Home › Forums › MGTOW Central › Robots Could Take Your Job
Tagged: robots
This topic contains 24 replies, has 15 voices, and was last updated by 
Burgundy 4 years, 4 months ago.
- AuthorPosts
New into the first part of my second business course
This topic was brought up and i found it interesting and a little scary also
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06cn1wv/panorama-could-a-robot-do-my-job
This is an important topic for everyone to understand the implications off but especially for younger MGTOW like myself it could mean the difference between going fairly smoothly or fighting to reach retirement/financial independence
How do you think this applies to MGTOW thinking?
I believe the logistics companies will jump on self-driving truck technology as soon as possible, it only makes sense for them to do thisI see in the future that it will be people creating and robots re-creating for the most part
My conclusions from this is to both myself and all the other MGTOW out there is to focus on doing work that a robot won’t be able to replace any time soon such as creative or intellectual kinds of jobs that will harder to be replaced
Some company in Massachusetts are developing robots to find solutions for labor, hollywood seem to get head of this trend………….it was called “I, Robot.”
This company might be next “Apple.” As in huge Profit.
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
Baby boomer mgtows here have been quite confrontational upon the discussion of this subject lol. The issue with your solution is that not all human beings can create the demand in this technological age to be incentivized for their work/opinions/creative skillsets. I do genuinely believe that technology can greatly help civilization evolve, yet the the ruling class does not want this because it would decrease their profits tremendously and make everyday life for the common folk more affordable. A major issue I see nowadays is the top 20% of Americans owning more than the bottom 80%. It seems wealth generally is more inherited than earned nowadays.. Anyways, think for yourself and draw your own conclusions. god bless.
Soon AI will have 100X more computational power than your brain, what will we do then?
Baby boomer mgtows here have been quite confrontational upon the discussion of this subject lol. The issue with your solution is that not all human beings can create the demand in this technological age to be incentivized for their work/opinions/creative skillsets. I do genuinely believe that technology can greatly help civilization evolve, yet the the ruling class does not want this because it would decrease their profits tremendously and make everyday life for the common folk more affordable. A major issue I see nowadays is the top 20% of Americans owning more than the bottom 80%. It seems wealth generally is more inherited than earned nowadays.. Anyways, think for yourself and draw your own conclusions. god bless.
But can robots take this job and shove it? Maybe, if AI is perfected!
I think robots will eventually be employed to a greater extent for, say, food preparation. But purchasing, configuring, and maintaining say, a GE FANUC is very expensive. Historically they’ve been widely employed in only a few industries. I realize costs have come down, but we still aren’t seeing wide adoption outside assembly lines.
I see nothing wrong with the top 20% earning owning more than the bottom 80%. You have to factor age into it. A 20 year old will have little wealth, a 40 year old much more, and a 60 year old even more. I am 45. I banked 1mm by the time I was 30. How? Working continuously for 8 years, saving and investing 80% of my income. Obviously, I avoided the chicas, but also the sports car, and other toys. I earned my engineering degree fast in 4 years. My income doubled in those 8 years. The investments did well. Keep in mind about 1 in 7 families are receiving SNAP and we have a large population that does not work in the U.S. If you build skills, save, and invest, you can still become wealthy. I am still working now but plan to stop at 50 or go part time.
I don’t envy those who have and make more than me; I respect them, for the most part (e.g. 1st generation entrepreneurs).
Inheritance will make me wealthier but that won’t occur until even later in life when parents pass away. That is typical too. So it had no impact. What caused wealth concentration was more the example of parents that lived frugally, saved, and invested. Children often duplicate the success or failure of their parents, not always, but frequently. Education and intelligence is being concentrated because successful people mate with one another and value it in upbringing children (public schools are s~~~). In my opinion that has far more impact than inheritance. Successful people networking with one another also concentrates wealth.
I am not convinced AI will free us from drudgery of mundane tasks; Skynet anyone?
I would disagree about wealth being inherited rather than earned typically and statistics prove that out, as I recall about 6% is inherited.
