Same old song and dance.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Hello all.

Don’t know if anyone recognizes me. Cap285 from the old MGTOW forums run by Nacho Vidal. Currently on mgtowhq.com and goingyourownway.com, Cap Last on Youtube.

My journey to MGTOW was an inadvertent one, yet the same as many as the title indicates. 12 years of marriage the eventually degraded into us becoming mortal enemies. Giving up my friends, hobbies, etc. you guys know the deal. Was married to a hypocrite who preached about how she hated liars and cheaters….until she decided to do it. I only recently paid off my legal fees for the divorce and assault charge as one day when I was playing video games she decided to bring the guy to the house, something I couldn’t let pass. Luckily, I’m a veteran and have no police record and got off pretty easy. Just a side note: Only when I was pummeling her boyfriend would she admit she cheated.

Then periods of dating between 2010 and 2013. Normal and online. Even people trying to fix you up. Good God, what a f~~~ing farce. It’s obnoxious post Wall™ drunks in the bar or girls lying about their appearance online. As time went on, I became more and more disillusioned. At the end of one of my dating periods, I was contacted by a girl to which I replied “Can I help you”. She took great offense to this as I’m guessing I didn’t bow down at the chance of obtaining her golden uterus. Of course I get the “You don’t know what you’re missing! I have a great career….”. I stopped there as that is a giant red flag. Another side note: There are women who are still on the same dating sites 4 years later. I trolled POF recently and called some on it. They lied about it. How can you not find someone within a 75 mile radius in 4 years? Impossible requirements? Ego trip? I say both.

As time went on, I became a people watcher. I paid close attention to how they acted and interacted with one another. What they talked about, etc. During this time, I had began weight training again, something forbade while I was married. Being able to put my heart and soul back in it and buying the right supplements allowed me to from 165 from divorce to currently 200. This just fueled my anger more as I realized that women are detrimental to not only enjoyment but your health. I see the women talk and act at work yet get pursued for the worst behavior and personalities. This baffles me as I am able to spend my money on expanding my blu ray library and other things I like. I am in the process of purchasing all new hockey equipment, helmet to skates. Point being, I’m having a lot more fun being in shape, playing hockey with my cousins and doing whatever I like instead of answering to someone.

Anyway, I have come to the point where the aggravation of women is not worth the 5 second orgasm. Besides, most of them lay there like a felled tree anyway. Nor can they compete with terabytes of free porn. If one falls in my lap, great, but my hobbies are too much fun to deal with listening to them talk about whatever inane s~~~ they like. Can’t deal with it anymore. I pretty much don’t even acknowledged their existence anymore with the exception of their sexual use. If I’m looked at as a walking ATM, I have decided to treat them in a similar fashion.

Keep your money and mental health. Have fun. Don’t go back to the plantation. Thanks for having me.

MGTOW

Fuck this planet.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Not so secretly hoping you would drop in, and f~~~ing excellent that you did. You submitted a couple of paragraphs a couple of weeks ago which we were anxious to start the the “dating” forum sections with… but a personal visit trumps it. Awesome you beat me to it. Enjoyed your other grenades of wisdom. You should be teaching MGTOW game.

For others, this is the dude who inspired The Wall™ quote and our trailer (Terminator 2 edition).
(No autographs. No pictures. Just throw in money so he can buy more hockey gear.)

I also have an entire volume of dating escapades that would turn hairs white. Back in 2008 I was a free man in a new city, and starting a business in another city was all-consuming. I just didn’t have the time to meet women any other way. Stupidly thought it would be cool to connect with a couple of chicks online, make a she-friend or three, and perhaps meet a girl among them I could call on a Friday night after work to hang with and catch a movie for some casual fun with no expectations. That was the mistake.

No matter how LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for a woman, you can always count on her to fall BELOW it.

The way women present themselves online is a horror show. Exactly the same s~~~ all over the place. Endless demands…. “You musts”… and my personal favorite was “don’t email me unless….”. What the f~~~ are you doing looking for a guy online – who you expect should be interested in you(!) – saying “DONT email me”. Are you out of your f~~~ing mind? She’s on a dating site, paying $30 a month to meet a dude with his life in order and typing out paragraphs of s~~~ she HATES.

