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I’m in a pinch. I have studied social psychology at uni. I know that according to Maslow and several other scientists social recognition and the sense of belonging is a fundament to the essence of being human; we should all belong. We should all wish to have other humans around us. F~~~in kumbaya!
Problem is I don’t feel this need. I like some people, I call them friends. I even had a friend I shared quarters with and it worked fine as we left eachother plenty of space. But living with someone that is supposed to “share everything”, being close every free hour? I would explode and I would get pretty friggin nasty if I didn’t get my space!
I just read up on SPD, I have read what diagnosed SPDs think of their situations and I feel this could just as well have been written by me; all the way from an incredibly low sex drive to the need (not wish, but need) to have peace and quiet. I think I could probably be a glass clear candidate for the diagnosis, and I am curious, this being a forum for men opting out of traditional confined living, am I the only here thinking this could be matching my personality?PS: on the other hand I just talked to a friend who said; “Bulls~~~; you are the sound one, you live life the way it’s meant to be lived, if you need a diagnosis then the zombies need one more!” And that makes sense to me.
I seek to make relationships with other people simply due to the usefulness of one. There are many benefits to having people around, and I’m not talking about sexual. That did take me some time to realize though. Back to your post I wouldn’t diagnose yourself or even think of the DSM as something entirely reliable. We all have some disorder one way or another if you go by the DSM. Which I assume you’re going by that.
You could go with the MBTI “school of thought” and you would probably fit into INTP or INTJ. I don’t think I would live with someone intimately though. I don’t see that happening to me anytime soon.
I know, and I am most certainly an opponent of self-diagnosis as it is unrelible and can do more harm than good. It’s just that I recognize at least 80% of the symptoms and I am not a hypocondric; most other diagnosis I can hands down say “this is not me”, even the relatively similar Aspergers syndrome. That is why I wonder if perhaps it could be an idea to seek out a professional to investigate me. The thing holding me back is that it would stay in my papers for the rest of my life….
That’s entirely up to you. If you’re currently working I would be a little wary of certain people. Some may try to give their “diagnosis” and then s~~~ flows up stream, and low and behold you’re called into the office. Couple weeks later you have a new diagnosis or mental disorder. It’s entirely up to you though. Try to “blend” in when necessary. What’s necessary is entirely up to you.
I think a person with your level of self-awareness has little to worry about. Just watch your habits of behavior and modify them with newer better habits as needed. Conformity and social acceptance by the masses is over rated, in my opinion.
Full disclosure: I’m a self-diagnosed Aspergers. I’m a walking check list of the signs and symptoms. Oh well, life goes on and I’m getting by somehow.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I have studied some psychology books outside of school, and have noticed that all of the disorders without physical cause are simply due mostly to being out of balance with yourself. Typically from a traumatic experience.
But when reading the “symptoms” it has the same effect as a horoscope, in that, it kind of applies to everyone at some point in their life.
So if I were you, I wouldn’t read too much into it unless you are not able to function successfully within society and/or not capable of being independent.
What is a personality disorder? I mean really? It is only a “thing” if it is causing a problem. Otherwise it’s your personality, it’s you, accept yourself.
Now on the other hand I think “feminism” is a full blown psychotic disorder complete with delusions, loose associations and hallucinations of men trying to do women in.
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Anonymous42I don’t take much stock in psychology, it’s a matter of introversion (me) and extroversion (psychologist) I see them as social reliant weaklings. They see me a closed door that will not open, must be jammed, or broken. The truth, in this world if your doors are not locked, the boogie man will get in. I live in the relative safety of a locked door that keeps psychological intruders out! A door mat also needs plenty of people to feel purpose for it’s existence.
I just happen to be a deep well, a place one shouldn’t tread…Symptoms of Schizoid Personality Disorder
Individuals with Schizoid personality disorder are fearful of the world, ultimately entering into a secluded and hidden environment that they create. They lean towards extreme submissiveness and give the impression of only seeking any form of validation from within. On the other hand, their lack of constructive connection and emotional apathy frequently places them in a situation where they can easily be manipulated by other individuals (Martens, 2010). Internally, they may struggle with individual feelings of community seclusion and isolation, and have an increased risk for depression (Mayo Clinic, 2013).
