ROK throwing punches at MGTOW and hitting nothing.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7645]

When I made the decision to abandon women, it was because they brought negativity to my life experience. However, I did an equal opportunity abandonment act. It isn’t just for women. When I made the decision that I would rather be permanently and completely alone than to have to interact with negative people, men who brought negativity were included.

In my younger, more hormone-influenced days, I tolerated a lot of negative behavior from women only because there was the potential for sex there. But since I’m straight, another man bringing negative crap never even had that to offer. I’m not sure I understand why any of these guys would assume I care what they think/say.

They are in the same rear view mirror as all the crazy negative women I abandoned… If they have a complaint about me, they can get in line with all those crazy women and bark it to the vapor trail I left behind.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[KeymasterKeymaster]

BrainPilot wrote:

I did an equal opportunity abandonment act. It isn’t just for women. When I made the decision that I would rather be permanently and completely alone than to have to interact with negative people, men who brought negativity were included.

BEST thing really.

I did same in the last couple of years. Unceremoniously carved toxic people out. Women AND men.

A few days ago I was out for a walk, and a married ex-friend I don’t associate much with anymore passed by in his car. He honked and pulled over, jumped out with enthusiasm and started acting like GREAT old friends.

2 minutes in, he reminded me of WHY I refuse to associate with him anymore, and gazed down entranced at his phone while I was in mid-sentence. I counted to 3 for some kind of “excuse me”……

Turned my back and walked without a single word.

BrainPilot wrote:

bark it to the vapor trail I left behind.

I didn’t even listen for it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

S~~~ i had something but i had to delete it because of some quoting error its best if i try to address the points i do it in a video style instead.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Anonymous 42]

BrainPilot wrote:

When I made the decision that I would rather be permanently and completely alone than to have to interact with negative people, men who brought negativity were included.

Keymaster wrote:

Unceremoniously carved toxic people out. Women AND men.

Being self employed and dealing with allot of people I learned to equate negative with the people that have no honor and can’t keep an appointment.

People that treat you like your time is worth nothing, it usually goes without say that they’ll treat you like you’re worth nothing.

I don’t “hang around” with my friends, we get together and work on a project or play hard enjoying ourselves going skiing.

I don’t waste allot of time socializing, I’d rather be doing something productive or exciting…

No loosers with allot of baggage and hangups are allowed anywhere near me, I don’t tolerate the stench of mangina breath!

[Anonymous 2]

The idiot that wrote the article doesn’t even know the difference between hikikomori and the MGTOWs of Japan, who are known as herbivore men. Hikikomori (who are largely made up of men, but around 15-20% are women) are people who have locked themselves away, due to intense family and social pressure to get high test scores, attend universities, and get high paying jobs (considering men are expected to be workhorses in a marriage, while women stay home, it’s easy to see why most hikikomori are men). Most hikikomori range from mid-teens to mid-20s in age, but some can be as old as mid-30s.

HERBIVORE MEN, on the other hand, are the MGTOWs of Japan. These are men that watched their fathers slave away at jobs for 80-90 hours a week, only to come home and have to hand their paychecks over to their wives, who would then give them an “allowance” and keep the rest, all the while these men got treated with zero respect. After seeing this as kids, herbivore men wanted nothing to do with this lifestyle, and decided to spend their money on hobbies like playing video games, collecting comic books, playing music, record collecting, riding motorcycles, etc. Herbivores still live their everyday lives and hang out with friends. They simply refuse to play the marriage game because they know it’s a road to nowhere but a life of slavery that lets some woman live a comfy life off your hard work.

If this dumbass did the slightest bit of research, he would know the difference between hikikomori and herbivores. Then again, maybe he does, but being honest about herbivores wouldn’t serve his agenda, so he had to use hikikomori as his example in order to paint MGTOWs as “men who have given up on life”. Nice try, but another fail on the part of ROK.

I don’t know why ROK has such a problem with a group of men that refuse to take part in gynocentrism. Are the men at ROK so desperate for female approval that they would prefer that men take part in the gynocentric system on the grounds that they want men to be the traditional “manly” role? If that is the case, then they are nothing but fools playing right into the hands of feminists and gynocentrism. If these guys are so anti-feminism, then why are they parroting feminist shaming tactics against MGTOW? In the end, we’ll be the ones laughing when they walk out of divorce court with their pants around their ankles, or when they are being taken away in handcuffs after some bitch makes a false rape accusation against them. At the very least, we will be laughing at them for all the money they are spending on women with the hopeful prospect of getting pussy in return, while our bank accounts continue to grow.

