Sauna – the eternal refugee for the Finn men

[Eric A.J. MoleParticipant 8]

Hello folks! This is my first post on these forums, and I thought that I’d share a insight to my own, native culture that is very much MGTOW and perhaps – I humbly hope so atleast – will be beneficial to the fellow MGTOW reader. I’n advance I ask you to forgive me for my possible mispellings and bear with me, as english is not my native language. This is not the place for long introductions, but anyhoot in short: I’m 24 years of age, living in Eastern Finland.

Just a short look into the history of the sauna right here. The Sauna, as I know it, (or the sweatroom as I’ve heard it called) Is a North-European/Baltic/Russian tradition that is an essential part of the finnish lifestyle even today. Basically it is a room with a wood – or, these days, electrically – heated stove. You go in there and throw water at the hot rocks, which creates pleasant blasts of hot, humid steam. Before the introduction of running water and electricity, the Sauna was pretty much the only way a man could feel comfortably warm, safe and secure for a majority of the year – our winters being long and ruthless, so I ( my own personal thinking) credit much of its meaning to this simple fact. Not to mention that it really is purifying in a bodily sense, too.

Times have changed, but even still today you will find a public swimhall/sauna combination in every major city, house and even blocks of flats (a communal sauna is the bare minimum most of the time). There are 5 million people in Finland and around 3 million saunas, so you get the picture.

I dont mean to bore you with too much detail, but now is the time to mention that up here it is the custom to sauna totally naked (both men and women), and there is nothing unusual/sexual about it. I had my first sauna around the age of 6 months or so with my brother, father and mother and sister. During the age of perhaps 6-15 I went in with my brother and father, and then mostly alone until I moved out of my parents place at 18. The right to sauna alone is a great privilidge – in my family atleast-, and personally I suppose it was a rite of manhood, too. You are there alone with your thoughts and the purifying heat- kind of a thing.

So much for the introduction. I want to focus on the public saunas, as they truly seem like the last, true safe harbour for the finnish man to express their opinions honestly. Women and men have seperated areas and their own saunas in these public swimhalls. Some places also have a unisex sauna for those who wish to use it.

The thing about going into a public sauna for men is that it is utterly, unforgiveably democratic and free of all bulls~~~. You could be sitting with 10-20 other men in the same room, naked, sweating from the tip of your head all the way to your b~~~~. All titles are leaved at the door; inside, every man is truly equal. It is, in a sense, such a fundamendal part of being finnish that I suppose it might even sound religious to some of you, and that is fine. It is an many millenia-long tradition of purification of the mind and soul, so it kinda does make sense I suppose. To me, it is the absolute basis of my countrymens mentality.

These are some of the unwritten, unspoken rules of having a sauna the finnish way. You can sit in there with 20 other men in a comfortable silence. Mainly you dont speak unless you have something important to say, but if you do speak up, you will be listened to and if someones wishes to discuss it with you they may, and everyone is welcomed to join in. No arguing or insulting ever takes place in the sauna. The longest ruling President of Finland, Urho Kekkonen, used to sauna with the Soviet states of head and discuss things with them, so I guess that says something.

A regular Joe such as me can sit in the same public sauna with members of Parliament, preachers, beggars, thieves, former heads of State… you name it. To me that is the purest essence of equality there is. The colour of your skin, your native homeland or your wealth does not mean a damn thing in there, trust me.

Some of the best advice and most valuable pieces of philosophy and history in my life I’ve heard from the old, wise men sitting in public saunas. To me it will always remain a safe haven, free of political correctness, feminism and all the other s~~~ that corrupt our world these days.

Where-ever you are – try out a sauna if you can.

Humbly,

Eric A.J Mole

[RoyDalParticipant]

Sauna sounds great to me! By the way, welcome to this site and thanks for the sauna post.

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[Eric A.J. MoleParticipant 8]

Thank you RoyDal! This forum sure feels like a online sauna if there ever was one.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Welcome

A mgtow sauna will be installed in rest stop mgtow. I’ll bitcoin KM the funds.

I really like the sauna but my age prefers a steam room.

Either of those two sanctuaries are amazing places of reflection, zen, masculinity and female free peace.

God I wish I could go have a steam now.

Can’t wait to try our new one after KM has sorted it out ?

Again …. welcome.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

I have tried Sauna once, here in the distant land of Brazil.

Yes, mate, we have saunas, even here!

And yes, it is exactly like you said. No titles, no wealth, no bulls~~~. Just men in the same space doing the same thing, together. The silence you can get inside it is almost as silent as a healing chamber.

