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  • #138872
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    Ancientwisdom
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    nobody is entitled to condemn the youngest generations, except the youngest themselves.

    This is nonsense. I have to be a part of the same generation/age group to speak against them? Or Im not “entitled”? Are you a Yale student? Because your reasoning like one.

    Where were the Boomers and X as Cultural Marxism was being rolled out in universities and throughout society?

    This is a fallacy of division:

    A fallacy of division occurs when one reasons logically that something true for the whole must also be true of all or some of its parts

    So because I was a part of a previous generation that didnt stop this, I myself am individually responsible for it happening and I cant speak against it? Nonsense.

    I was never a sitting president, senator, or congressman. I have never been a news journalist or held any position which would help me sway public opinion on a large scale.

    I have and do however speak my mind whenever I can, no matter how small of an impact that might have. You conclude that only members of that generation are “entitled” to condemn them. As though each individual of any prior generation is personally responsible for their views. Thats ridiculous.

    I have more f~~~ing respect for ISIS and terrorist Muslims than I do for my fellow American countrymen at this point. Pathetic.

    By your own logic you cant condemn your fellow country men, because you fit smack dab in the middle of that demographic.

    Its obvious you hate what the stidents in that video stand for, as do I, but neither of us are responsible for it and we can both speak against it.

    Resident cynic.

    #138905
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    Franky
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    Fast forward 10 years:

    “University entries are at a record time low!
    Lets ask our head matriarch for the reasons:
    -Well it’s really a complicated issue, although we threw out all the male professors and sent 80% of our male students to prison, there’s still a lot rape culture going on and we civil good people are still very much oppressed by the patriarchy! We will keep working for the betterment of womankind in the future and we’ll make sure we propagate more equality!This will surely fix our problem!”

    #138921
    Ancientwisdom
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    More pearls of wisdom from the Yale student body:

    “To ask marginalized students to throw away their enjoyment of a holiday, in order to expend emotional, mental, and physical energy to explain why something is offensive, is — offensive,”

    the letter said. “To be a student of color on Yale’s campus is to exist in a space that was not created for you.”

    One of the girls claimed the professor in the video was racist because he didnt remember her name. He pointed out he has 500 students and he cant recall all if their names. Not good enough.

    Now another girl cries racist in the quote above. Did anyone notice how disproportionate the gender and race was of the Yale students compared to who makes up the population? Almost entirely females. Almost entirely females or males of african american heritage or some muslims. Some white girls. Virtually no white males. I counted 2 after watching it 3 times.

    Everythings racist and sexist. These are the leaders of tomorrow.

    Someone made a comment earlier that these people have no clout/power. Do you realize how many people from Ivy league schools such as Yale become CEOs of businesses, are in government, and become president?

    Sickening.

    Resident cynic.

    #138924
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    Oh and this gem

    “It is not about creating an intellectual space! It is not! Do you understand that? It is about creating a home here!”

    Colleges are no longer intellectual “spaces”. They re “homes”, lol. Typical liberal f~~~tard.

    Resident cynic.

    #138930
    Ancientwisdom
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    Where were the Boomers and X as Cultural Marxism was being rolled out in universities and throughout society?

    I’ll tell you where. Either silent or collecting a paycheck to benefit off of it.

    So in my view, nobody is entitled to condemn the youngest generations, except the youngest themselves.

    Generations before ours cant speak out against the Millenials because they didnt speak out before. According to this logic, isnt this a reason why our generation SHOULD speak against the millenials? If the prior generations arent “entitled” because they didnt voice their opinion, then shouldnt we be all the more obligated to speak ours?

    Resident cynic.

    #139073
    TaxGuy
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    This from one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Whatever happened to tenure? It gives a professor a permanent post at a university, so that the professor has the freedom to think differently without fear of being fired. The concept is supposed to keep a free exchange of ideas at a university campus. But now the students want a professor fired for something he said in a private conversation? Seriously, we give a third grade teacher tenure. For what, so that they can try to prove that the proper spelling is kat?