Statistics would dictate that though the years, wealth is being transferred into the hands of fewer and fewer. As a millennial applying for jobs directly after the housing bubble collapse, I realized that middle class Americans were less affluent than they were previously. Current labor participation rates would further enhance my opinion. Xers and boomers need to realize that each generation has different financial burdens to overcome or gifts to consume (being the offspring of WW2 victors) cough cough. Leading futurist, Ray Kurzweil predicts that artificial intelligence will take well over 50% of jobs in the next 20 years. How do you plan to support yourself and a family on that proposition from a man with an iq of 135?
How about the influx of Indian engineers sailing into this country working for 1/2 the pay of American engineers? I’m positive you didn’t deal with this predicament as much as millennials are currently enduring. One of my business clients is unemployed do to being insourced by Indian engineers, makes my life as an entrepreneur much easier dealing with a plethora of unemployed clients, eh? Different era, different rules, you boomers and xers need to understand this predicament
Anonymous0That was a subject in my younger years in the middle of the 80s when computers came up and the economy in Japan seems to explode because of this “High Tech”
CAD (Computer Aided Design), CNC (computerized Numerical Control), CIM (Computer Integrated Manufacturing). It was interesting and I was very interested in this inventions and never afraid that some machine will do my Job which I will have in the future.
One day, I guess I was a little bit to enthusiastic talking about this, a schoolmate, a natural born loser, confronted me with the question how I would feel if a robot will do my job and I will get unemployed.
I just answered that this will not happen as long as I am building and programming them. The kickoff for my career as an engineer, although I worked in electronic development for years, today I am very deep in IT, Backup and Security. In the Backup field I am going to replace Tape Robots against Disk Storage. In IT-Security Robots are more a hazardous than helpful.
Anyway, I like to look back and listen to the music we had thirty years ago about this subject.
May you like this one, also a kind of MGTOW Art.
Or maybe you know the Movie Runaway from 1984, with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons.
Will the day come when robots and artificial intelligence devices are smart enough to take over? It seems inevitable, doesn’t it?
New AI learns to play chess at international grandmaster level in 72 hours
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/new-ai-learns-play-chess-international-grandmaster-level-72-hours-1520385Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
A robot has taken my job …. 3 to be exact.
Luckily my bosses & the public don’t trust them ….. so I stand guard ….. so everyone can blame me when it goes wrong ☺
For the moment I think robots could replace manual jobs like waiters, truck drivers and so on in few years. People who do intellectual jobs (programmers, engineers, architects and so on) are relatively safe. I believe creativity and flexibility can’t be implemented in a machine for a long time. It has been the same with computer revolution: i.e tasks monitoring or document filing no longer require a lot of people but only few persons with computer skills.
I drive a tank truck today. I’m not saying a robot could not take my job, but I doubt it happening anytime soon; it’s not only about driving, you still have to recognize the type of tank, make an assessment of the risk of overfill, make a decision if you filled everything needed filling (tanks and machinery) which includes abit of thinking and an equal bit of communication with the operators. Not to mention dragging that hose up-down and sideways. It will be years until a robot will be able to do this.
My next goal is nursing. And no matter what, a robot will not in our lifetime be able to give that human-to-human touch, help and empathy.It’s a legitimate concern, but I think robots should take our jobs. Everybody’s. I think we are way overdue for having robots taking care of the necessities of life and letting people work for something more than wage slavery. Without wishing to sound like a Trekkie (because I’m not), like in the Federation – humans work for their betterment, not for money, and the basics, like food, are provided free. We pretty much have the technology now, just not the will.
Ubiquitous 3d printers will change a lot of things, that’s for sure.
For the moment I think robots could replace manual jobs like waiters, truck drivers and so on in few years. People who do intellectual jobs (programmers, engineers, architects and so on) are relatively safe. I believe creativity and flexibility can’t be implemented in a machine for a long time. It has been the same with computer revolution: i.e tasks monitoring or document filing no longer require a lot of people but only few persons with computer skills.
Think again.
The only thing holding robots back is computational power. We are already hitting the end of silicon chips at the moment intel are at 14nm. Once computers hit the magic level of computational power writing a self improving AI should be easy. In fact I think there is going to be a point where computers take everything. There is no way any human could ever hope to compete with an intelligent computer.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
I agree, today it is tougher to LAUNCH; I know individuals in my field that graduated in 2008, and are still not working in a professional position. You definitely have to be more flexible (move across country or even world). You have to more carefully choose a profession that has demand.