I doubt if a man can get the same silence and enjoyment as he gets in a men-only sauna, in a unisex one. To me, the sauna is like a “war room”, where men gather to think, share some notes and then get back to their business with a couple more ideas to be successful. A true refuge for men, be they finnish or any other citizenships.

I give you Finns, that… I think that it is not about equality, I think that a sauna is about truth. None can hold secrets in a sauna. The only way to keep your secrets in the sauna is by not talking about them, and if no one talks about anything, you all gained something, either way.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome ! i’m jealous ..i grew up in new york city ..as a kid , saunas were for gay men and were a laughing matter ..then lots of russians came into brooklyn and opened saunas …but if you weren’t russian , you probably would not go …so i missed out .. maybe one day ..

[Eric A.J. MoleParticipant 8]

Thanks for the warm welcomes, I’m happy to see that clearly I wont be the only sauna-enthusiast here!

ILiveAgain – you nailed it! Both places are sanctuaries. The steam room propably is much is gentler on the heart, and for the rest of one’s body too, I imagine.

DarkKenshi, saunas in Brazil? Awesome! I’ve read that the first thing finnish peacekeepers do when deployed – even when its in countries like Mali, Afghanistan, Israel etc. – is that they build a sauna. They swear its a good way to get washed and relaxed even when in such naturally hot/humid enviroments. Don’t have any personal experience, so I’m really curious to hear how it was for you – bodily, that is. Refreshing?

I like what you said about truth there and totally agree.

hitman, really? I hope the peeps in New York these days dont consider it to be like that…

And hey, it’s never too late! If you’re living in the US, I’d guess your best chances of finding a nice sauna-ing place in the states up next to the Canadian border, thats where a lot of finn’s migrated to back in the 1800’s. I stumbled upon a article about this actually; check it out! It lists some sauna places up in Minnesota and Oregon atleast that are open to the public. I’ll put the link at the end!

http://www.saunatimes.com/tag/612-sauna-society/

[HeadstrongParticipant 84]

Yes friends Sauna is a very nice tradition living amongst us from the viking ages, in iceland the traveling vikings built saunas to stay well, cuz it is much about sanitation, socializing, talking out on hard topics, and cleanliness and also a warm place where women could give birth in. In some countries sauna is still used as a meeting room too, at least my relatives used it as such. Sauna is not what many unknowing people claims to be, a heated up f~~~ing and drinking room where everybody in there are naked and groping is free. I am not sure but i think sauna is used in all of the northern hemisphere and they are super-good stuff when youve been out in the cold. Sauna should be respected for what it really is and not that of an idiots skewed impression of what it what it might be used as. Ive met a southern guy whom started to talk about sex orgies and saunas, resulting in everybody just looking at him wtf?? Rest ashure that the northern folks wouldnt be alive today frozen to death if it wasnt for the sauna. And some people cannot understand that all are naked and looking at eachothers bodies… naturally looking for signs of freezing injuries, touching and checking if all is functional on the body. sometimes having a cold drink to counteract the sudden heat inside. Hitman im sorry, hope youll have a sauna soon.

To the defence of the existance of sauna i say… One place id never go visiting is one of those thai/oriental massage place because THAT is oiled up penis jerking place. Real men go sauna by themselves or with eachother, or if he is a familyguy, all family go have sauna. Sauna is civilized not oil massage and s~~~.

And comparing sauna to that of massage, all company in the military, families and workrelated, people with cold sicknesses, and friends go sauna, not oiled up massage.

And yes sauna is free, not massage service.

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9547]

We have saunas and steam rooms in just about every major health club. Mine at XSport does and they’re next to each other in the shower area. I prefer the steam room. Most of the time, people really don’t talk to one another. Mainly the guys sit there and daydream or think.

The only part I don’t like about those hot rooms is the naked gay guys who stare at me wearing just a towel over my middle self tossing off to themselves. The sickest part is they’re fat, hairy, middle-aged ogres that are getting horny for me and talking filthy about my body. I just ignore it until the heat makes me leave. That’s quite rare. It used to be once a week, but the last time an old guy got weird on me was months ago. So it’s gotten better. I’m going to say being gay is right or wrong, but I don’t want a naked man who’s fat, hairy and over 60 years old making me feel uncomfortable while he’s pleasuring himself. I say if you want to be gay and proud of it, go ahead, this is America; just don’t put me into an uncomfortable situation.

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[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

I’m just glad that men’s sites exist. Not very country has saunas.

I suppose that I could chat with people in the men’s washroom … but I would probably encounter a white knight if I did that. I’ll stick to sites where the white knights are booted out.

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[B4TOWParticipant 209]

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