Let these idiots keep playing the game. We don’t need their approval, and they are obviously dependant upon the approval of women in order to justify their manhood to themselves. If they want to live their lives as pussy beggars, then so be it. I will just continue to go my own way.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Roosh is basically a cult leader at this point. If you disagree with him on anything then he considers you a “purple pill” heretic.

That guy is trying too hard to change the world. I think that he is biting off more than he can chew.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[Professor ChaosParticipant 489]

ROK is a just another business trying to survive.

They see MGTOW as potential customers…hot leads.

But MGTOW exposes their product is snake oil.

I’d say f~~~ them but I don’t care enough about them to.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

This is funny because the main weapon they (ROK, Tumblrinas, etc) try to use against MGTOW is defamation of character.

You see, if they just ignore what we tell them under the guise that we are trying to “compensate” for some imaginary shortcoming, they can (as Keymaster said), continue wallowing in their own filth.

Because it’s just SOOOOOO unbelievable that SOME men don’t prize obtaining a women’s body, attention, or approval.

We’ve already answered all their “open letters” and “questions” and all their other bulls~~~.

“We don’t prize pussy”
“NO YOU’RE JUST LOSERS WHO CAN’T GET ANY”

“I have other things I enjoy in my life, like my hobbies, my work, etc”
“NO YOU DON’T HAVE DIRECTION IN YOUR LIFE. YOU’RE DIRECTIONLESS AND PATHETIC”

(Disagrees with female in any manner in an agreeable manner)
“YOU’RE JUST FULL OF HATE AND YOU’RE SO BITTER”
And then you have a bunch of white knights and manginas who immediately leap to her aid and agree with whatever the f~~~ she says.

They KNOW and realize they are wrong, which is why they are so adamant in making sure they IGNORE what they see in front of their eyes and will violently attack ANYONE that shows them the facts.

They are only going to take our words, and say the EXACT opposite. So talking to them is a waste of time. Watching them self-destruct, however, is fun.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[BrujahParticipant 579]

A simple reply to anyone taking shots at MGTOW is a simple

“ok”

People who really want answers will do their own digging. There’s a wealth of information out there that will eventually lead to the right sources. “The Red Pill” as it is is already a very common term and it was from that that lead me to MGTOW. ROK and similar places s~~~ting all MGTOW will only fuel attention. Some no doubt will turn their noises based on surface information but the few that dig deeper will find nothing but gold.

What’s important is that content produces and sites like these remain up with a hand extended to receive those who are ready to walk away.

[aeragoanParticipant 1186]

ROK shaming tactics are like toddlers throwing spoons..Are they becoming manginas who want to make woman happy at all cost..lol..

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Keymaster wrote:

We got an email today from a “Tess Tickles”, (yes really) who littered our mailbox with “There’s not one among you with even an ounce of intelligence, common sense or dignity”… even though we have doctors, teachers and pilots here.

And PLENTY of engineers, technicians, and systems gurus ACROSS the world. Seriously, where the hell do these people come up with their ideas?

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Know that it doesn’t matter but why is rok holding grudges against us?

Arent’t we doing a favor to them? I mean every woman we ignore is like another one they get to f~~~.

I preach non-violence, non-co-operation. Greet them with a smile. Kill them with kindness.

This is the how you perform gandhigiri…and its very effective.

In the following video, a man gets p~~~ed off because a person keeps spitting in front of his apartment doorstep. The owner wants to teach him a lesson with violence, but Munna Bhai (devotee of Gandhi) tells him that instead, he should smile at the person and clean his spit right in front of his eyes. This will make him feel ashamed……and really it did make him ashamed.

I really like the gandhigiri method. This might be an extreme example but you get the idea.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Varun wrote:

Know that it doesn’t matter but why is rok holding grudges against us?

Have you ever been “the better man” in a situation before? Have you ever been nice/generous/kind to someone who just doesn’t like you? Have you ever smiled at someone who wears a permanent scowl? Same thing.

They don’t really know why, they just do.

Varun wrote:

Aren’t we doing a favor to them? I mean every woman we ignore is like another one they get to f~~~.

You would think. Great question. But nobody will ever believe Matt Forney would ever “get more tail” because MGTOW.