50 years ago a man could easily support a family, and high paying manufacturing jobs were available to unskilled labor. Such is not the case today. Global competition, increased material expectations, and high tax rates typically cause both partners to work. I see both genders working as good on the grounds of building skills and work ethic, but that’s just my opinion.
I don’t agree with ‘wealth is being transferred’, as far as I am an *active* participant. Some transfers are passive in that I have no choice; once I work, I must suffer transfer of a significant fraction of income to the State. Put another way, we should identify WHAT process is causing the ‘transfer’. We also need to recognize the pie itself can be enlarged by reducing the size of the State so that economic growth rates increase. Economics should be central to a basic education of all citizens.
I would expect robots to result in lower costs of production. If all the mundane tasks were performed by robots, goods and services would be nearly free. I would argue a future without money might be another possible outcome. I confess to being a Trekkie!
I’ve spent a good part of my career on automation, but chemical process plant automation, I know little of robotics. I have literally automated processes that reduced the labor requirements, many times — pumps, valves, conveyers. Fewer human operators means fewer high-paid manufacturing jobs, fewer errors, and higher quality. But it also means a better chance of plant staying in business and growing, since it increases profits. And it makes US manufacturing more competitive relative to global competitors. So I haven’t lost any sleep over it, but I have certainly thought about the implications.
Self-driving long-haul trucks, East-West, will certainly come soon in the US.
Scandanavian: Yes, monitoring the truck to make sure vent isn’t plugged, changing gaskets on a camlock or quick disconnect if it’s worn, confirming the right material is loaded/unloaded, inspecting the vehicle, are NOT something that I expect robots to take over soon, unlike the long-haul driving on interstates. If the Chemical industry could do it economically, all of our Operators would be replaced by robots. It’s an industry used to high capital investments and that has low labor costs, so spending a year’s pay for a robot to take over an operator, would be a no-brainer IF such a robot existed.
The economy wasn’t exactly great in the 1990’s when I graduated; half of my colleagues didn’t have jobs upon graduation. Yes, boomers had it easier in the marketplace. But I found something after a few months, had to move for it. India produces many good engineers. Allowing them into the US has mixed results; it will lower my salary, but increase productivity (since employers pay less). Economics is not a zero sum game. My gain is not necessarily your loss, because total GDP can increase (the size of the pie, if you will). Let’s say the cost of salary for my profession halved, that might actually result in INCREASED economic output. Firms could hire more of us, and do projects with lower rates of return. Yes, we’d have less spending money to inject back into the economy, but I’d argue it’s hard to predict outcomes of the invisible hand.
Being the offspring of an intact nuclear family gave me HUGE advantages. I lived at home so college cost almost nothing. Also bear in mind, even 20 years ago, the cost of my education, was about 1/3 what it is now at a State school. So I am aware of all those realities handicapping the youth.
Even so, I don’t relate to the low market employment participation of youth today; in my case, I worked as a lab technician with no benefits, for a few months until I landed a position. I would have worked in such a position full time, gradually building skills and moving up, had I not landed the better position — otherwise I would have had a blank resume turning employers off. I would NOT have dropped out of the labor force entirely, to me, that’s economic suicide unless you are a driven entrepreneur that can work independently.
I see nothing wrong with the top 20% earning owning more than the bottom 80%.
I agree 100%. Here’s an interesting article if anyone is interested….
http://news.discovery.com/human/life/millionaires-120722.htm
They claim 86% of millionaires are self made, their average net worth is 3.05m, and their average age is 61. So who exactly is this top 20% freeghost thinks is a problem? Its the old guy next door who lived below his means and invested consistently over his life, or quite possible your parents, your grandparents, or probably even some of the guys posting on this forum.
