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I was thinking lately about Islam and the way it is gaining momentum. More than that i think about Islam in the context of western social rapture/decay
What i can think of is that Islam will be like a magnet for lots of unemplyed young man/men that are rejectetd by the mainsream (we all know that men are regarded as crew expandable)
It is a dangerous situation. We have a huge percentaje of males that went their own way – see herbivore japanese males. These individuals most likely will not present some sort of oposition to Islam. In the end they are aliens in their own social strucutre so why should they care
Also we have lots of males that are angry about the western social norm and will find in islam their way. These individuals can become rather agressive
In a not too distant future i think Islam will help western world imploide from the inside. And i dont see white knights and nawalts taking arms and defending western values/states/towns etc etc
As a proof of what i say – in UK they have Sharia courts and even non muslim men go there to solve legal problems
Yes, I agree. Islam can be a very preferable outlet for male aggression, especially for those men who’ve been f~~~ed. But then again, we can be wrong. Maybe men will take matters into their own hands rather than taking refuge in a questionable religion. I remember seeing a poster here who was very aggressive in stating his violent opinion, he was deleted.
We can’t predict the future. It’s mostly futile to even try.
Anonymous12Islam is supported oddly enough by the Left. The Left want to see the destruction of the Western World, Christianity and the “White Patriarchy” , so far they support Islam a means of hurrying up the destruction of Western culture.
I would suspect that once Islam has served it’s purpose you will see the tide turn against it before it gets too big for it’s boots, you could argue that is already happening. The Middle East is in turmoil which is the base of Islam.
I think what will happen in coming generations is Muslims will leave their religion, the current generation are hardcore but the ones being born now and later will be looking at it a lot differently. Very similar to what you see with some young women who are rejecting Feminism in various ways, many of them don’t want the whole Superwoman myth of career, family, husband etc and just want one or the other.
Some men have joined ISIS whether they be Muslims or converts, we had one young man from Australia a few months ago who went over and joined up, he had a death wish and was literally “fast tracked” through suicide bomber training because he was in a hurry to kill himself. I also read an article which I posted in the politics section about how some young Muslim men are joining ISIS because ISIS allows them to have sex before marriage, I am skeptical if that is all there is to it to be honest but regardless ISIS would be like a boys own adventure in a way.
I also don’t see Islam as being particularly male orientated, they still want men to get married, have lots of kids and of course then you have to work to support the kids, Islam was also the first religion to allow divorce and also allow women to initiate it. I don’t see that as MGTOW.
You have a very valid point. The younger men who have been indoctrinated in the feminist way ….. have NO outlet for their youthful energy. Not in school, work place or any other place.
If that energy is not ‘guided’ and put to good use ….. they will end up at what is attractive …. A CAUSE….for they have none here in the West.
It is the fembots that are breeding the new terrorist’s …… and that is what you get for f~~~ing with nature. You try turning boys in to girls ….. and here is the result.
The angry young men will fight and the pussy boys will roll over and die. Then my darling girls and women …… who will you look to for help?
Have a think about that on your next slut walk.
Islam is supported oddly enough by the Left. The Left want to see the destruction of the Western World, Christianity and the “White Patriarchy” , so far they support Islam a means of hurrying up the destruction of Western culture. I would suspect that once Islam has served it’s purpose you will see the tide turn against it before it gets too big for it’s boots, you could argue that is already happening. The Middle East is in turmoil which is the base of Islam. I think what will happen in coming generations is Muslims will leave their religion, the current generation are hardcore but the ones being born now and later will be looking at it a lot differently. Very similar to what you see with some young women who are rejecting Feminism in various ways, many of them don’t want the whole Superwoman myth of career, family, husband etc and just want one or the other. Some men have joined ISIS whether they be Muslims or converts, we had one young man from Australia a few months ago who went over and joined up, he had a death wish and was literally “fast tracked” through suicide bomber training because he was in a hurry to kill himself. I also read an article which I posted in the politics section about how some young Muslim men are joining ISIS because ISIS allows them to have sex before marriage, I am skeptical if that is all there is to it to be honest but regardless ISIS would be like a boys own adventure in a way. I also don’t see Islam as being particularly male orientated, they still want men to get married, have lots of kids and of course then you have to work to support the kids, Islam was also the first religion to allow divorce and also allow women to initiate it. I don’t see that as MGTOW.