The criteria for SPD from the DSM-5 are as follows (American Psychiatric Association, 2013):
A persistent pattern of disinterest from social interactions and a limited variety of expression of emotions in a close personal settings, starting in early adulthood and there in an array of contexts, as shown by at least four (or more) of the subsequent:
neither wants nor likes close relationships, counting being part of a family
almost constantly picks introverted activities
has little if any, thought in engaging in any sexual experiences
seldom derives pleasure from any activities
has no close friends other than immediate relatives
appears apathetic to the admiration or disapproval of others
shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affectivity"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
Alright, how to say this. Psychiatry is not a science, and many (myself included) feel it’s a scam. It is for the most part, ineffectual, with occasional successes. I know because I worked in a Psych Dept for 19 years before our doors closed in 2012. About 70% of our patients came back at least several times a year, and some maybe 5 or 6 times. The success rate for ‘cures’ is dismal. At any rate the clip below exposes the underbelly of Psychiatry, and how Psychiatrists invent, yes you read that right, INVENT disorders. But enough of my rambling, see for yourselves. If this wasn’t such a serious topic it could almost pass for a comedy!
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
I studied psychology for a year then gave up as I felt it had too much b.s to it (e.g Freud the coke addict and his mommy fixation, evolutionary psychology/evolution -not proven scientifically and even Darwin called it a ‘theory’ for which he had no solid evidence).
I am also an INTJ according to my psychometric test. That being said, I too sometimes wonder am I normal for living a life of a social recluse by choice (I also have what some would call ‘avoidant personality disorder’). Thing is I’m very content/comfortable in my own skin and being by myself whereas people who have a strong need to belong generally don’t seem to be.
I don't need pussy
Neutron: I agree! I think there are ‘real’ organic brain disorders like paranoid schizophrenia. I would argue those are in the minority. If I hallucinate and can’t function, that is often an organic brain disorder in my brain, but that’s a small minority of those seeing psychologists. Categorizing and naming is useful but DSM is too long.
A lot of this is about making money. Some drugs help conditions, but I have known many that drugs have not helped or had bad side effects.
Homosexuality used to be a disorder; now it’s not. If changing politics can impact what a disorder is, it’s kind of a soft science.
neither wants nor likes close relationships, counting being part of a family
almost constantly picks introverted activities
has little if any, thought in engaging in any sexual experiences
seldom derives pleasure from any activities
has no close friends other than immediate relatives
appears apathetic to the admiration or disapproval of others
shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affectivitySo enjoying and preferring solitude is a disorder but being a “thirsty bitch”
isn’t ???After a battery of tests, and “diagnosis'” . I have come to the conclusion that I’m OK. the majority of the world is screwy.
I’m nuts? Hell, I know that, and I can live with that if I’m just given my space, and the ability to deal with it myself.
For me it is the unwillingness or inability to deal with the emotional and mental saturation from society. As one man, I can only carry so much before the burdens of others become too much, then I have to divest myself of those burdens in order to save/protect myself.
That doesn’t seem too unreasonable to me.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Anonymous5But enough of my rambling, see for yourselves. If this wasn’t such a serious topic it could almost pass for a comedy!
Terrific video Neutron.
We can add the psychology and psychiatric industries to the matrix list.
It’s no wonder there’s been a pandemic of psychiatric illnesses in the last 50 years.
It’s all about money from diagnosis to treatment. It’s a $100 billion industry in the US alone.
All at the expense of the “patient” It’s an extremely cruel industry.
It’s refreshing to see so many leading professionals in the industry and associated industries, call it for what it is and explain why it’s such a disgraceful fraud.I probably won’t be seeing more than one other human being until next Saturday September 26th. Tuesday, I’m expecting an overnight package delivered so I’ll see the delivery person. Other than that, no one will probably cross my path for the next five days. I don’t see myself as having any kind of syndrome other than liking a quiet life. The only reason I can do this is because I’m currently working on projects completely from home. I walk one mile round trip to my mailbox. Once you’ve experienced a somewhat peaceful existence, you can’t go back. I don’t see it as a disorder but rather a basic personal preference. No wife, no kids, no relationships and limited social life. My only pets ‘other than several tropical fish’ are the hidden animals of the forest. I wouldn’t have the fish either because i believe they belong in the wild ..but I saw them at the store and felt I could give some of them a better life than they had in those small commercial tanks. Other than having to put up with the occasional pesky skunks and raccoons, I keep extremely busy from dawn to dusk and feel no need for more frequent social interactions.
Many years ago a shrink told me that my mind was like a bad neighborhood. .I shouldn’t go into it alone. .such bulls~~~!
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