It was such a brilliant insight into the vapid female mind, that instead of having any interest in “dating” any single one of that s~~~, I started researching what the f~~~ is going on with the modern female. This somehow lead me to MGTOW online discussions where I fell back in my goddam chair when I discovered 19867253761547625431 other guys who had EXACTLY. THE. SAME. STORIES. TO. TELL.

Exactly. I was floored.

So I am grateful to you for your anecdotes, stories and good s~~~ which absolutely cemented my suspicions. These days the phone is ringing off the hook with Post-Wall™ chicks, divorced exes, and even girls I was in grade school with when Donna Summer was the Queen of disco. “Hey hows it going? Remember me? I’ll be in town next week!”

“GREAT!!!TELL ME WHEN YOU ARRIVE AND WHAT HOTEL YOU”RE STAYING IN!!! IF I’M IN TOWN WE’LL HAVE A COFFEE!!”
…. and then make myself scarce. The ones that didn’t message back heard me loud and clear.

MGTOW

Excellent to see you here, Cap. Enjoying your youtube page.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Typical woman. Says she hates liars and cheaters and than turns around and does the same thing. Why wouldn’t see let you weight train? Was she afraid too many women would be attracted to you if you got muscle? Also did her boyfriend know he was dating a married woman? It doesn’t seem fair to beat up a guy for not knowing, even if he did know I still think that is messed up to hurt him over that, but that is just me.

Interesting that you went back on to Plenty of Fish 4 years later to find the same women. Perhaps I should reactivate my OK Cupid profile and see how many women are still looking from 3 years ago.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I had an ex who’s mother used to deliberately make efforts to over-feed me when we would visit. Every time she would say “have another piece of pie” or another cookie. I would say no thank you, and she would push harder. I remain absolutely convinced they do this to “fatten him up” and to try and narrow his options and eliminate competition.

Girlfriends would also curiously tell me I didn’t need to go to the gym as I was on my out the door in early in the morning. Again for exactly the same reason. She liked that I went to the gym when she met me, now I shouldn’t go anymore? “You don’t NEED to” is the way they say it. I would just say “Yeah I do. And so do you.” That would f~~~ them up for about a week. They don’t want you going because it means more work for them. By going to the gym you are effectively forcing them to do the same.

It’s amazing how a guy not only needs to have the motivation to get and keep his ass in shape….
but he also needs to jump the hurdle of the COUNTER-FORCES against him from women who want to put a cap on his health and options.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

@keymaster

Not so secretly hoping you would drop in, and f~~~ing excellent that you did. You submitted a couple of paragraphs a couple of weeks ago which we were anxious to start the the “dating” forum sections with… but a personal visit trumps it. Awesome you beat me to it. Enjoyed your other grenades of wisdom. You should be teaching MGTOW game.

That is high praise. Thank you. If my teachings save just one man from grief and aggravation it would be worth it. Working on a topic/rant for the dating section now.

For others, this is the dude who inspired The Wall™ quote and our trailer (Terminator 2 edition).
(No autographs. No pictures. Just throw in money so he can buy more hockey gear.)

Thanks again. Let’s not forget one of my heroes, Kyle Reese for the original quote. Yes, money is always welcome as even Bauer Vapor 7.0’s are $60 a piece. Sticks are high tech now.

Joking. Spend it on yourselves.

Fuck this planet.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

@thebard HObbit reference? He’s my favorite character.

Typical woman. Says she hates liars and cheaters and than turns around and does the same thing.

I’m afraid so. 12 years is a long tome to get preached at and accuse of running around with hookers to have her go and do it. I honestly think I was p~~~ed more about the years of nagging than act. Nagging and bitching is my krypton. I told my buddy she accused me a running around with hookers and he left a message on my answering in his best Huggy Bear voice. It was a riot.

Why wouldn’t see let you weight train? Was she afraid too many women would be attracted to you if you got muscle?