agree with your first point – the retarded left (who are always well off white people and their kids) want an end to Western culture that has made everyone’s lives so comfortable and want some socialist paradise. Pretty dumb as they will be the first to be purged if that ever happened but that is the left for you
on the second point I disagree – muslim immigrants used to intergrate until the blair government under orders from the eu opened up the uk borders to destroy the natural conservative base (happened across all Europe) and now their numbers are growing they are getting more and more radicalised. It is a long discussion that is for another day but the bottom line is it will all end in tears one day and I hope I am around long enough to witness the destruction and seeing all the dumb feminazis who want rid of the white man stoned in the streets for not covering up their ankles when they go out. If/when it all does kick off they will want people like me who they have shat on coming to their aid….no chance
this excerpt from:
“While seven out of 10 Americans still identify with a religion, the number professing ‘no religion’ has grown to 56 million, making the ‘nones’ group the second largest behind evangelicals.”
It seems to me that atheism/agnosticism is actually the fastest growing “religion” (at least in America). I personally think this is one of the few healthy trends that I see in America these days. Admittedly, that is probably because I am an atheist myself; but, it seems that youth turning toward a logic based belief system in any part of their lives may give them a chance of at least noticing the red pill hiding among all the blue.
I think the number turning to Islam is sensationalized by the media and it seems many that do join Islam do it as a sort of protest against Americas foreign policy (or maybe just to p~~~ off their parents). I think the latter is the most likely.
"You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength."
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”
-- Marcus Aurelius, MeditationsI dont trust islam and their followers one bit.
I know there is a hidden agenda along those lines. If you asked a muslim if they want sharia Law they’d say ‘no’. Which I cant help but believe that its a front.
If Sharia Law was implemented in UK and the US and asked the same muslim the very same question, they’d say ‘yes’.
9/11 and 7/7 were tragic and not one Muslim said a word in their on defence or condemning those acts. In fact it was everybody else defending islam who weren’t even following that religion that spoke out for them. “If they kill people then that doesnt make them muslim”. (wheres my middle finger at?)
Nobody can strip you from being muslim or catholic or whatever.
ISIS for example – we got politicians saying they aren’t true muslim when the middle-east is where it mainly originated from and they kill people in the name of islam. Political correctness can only deter the unplugged mind for so long.
On another note, here in UK its been on the news that they Apparently found a copy of the quran pages in Birmingham city under some library archive and say that its over 1300 years old means its the oldest Quran and they’ll go on and claim that islam may be intertwined in british history(watch this space).. Which again sets off my BullS~~~ alarm. If anybody knew anything of british history would know that its all bulls~~~.
Its almost like britain is getting primed and ready to be taken.
I dont trust islam and their followers one bit. I know there is a hidden agenda along those lines. If you asked a muslim if they want sharia Law they’d say ‘no’. Which I cant help but believe that its a front. If Sharia Law was implemented in UK and the US and asked the same muslim the very same question, they’d say ‘yes’. 9/11 and 7/7 were tragic and not one Muslim said a word in their on defence or condemning those acts. In fact it was everybody else defending islam who weren’t even following that religion that spoke out for them. “If they kill people then that doesnt make them muslim”. (wheres my middle finger at?) Nobody can strip you from being muslim or catholic or whatever. ISIS for example – we got politicians saying they aren’t true muslim when the middle-east is where it mainly originated from and they kill people in the name of islam. Political correctness can only deter the unplugged mind for so long. On another note, here in UK its been on the news that they Apparently found a copy of the quran pages in Birmingham city under some library archive and say that its over 1300 years old means its the oldest Quran and they’ll go on and claim that islam may be intertwined in british history(watch this space).. Which again sets off my BullS~~~ alarm. If anybody knew anything of british history would know that its all bulls~~~. Its almost like britain is getting primed and ready to be taken.
that is a good spot actually – I saw the story this morning and never made that connection. I suspect the BBC will be the first to run with that
I suggest reading the Koran. Most libraries will have a copy, and there is not likely to be a waiting list. Start with Sura 9. Islamic scholars instruct us that Sura 9 abrogates (their word) all the others. Therefore, if you find conflicts within the Koran (it could happen), Sura 9 wins out over the others.