Fermat wrote:

Seriously, where the hell do these people come up with their ideas?

The only reality which exists for them is their own, and even when they are repeatedly shown to be wrong or misinformed about something, they will maintain their original stance, despite all contradictory evidence —>> NO MATTER HOW COMPELLING.

The feminist/narcissist will twist and distort reality to infinity in order to place themselves at the earth’s center. No amount of objectivity shall be allowed to intefere with this. This is their prime objective, and they will talk any amount of nonsense to achieve it. They don’t care. There is only them, and their prison is a familiar, comfortable zone. It has walls padded with velvety self-deception.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

No love, not hate, no f~~~s given. I propose we do not do anything to give them food for retaliation.

Stonewall them with ignorance!

The only way to win is not to play. No use getting your blood boiled over petty issues like this.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[DDJParticipant 1880]

Well the problem here is that ROK and their allies keep trying to reframe MGTOW as a movement. It’s not. It’s a philosophy. We all go our own way…our support of one another is just being a good citizen in this community…nothing more.

The reason they reframe is so they can pretend MGTOW is some kind of villain then pretend to be the hero in their own narrative. It’s right out of the feminism playbook.

Embarrassing really.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Translation:
I am suffering so much to get women, you being happy not chasing after women make me look stupid. You have to suffer like me to be a man.

I think a large number of PUA are unsuccessful in their career either, because if you are a successful man, you have no shortage of women and PUA skill will be worthless.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 3]

PUA are just effeminate men. That’s the definition of effeminate, was the same through history. Men that obsess over sex, prefer to spend time with women, are concerned with their clothing and appearance and seek “softer” fashionable clothing, and have a certain manner of speaking. If you read a lot, and I have read a lot, you see it show up again and again. That manner of speaking is what they call “game” now, and it’s also a very feminine manner of attacking other men constantly. You see, women have not changed over time, but effeminate men also have not changed over time.

Difference is, society actually pays attention to and “respects” women and effeminate men. That is the issue. This could all go away tomorrow if the State was cut down to size and everyone stopped caring what women said and thought and stopped caring what effeminate men think. Instead both are popularized, glamorized, and their ideas are used to shame and pressure men to be emasculated through most of their best years. Only older men seem to figure this stuff out, and you’ll notice a lot of older men tend not to bother talking much or sharing wisdom. Probably because younger people tend not to listen anyway and will fight it.

Effeminate men have always been very insecure and have hated strong men. While effeminate men chased and pined over women, women instead pined over the strong, strapping, gallant men who couldn’t be bothered to deal with them. You’ll see also MGTOW pops up over and over again, as bachelors or other names, with Emperors and the like exhorting men to marry even though they’d admit women are annoying and no man would willingly put up with them. They also have to try things like taxes, and even that doesn’t usually work so they just usually would go with polygyny to at least get something.

It’s hard for men to even admit they are being effeminate. Most will argue and fight the definition, swearing that their actions make them “manly”. They’ll say something about “high testosterone” or constantly throw the word “masculine” around, screaming about “high sex drive” and trying to get validation and approval from others. That comes from insecurity, and again, that’s feminine behavior. That is what women always do.

The funniest part is women even understand it happened, they do complain that men are emasculated now.

Personally I think we’re beyond the point of no return. MGTOW is a small movement that will grow larger, and it will save those men that become MGTOW. But it will not save those that can’t be saved, and society on the whole. I don’t know how it could be possible to ever counteract decades of feminism and emasculation, both men and women are completely broken.

So let ROK and the other effeminate losers talk in their “safe spaces” and to each other. Remove yourself from these situations and these places, and let society fail. Society decided to pick the wrong horses, but that let the rest of us go free, enjoy the wild instead of wondering what it’s like to be reigned and pulling a cart.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

Just switch off the computer, live your life and go for a walk if anything like this bothers you. Life as a MGHOW is way too awesome to waste time on anything pointless and negative.

[Stan1192Participant 178]

Nothing to see here gentlemen , we walk on.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

MGTOW will be pelted by more and more idiots, but here’s the gold among the ashes … the more people insulting MGTOW, the more people come to MGTOW.com or watch some MGTOW video’s, and even more men will realize what we’re saying is true.

We are the new hangout in town, and no matter how hard feminists, women, and mangina’s try to shield us, more men are coming to check us out. Let them pelt us with cliche’s and insults, they are throwing stones at a tank, and even falling short at that.

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