    Once an Economics professor has tenure, they should be free to write a book on why communism is the only way that the world will survive in the next 100 years and how capitalism is destroying the entire world. And then defend their position and try to prove their theory. It may be wrong, but that’s SUPPOSED to be the value of higher education.

    “I don’t agree with what you say, but I would fight to the death for your right to say it.” Written a little over 100 years ago by Evelyn Beatrice Hall. It’s nice, I like it. Too bad it doesn’t look like anything being taught on college campuses today.

    And they call themselves “liberal”. These are the tolerant people that just expect you to understand that all people are different and we should be accepting of everyone. I would say that it never dawns on them how hypocritical they are being, but actually I think they know and just don’t care because it allows them to push their agenda and no one calls them on their bulls~~~. Or they do get called on it and the majority don’t seem to care. Either way it’s pretty disgusting.

    Order the good wine

    #139088
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    MI009
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    This is not surprising. Look at what runs Yale these days. http://president.yale.edu/about/about-president-salovey

    Peter Salovey is the 23rd president of Yale University, and the Chris Argyris Professor of Psychology. His presidential term began in July 2013.

    Prior to becoming president, Salovey served as the provost of Yale University from 2008 to 2013. As provost, Salovey facilitated strategic planning and initiatives such as: enhancing career development and mentoring opportunities for all Yale faculty members; promoting faculty diversity; creating the Office of Academic Integrity; establishing the University-wide Committee on Sexual Misconduct; developing the West Campus; and overseeing the University’s budget during the global financial crisis.

    Other leadership roles at Yale have included: chair of the Department of Psychology from 2000 to 2003; dean of the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences in 2003 and 2004; and dean of Yale College from 2004 to 2008.

    After receiving an A.B. (psychology) and A.M. (sociology) from Stanford University in 1980 with departmental honors and university distinction, Salovey earned three degrees at Yale in psychology: an M.S. (1983), M.Phil. (1984), and Ph.D. (1986). Since joining the Yale faculty in 1986, he has studied the connection between human emotion and health behavior, and played key roles in multiple Yale programs including: the Health, Emotion, and Behavior Laboratory, which Salovey founded and is now called the Center for Emotional Intelligence; the Center for Interdisciplinary Research on AIDS; and the Cancer Prevention and Control Research Program. He currently holds secondary faculty appointments in the Schools of Management and Public Health, the Institution for Social and Policy Studies, and the Sociology Department.

    Salovey has authored or edited over a dozen books translated into eleven languages and published hundreds of journal articles and essays, focused primarily on human emotion and health behavior. With John D. Mayer, he developed a broad framework called “Emotional Intelligence,” the theory that just as people have a wide range of intellectual abilities, they also have a wide range of measurable emotional skills that profoundly affect their thinking and action.

    http://ei.yale.edu/?hls=10061

    Emotions Matter. (LMAO!!!!)

    Behind every great man is a comfortable high-backed leather chair and a library of books, not a woman.

    #139089

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    Where were the Boomers and X as Cultural Marxism was being rolled out in universities and throughout society?

    I’ll tell you where. Either silent or collecting a paycheck to benefit off of it.

    So in my view, nobody is entitled to condemn the youngest generations, except the youngest themselves.

    Generations before ours cant speak out against the Millenials because they didnt speak out before. According to this logic, isnt this a reason why our generation SHOULD speak against the millenials? If the prior generations arent “entitled” because they didnt voice their opinion, then shouldnt we be all the more obligated to speak ours?

    I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to make.

    We can speak out on what happened, and that we are against it. But it is not productive nor anyone’s place to assign blame. It doesn’t make sense to blame Millennials as the root cause of something when they weren’t even born yet, or were too young to even be able to do anything about it.

    This is why I mention glass houses. Cultural Marxism arose under Boomer watch. How can any Boomer with any shame put the blame on Millennials for it?

    Think back to being a kid. My father would warn me against liberal stuff, but then you’re at school and you’re young and you have all that propaganda, I will admit I was a moron liberal in my college years too. It took me years after college before I had the life experience, wisdom, and had managed to be away from that environment to be smart enough to figure out what a sham society is. And much longer after that before MGTOW showed up.