Heck at my last job I was making 40k a year and when I left there I had about 30k cash saved up, equity in a property, and a two year old car owned outright with no payment. Another guy I worked with was making the same 40k at that job, plus working 2 side jobs, so was probably in the 50-60k range. We were both single and had no kids. Last time I talked to him he was renting a room from a friend, had a huge car payment, s~~~ credit, and was working on paying off 30k worth of various debts he had accrued.(consumer, back taxes, and a trailer park suing him for unpaid lot rent) If I run into him in 20 years, and he’s not still in debt, I’ll be worth 1000x what he is worth. Is it somehow unfair I made good choices and he made poor choices?
It seems wealth generally is more inherited than earned nowadays..
If I want to leave all my money to my kids if I have any, some friends, maybe some neighbors who look after me when I’m old, charities, or a pet who might out live me…newsflash for you…ITS MY F~~~ING MONEY I CAN GIVE IT TO WHOMEVER I WANT. Don’t cry because you aren’t getting someone elses money, and the government shouldn’t be in the business of confiscating someone’s life work when they die. What does it matter if I’m handing over 100 dollars, 100k, or 100m…I worked for it, I earned it, and I already paid my share of taxes on it over my life time.
Look at it this way…if you save and invest your whole life, and end up with 5 million dollars saved up for your retirement, and die 1 day after you retire and never get to spend that money, are you going to leave it all to the government in your will? Hell no you aren’t, and if you say otherwise you are a bulls~~~ liar. You are going to want to leave it to your spouse/gf, kids, nieces, nephews, friends, grand kids, charities, etc. If you died with 50 million you would be wanting to do the same.
high tax rates typically cause both partners to work.
For most of our nations history we didn’t even have an income tax, and these liberals are whining 39.6% isn’t enough.
I don’t agree with ‘wealth is being transferred’, as far as I am an *active* participant. Some transfers are passive in that I have no choice; once I work, I must suffer transfer of a significant fraction of income to the State. Put another way, we should identify WHAT process is causing the ‘transfer’. We also need to recognize the pie itself can be enlarged by reducing the size of the State so that economic growth rates increase. Economics should be central to a basic education of all citizens.
I posted this elsewhere on the forum, but it reminds me of a conversation I had with some coworkers at work a couple weeks ago. We were bitching about how much our state sucks, as we live in one of the higher tax states in the country. One guy…literally one breath after he gets done bitching about living in a high tax state, says he wants to vote for Bernie Sanders next election. I just face palmed. He hates living in a state with high taxes, yet he wants to vote for the candidate who wants to increase federal spending by more than any other candidate?
I look at it like you do…if the government takes less from us, we all can do more for ourselves. Middle class folks are forking over 1/3 of their income to the government, then turn around and cry they can’t afford x, y, or z. Well s~~~…maybe if the government was only taking 1/4 of your income you could afford that vacation or that car that you want, or set a little more aside for retirement…do you really think voting for someone who wants 1/2 your income instead of 1/3 is going to improve your life? Its just going to end up getting redistributed to other people/corporations or wasted on dumb s~~~ you’d rather not see money be wasted on, because that is what our government loves to do!
I don’t envy the youngest generations entering the work force right now. Retirement will most likely not even be an option for many people. MGTOW does significantly help a man in reaching retirement, though, for obvious reasons. But, when considering retirement people need to really take into consideration the instability of the market and how 401ks really aren’t that reliable. That mixed with the reality that defined benefit pensions have become impossible to get outside of government work, and you have an environment of people who will never be able to retire. Most people spend more than they earn, and that is a big problem if your goal is to retire. People buying iPhones and expensive plans when they could just as easily get a $9 cell phone at Walmart are for the most part living outside of their means. A minimalist lifestyle is probably the best way to eventually reach retirement.
Robots are going to replace many workers, no doubt. They are probably going to eventually replace girlfriends, too, lol.
Not my one, i am actually the one who makes robots 🙂 Software engeneers FTW! 😀
- AuthorPosts
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
921526
921524
919244
916783
915526
915524
915354
915129
914037
909862
908811
908810
908500
908465
908464
908300
907963
907895
907477
902002
901301
901106
901105
901104
901024
901017
900393
900392
900391
900390
899038
898980
896844
896798
896797
895983
895850
895848
893740
893036
891671
891670
891336
891017
890865
889894
889741
889058
888157
887960
887768
886321
886306
885519
884948
883951
881340
881339
880491
878671
878351
877678