You are correct. Her brothers wife gave me the once over and I think that’s what started it. Also, gym memberships cost money. We all know that money not spent on what women don’t like or consider useful is ‘wasted’. She wasn’t an exercise person, I come from a family of mostly athletes so we never saw eye to eye. My mom is the same way. Has a room that worth thousands of dollars in carpet, furnishings and stupid little trinkets that nobody is allowed to sit in yet gave me a hard time for spending $600 on Riedell inline skates. That was 1996. I still use the same skate as they’re that good.

Also did her boyfriend know he was dating a married woman?

Of course he did. They worked together. She hired him. I’ve ranted before about women hiring guy because they’re ‘hawt’ and passing up guys who area qualified. I know it first hand. The code is dead. Most guys would throw each other under a bus for pussy.

It doesn’t seem fair to beat up a guy for not knowing, even if he did know I still think that is messed up to hurt him over that, but that is just me.

It’s not like I drove around looking for the guy. She brought him to the house. You can only disrespect me so much. Not only that she wanted some of our daughters money, which I wouldn’t give to her. Why did she need it when she was getting free s~~~ for her vag? She literally stamped her feet like a four year old when I wouldn’t give it to her. So, I was p~~~ed to begin with. She’s driving around with the guy she cheated with, with our daughter, to the house we lived in while married. Couple that with the 12 years of missed partied, sporting events, concerts things I couldn’t buy. 12 years of preaching about how she hate liars and cheaters. Mounting legal fees. A whirlwind of s~~~ goes through your head in 2 second. If I didn’t fight to get full custody (I have it) she would have dragged our daughter around to multiple schools as she moved several times up until Christmas of 2012. She was in sixth grade and becoming a young lady. She needed stability. That guy wouldn’t of cared if she went to 20 different schools as long as the pussy kept rolling in. I disagree. Some people deserve a beating. Like all cowards, he just couldn’t take it for what he had done wrong, he filed an assault charge. I did what I had to do: get a confession so my daughter knew the truth. My regret is that my daughter was young and saw me go military on the guy. There are no guarantees I won’t do it again. What’s funny is, I used to do house to house searches in Fallujah, I know how to get information, perhaps she forgot? She had the gall to me she was going out with her friends when she was running around with this guy, the same work friends she said she would never hang out with. I hit it off with a lot of the other work husbands. One lived a town over. He invited us over to the pool to cook out and listen to Ozzy Osbourne. Oh no, she didn’t hang out with work friends. My ass. I dare you not to explode after being a slave, dealing with mountains of hypocrisy, lies and deceit. I dare you. I mean no disrespect. But please understand where I am coming from. I didn’t mean to go off.

Interesting that you went back on to Plenty of Fish 4 years later to find the same women. Perhaps I should reactivate my OK Cupid profile and see how many women are still looking from 3 years ago.

Please do. Please post a topic about it with names if you remember. It will just prove our theory more. All you’ll need is a week. The only difference is now they have to put “a few extra pounds” instead “average”.

Fuck this planet.

[IggyThundersParticipant 246]

As to the online dating thing? Some of the bios and lists of demands are so f~~~ing egregious its beyond comical. I see there is a section for online dating horror on this forum. I think some screenshots of some of the worst would be highly entertaining over there. If its okay with the Key Master I think I will post a few.The best are the ones loaded with requirments (Must have, Must not haves) from broads who are way past the wall. Talk about delusional! Or the lsiting of “qualities” they dont like. Its obvious all those unwanted “Qualities” are what she didnt like in the poor schmuck who put up with her for years. Next time they will be replaced with unwanted qualities from the NEW sucker whom she chewed up and spat out. Have fun cuddling up with you dogs princess. By the way, I dont know about elsewhere? But where I live OK Cupid should be called “OK I really like to eat”. One after the other! Its like Al Bundy’s nightmare!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

What if you mean if it’s OK? I INSIST!
Have a boatload to share myself, but more authentic if it comes directly from our users – certainly to start.

Have at it.

Snapshots and images are also welcome. If you want to send pictures to us, we can put them here and send you direct links back so you don’t have to rely on outside image buckets for storage. We are still going ahead with our upload section (which were are finalizing logistics for) but in the mean time… we got the forums up AQAP just for that.