    But nowadays so many kids don’t even have fathers, because the State made sure of that. And the propaganda is even more intense, blasting out all the time.

    You make a good point about disunity. I agree, but how is unity going to happen when the young feel like they’re being attacked?

    Our real enemies surely aren’t the kids. Not even necessarily women. The real enemy are busy hiding behind women and children and then laughing about it, as they pull the strings. Problem is, they’re very good at hiding. So even knowing they’re there, and they’re at fault, we probably still can’t find them.

    But at the least, we can refuse to play their game. Yes, speak out against feminism and liberal bulls~~~. We all do that on here anyway. But I draw the line at blaming imo pointlessly.

    #139090
    Tripvan
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    Are you guys as shocked to see how extreme this has become and how common it is now?

    I would say yes, but nope I´ve seen this kind of behavior over and over again, it´s just more rare that this is happening directly to the lecturer´s face in a public area.

    #139097
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    Jan Sobieski
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    I agree. They don’t give a s~~~ about real womens issues. Sex slavery, getting a face full of acid for going to school. But Halloween costumes….

    Also, WTF, there are no safe spaces in the real world. You make yourself safe or you are a victim. There is no women center or Dean of hating men to cry to.

    They are training to be victims in the real world.

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    #139099
    Binary Logic
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    F~~~.
    This.
    Planet.

    I want off.

    At maximum warp.

    “SHOTGUN!!!”

    Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

    #139328
    Klaus Windamier
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    @jan.Sobieski

    Do you know what is the similarity between feminazi and nazislam?

    They both a professional victim, a hardcore one.

    #139469
    Ancientwisdom
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    Pheonix

    We can speak out on what happened, and that we are against it. But it is not productive nor anyone’s place to assign blame. It doesn’t make sense to blame Millennials as the root cause of something when they weren’t even born yet, or were too young to even be able to do anything about it.

    I understand what your saying and I agree with you to an extent. But its still essential to hold each individual reaponsible for their own beliefs and actions. It doesnt matter that they themselves didnt create them. They are not only subscribing to them but are pushing the envelope further and further. Also, I cant think of too many, if any beliefs off the top ofy head, that began in one generation with zero influence from prior generations.

    Ya, these kids are young and influential but the fact that they have the audacity to scream, cuss, and destroy the livelihood of ANYONE, let alone a professor at University which has always been the beacon of freedom of speach and exchanging ideas, is despicable. They should be held accountable.

    I seriously cant believe the words that come out of their mouths. The girl in the video said

    this is not about creating an intelctual environment. It is about creating a home.

    Its insane. When the professor calmly tried to explain his views she screamed “BE QUIET!” Hes a grown man 30 years her elder, who is a Master and shes a student. He just stood there like a guilty little school boy.

    Sorry guys for ranting. This just ruffles my feathers to no end.

    Resident cynic.

    #139471
    Ancientwisdom
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    I agree. They don’t give a s~~~ about real womens issues. Sex slavery, getting a face full of acid for going to school. But Halloween costumes….

    Also, WTF, there are no safe spaces in the real world. You make yourself safe or you are a victim. There is no women center or Dean of hating men to cry to.

    They are training to be victims in the real world.

    These are my thoughts exactly when I see this s~~~. What a disservice Universities are doing to these students. How is this preparing them for the real world? How the f~~~ are they going to handle a tough work environment or dealing with people who dont give a flying rats ass about their “safe space” in the world? Can you imagine someone saying that to you in a bar?

    For those of you unfamiliar with how ridiculous this has gotten check out these “safe spaces” at Universities.

    This safe space was set up during a discussion of the culture of sexual assualt.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html?referer=&_r=0

    The safe space, Ms. Byron explained, was intended to give people who might find comments “troubling” or “triggering,” a place to recuperate. The room was equipped with cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies, as well as students and staff members trained to deal with trauma.

    This is insane! Puppies and play dough? Are they f~~~ing toddlers?

