’s being pushed onto people is to provide an easy means by which certain parties can snoop on whatever one has stored.

 

[JjParticipant 178]

F~~~ it; I’m going to take the $ I was going to use on a year subscription and purchase another external 1tb harddrive. Going to subscribe to 2 separate free cloud storage and put some of my media files onto them for entertainment. Thank you for the advice.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hi JJ… if you’re just looking for a backup don’t go online.

Buy a pocket drive. They don’t even require power chords and run off the UBS peripheral.

Here are some options:

https://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10036

… but unless you NEED to backup something online (or share it publicly), don’t bother with cloud services or dropbox …. and just use local storage. We use dropbox too, but just to send someone a big Photoshop document or something.

Otherwise, if you DO need online storage there is a way to convert GOOGLE into online storage and it’s FREE. Look into that “Google Drive”. concept. I once needed a LARGE bunch of space online and used the available storage at GMAIL. Here is how something like that is done:

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/2-ways-to-turn-gmail-into-online-storage/

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[JjParticipant 178]

Keymaster wrote:

Hi JJ… if you’re just looking for a backup don’t go online. Buy a pocket drive. They don’t even require power chords and run off the UBS peripheral. Here are some options: https://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10036 … but unless you NEED to backup something online (or share it publicly), don’t bother with cloud services or dropbox …. and just use local storage. We use dropbox too, but just to send someone a big Photoshop document or something.

Thank u for the link, these products look better than the ones on amazon I was looking at. Other than my Mandolin as far as importance, my data cannot be replaced if lost. Done deal ty

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I have been using LACIE since 1999. And they are a nice design. A little pricey – compared to others – but when it comes to backup, spare no expense. I always ask myself “if I lost this work, would I f~~~ing kill myself”? That’s why I have 2 of them.

This one came out only days ago:

https://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?id=10646

But portability is not as important to me as safety. So I have 2 of these in case one dies:

https://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?id=10613

Instead of a birthday / Christmas gift, I ask Santa for more storage.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Jj wrote:

I recently purchased a subscription to dropbox.com

When did dropbox stop being free?

There are only two advantages to cloud storage:   The first is it’s off site.  This protects your data in case of catastrophe like fire and flood.  The fire that ruins your hard drive will ruin the external drive on the shelf above it.  However there are other ways of doing off site storage that don’t require putting your data at the mercy of people you don’t know.

The second advantage is it’s open access.  This is great if the data needs to be shared to many people in a widely distributed project team, but less than worthless if you want to keep the data private to just yourself.

If you don’t need both of those things there’s no good reason to use cloud storage, and it becomes just another way for you to give money to your internet connection provider.

My personal recommendation for data security is simply keeping a backup external drive in a fire and water proof safe.  If you’re self employed you can write off the cost of both the drive and the safe.

[JjParticipant 178]

sidecar wrote:

Jj wrote:

I recently purchased a subscription to dropbox.com

When did dropbox stop being free? There are only two advantages to cloud storage: The first is it’s off site. This protects your data in case of catastrophe like fire and flood. The fire that ruins your hard drive will ruin the external drive on the shelf above it. However there are other ways of doing off site storage that don’t require putting your data at the mercy of people you don’t know. The second advantage is it’s open access. This is great if the data needs to be shared to many people in a widely distributed project team, but less than worthless if you want to keep the data private to just yourself. If you don’t need both of those things there’s no good reason to use cloud storage, and it becomes just another way for you to give money to your internet connection provider. My personal recommendation for data security is simply keeping a backup external drive in a fire and water proof safe. If you’re self employed you can write off the cost of both the drive and the safe.

With dropbox 1tb it’s 9$ a month and my desktop  (late 90s model) has only 35 gb. I use a tablet for sheet music and a smartphone so dropbox is not what I was looking for. Baking up my cheap 1tb external harddrive with a more expensive model will fix my worries. I just researched about the government being able to access anybodies harddrives since u guys mentioned privacy issues…. what a communist piece of crap our government is. Isn’t this what the cold war scare was about? Not waning to be watched? I also put a piece of black tape over my smartphone ‘s and Tablets cameras. I had no clue. No longer the “U.S.A” I’m calling us Russina! Russian and China sounds like vagina. Wtf this is 1984 meets Star Wars.

[RennieParticipant]

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Rennie: When I first learned programming over 40 years ago, the computer system at my alma mater had everything centralized, including data storage. Now we have the “cloud” which, frankly, is a step backwards. I’m sure the main reason it’s being pushed onto people is to provide an easy means by which certain parties can snoop on whatever one has stored.

That’s what I figure as well, they’ll get people sold on the idea of cloud services, then they’ll move everyone to cloud operating systems. It’s rumored Windows 11 and beyond may be software as a service.

I’m never giving up my ability to compute independent of the internet, even if I have to spend alot of money.

[– Deleted on Request –Spectator 936]

Rennie:

 

It’s like something I learned soon after I became a ham.  One is well advised to be careful about what’s said on the air as one never knows who’s listening in.

 

If one doesn’t want someone else snooping around in one’s files, don’t put them where they can be easily accessed.

 

[BigDParticipant 3024]

Be a man and DIY.  owncloud.org.  Real men do it through terminal.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Just don’t store any personal info you care about into the “cloud” (File-server). At most all I used dropbox for is school work, that’s it.

If you must store something in the “cloud” then I suggest you make a NAS server of your own with a BSD or GNU/Linux O.S that works for servers. Better learn to use the console though.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

For backups. All I got is two external HDDs and a handful of USB 2.0/3.0 of Kingston and Adata drives.

That dumb TV show scorpions made me want to rip my hair out when they talked about taking out a bunch of servers for files that can be used for “evil” HELLO, any f~~~ing server manager with half a brain can easily have a large number of HDD/SSD backs, USB backup if the files are small, and maybe some laptops that act as a backup computer with the files you want to delete.

Why my parents like to watch s~~~ty tv shows is beyond me, and I don’t care anymore about helping people that like to “think positive”

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[– Deleted on Request –Spectator 936]

Here’s another reason to be worried about on-line storage:

 

 

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<p class=”MsoNormal”>If you encrypt everything you put online, the government and anyone without a quantum computer won’t be able to touch a damn file. Rinjdael or AES is basically unbreakable and really no one has the resources to really even try.</p>
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<p class=”MsoNormal”>http://www.cryptopp.com/</p&gt;

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