Looking forward to it and thanks very much.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

@cap285

My name more so comes from the Bard job in RPG’s mainly the Final Fantasy series.

After all you said I can understand better why you did that and it makes sense. If he was ok with your daughter moving from school to school that alone gives you grounds to do what you did. After the 12 years of lying, cheating, and all the women BS I would go crazy to if her and some new guy were trying to take my daughter away and ruin her life. If I had a daughter and was in the same situation I would do the same to anyone who didn’t care about my daughter. Your ex sounds like a typical American woman. Thinks she can do no wrong and everyone has to listen to her. The fact she was willing to make your daughter suffer just so she could be with this guy makes me sick and even more happier I am adopting by myself. I am happy that you got custody of your daughter though. Glad our corrupt family court system actually did something right for once.

I reactivated my profile last night and don’t recall seeing any old faces, but will keep looking.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Cap is the The Wall™ guy? I love that movie you guys made. Another guy Ian said in the “about” section that he was enjoying “the wall” and I kept seeing and hearing this. Then, when I finally figured out what “the wall” was, I was howling. I heard you’re working on a Hypergamy trailer, but can’t imagine how you can put that into visuals? The anticipation is killing me. I think it would be cool for you guys to also make narrative videos like Barbarossa and Sandman. They are fun to listen to in the car on my phone.

I had a girl with me and was listening to a Tom Leykis clip just got see her reaction. I don’t remember where you suggested this but it was a great idea! I just pretending like it came on by accident. As I was chuckling she was fuming.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Cap is the The Wall™ guy? I love that movie you guys made.

Sort of. All I did was doctor a Terminator quote and it just caught on. I’m honored it caught on this much. The good people running this website make the videos and funny stuff and I just show up for s~~~s and giggles.

I had a girl with me and was listening to a Tom Leykis clip just got see her reaction. I don’t remember where you suggested this but it was a great idea! I just pretending like it came on by accident. As I was chuckling she was fuming.

Have her watch some Marc Rudov videos then watch her face.

Fuck this planet.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

The good people running this website make the videos and funny stuff and I just show up for s~~~s and giggles.

Packaging it as entertaining, theatrical, fun (and even funny) when possible is the goal. I suppose the overall MGTOW “mood” can be so easily misunderstood as “bitter” but it isn’t. Even your outstanding rant on online dating is so f~~~ing good and wildly entertaining (because it’s TRUE), I haven’t been able to compact the reply it deserves with some extras of my own. (I greatly appreciate the time it must have taken to break it down like that).

We wanted to take the same message and inject some humor while keeping it very real.

If a professional comedian went on stage and read your rant the audience would be howling. Much like Chris Rock and his video on “love and relationships”. He doesn’t actually say anything “funny”, he says it like it is. If you typed his words out, a woman would read it and think he was a hateful misogynist bastard. This became apparent to me when I was watching his HBO special with an (now) ex. I was laughing my head off and she was getting so p~~~ed. 50,000 people in the theatre were laughing and the camera even shows tears streaming from their eyes, but the woman sitting next to me was hearing the words, which revealed that her “plan” was exposed before she could get the ring.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

@keymaster

Even your outstanding rant on online dating is so f~~~ing good and wildly entertaining (because it’s TRUE), I haven’t been able to compact the reply it deserves with some extras of my own. (I greatly appreciate the time it must have taken to break it down like that).

Thanks. It could’ve been longer, but I forget stuff and rush sometimes to get things posted. I should really sit and make a detailed version. It’s no problem. If people laugh and get advice, I’m good with that. When you do get the time, I would love to hear your input.

If a professional comedian went on stage and read your rant the audience would be howling.

My friends have always told me to do this. Put it in a book and/or read it on stage. My MGTOW views and childhood tribulations. I always figured I’d come off as bat-s~~~ insane instead of funny.

High praise. Thank you Dr. Venkman.

Fuck this planet.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@cap I will be sure to add my personal accounts of dating the modern broad. A disaster of biblical proportions. Old testament, Mr. Mayor. Real wrath-of-god-type-stuff. Fire and brimstone falling from the sky! Rivers and seas BOILING! 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes! Volcanoes! The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… MASS HYSTERIA!!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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