    Some people trace safe spaces back to the feminist consciousness-raising groups of the 1960s and 1970s, others to the gay and lesbian movement of the early 1990s. In most cases, safe spaces are innocuous gatherings of like-minded people who agree to refrain from ridicule, criticism or what they term microaggressions — subtle displays of racial or sexual bias — so that everyone can relax enough to explore the nuances of, say, a fluid gender identity. As long as all parties consent to such restrictions, these little islands of self-restraint seem like a perfectly fine idea.

    But the notion that ticklish conversations must be scrubbed clean of controversy has a way of leaking out and spreading. Once you designate some spaces as safe, you imply that the rest are unsafe. It follows that they should be made safer.

    This logic clearly informed a campaign undertaken this fall by a Columbia University student group called Everyone Allied Against Homophobia that consisted of slipping a flier under the door of every dorm room on campus. The headline of the flier stated, “I want this space to be a safer space.” The text below instructed students to tape the fliers to their windows. The group’s vice president then had the flier published in the Columbia Daily Spectator, the student newspaper, along with an editorial asserting that “making spaces safer is about learning how to be kind to each other.”

    Resident cynic.

    #139943
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    Klaus Windamier
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    @pharmer

    I don’t hear anyone clapping after that. Crazy bitch needs some meds and a hard slap with the cold hand of reality. Disgusting.
    His job is to provide an education, and demonstrate fairness and consideration.
    Home? Comfort? Safe Space? grab your blankie and fk off back to daddy and mummy.

    Like this?

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    Pheonix

    We can speak out on what happened, and that we are against it. But it is not productive nor anyone’s place to assign blame. It doesn’t make sense to blame Millennials as the root cause of something when they weren’t even born yet, or were too young to even be able to do anything about it.

    I understand what your saying and I agree with you to an extent. But its still essential to hold each individual reaponsible for their own beliefs and actions. It doesnt matter that they themselves didnt create them. They are not only subscribing to them but are pushing the envelope further and further. Also, I cant think of too many, if any beliefs off the top ofy head, that began in one generation with zero influence from prior generations.

    Ya, these kids are young and influential but the fact that they have the audacity to scream, cuss, and destroy the livelihood of ANYONE, let alone a professor at University which has always been the beacon of freedom of speach and exchanging ideas, is despicable. They should be held accountable.

    I seriously cant believe the words that come out of their mouths. The girl in the video said

    this is not about creating an intelctual environment. It is about creating a home.

    Its insane. When the professor calmly tried to explain his views she screamed “BE QUIET!” Hes a grown man 30 years her elder, who is a Master and shes a student. He just stood there like a guilty little school boy.

    Sorry guys for ranting. This just ruffles my feathers to no end.

    I’ve grown fed up with it. But my biggest bone to pick is with these academics in the first place. They preach personal responsibility and talk about the real world and all that bulls~~~, but academia is completely subsidized by large government and is built off the backs of the taxpayers. It is completely insulated from the real world.

    These professors and administrators get paid massive salaries. They operate as non-profits which simply means instead of a shareholder, all the money goes to the workers, so the Deans collect 7-8 figure salaries as do the profs with tenure and all sorts of other nonsense that doesn’t exist in the “real” world.

    I’m likely older than this prof, but I simply do not respect someone older than me just because they’re older. Plenty of stupid speech from older people. I’m annoyed because growing up most educators simply took advantage of “respect” that they didn’t deserve in the first place, to financially profit and brainwash generations.

    Now granted, what this woman is saying now is idiotic. But she has been trained that way.

    I would blow up the entire academic system in the US. The rest of the world does it better. Europe is way better, even though they have their own struggles too.

    Anyway this is too complex a subject just to discuss in this thread so I’ll digress.

    #140105
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    The SJW’s can go and create their own safe spaces. I see a problem is that they want their entire world to be one big safe space. That just doesn’t work at all.

    Anyone want to point to the South Park episode that went into it?

    For me, as much of my own life is my own safe space. I try to manage it. I let the public square alone, because I have no control over it.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #140310
    Jan Sobieski
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    I think he showed discretion in not yelling back. He was smart and new he was on tape

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