The other two holy books of Islam are worth a read too. Their culture has an interesting take on dealing with women, gays, public education, and voting for political leaders. There is much to learn.
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Anonymous12agree with your first point – the retarded left (who are always well off white people and their kids) want an end to Western culture that has made everyone’s lives so comfortable and want some socialist paradise. Pretty dumb as they will be the first to be purged if that ever happened but that is the left for you on the second point I disagree – muslim immigrants used to intergrate until the blair government under orders from the eu opened up the uk borders to destroy the natural conservative base (happened across all Europe) and now their numbers are growing they are getting more and more radicalised. It is a long discussion that is for another day but the bottom line is it will all end in tears one day and I hope I am around long enough to witness the destruction and seeing all the dumb feminazis who want rid of the white man stoned in the streets for not covering up their ankles when they go out. If/when it all does kick off they will want people like me who they have shat on coming to their aid….no chance
It was similar in Australia, when I was at school we all saw ourselves as Australian regardless of where we came from, our religion etc in the last 15 or so years there has been a shift away from unity and more about being divided.
I’m not a fan of Islam however if it came right down to it, as a White Heterosexual Male who does have spiritual beliefs I would be treated rather well if I converted and even if I didn’t. I would convert if for no other reason than to be able to point and laugh at the Feminists and other idiot Leftards who would be getting rounded up in the streets ready for trial. For a bunch of people who are mostly Atheists they really aren’t considering how non believers are seen in Islam, a Christian or a Jewish person would have a higher standing than someone who denies the existence of God altogether.
On another note there are statistics that suggest Islam is the fastest dying religion which is why the Islamic world is in such a panic at the moment to try and overwhelm and convert.
Much of Europe is on track to become Muslim Caliphates in the next 25 to 30 years. I expect they will destroy much of the history of Europe. Russia will remain. China will remain, as will India. United States will remain predominantly Christian as the Latino’s replace the whites. Within 200 years there will be no more whites except in Russia, Iceland and a few other areas.
I imagine that’s the plan for the leftist feminists. Leave it to them to keep shooting themselves while giggling how empowered they are.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
I suggest reading the Koran. Most libraries will have a copy, and there is not likely to be a waiting list. Start with Sura 9. Islamic scholars instruct us that Sura 9 abrogates (their word) all the others. Therefore, if you find conflicts within the Koran (it could happen), Sura 9 wins out over the others.
Surah 9:5 to be precise. Also regarded as “the verse of the sword”. But there are many killing verses that abrogated any of the earlier peaceful verses. 9:29 is another one that is cut and dry.
There are many abrogated verses in the quran, which in itself suggests contradiction.
For a bunch of people who are mostly Atheists they really aren’t considering how non believers are seen in Islam, a Christian or a Jewish person would have a higher standing than someone who denies the existence of God altogether.
On the subject of abrogation, this as well is not something muslims are actually allowed to follow.
During the early part of his rise to power, mohammad had no army and no followers. So he spoke softly, and didn’t yet have a big stick (army). Later, after he gathered an army and became a conqueror, mohammad said muslims were not allowed to take Jews and Christians as friends or protectors, and that if any muslim should do so, becomes one of them. Which obviously means it’s an offence bad enough to have them ostracized and then killed to even take a Christian or a Jew as a friend, unless they are using taquiyya, which beasically means blatantly lying in order to deceive. Jews and Christians are called “the most vile of all creatures”. The only reason Christians and Jews would ever be allowed to live under sharia law, is if they pay the Jizyah, which is a humiliation tax and basically classifies them as not much more than domestic animals really. They’re maintaining their faith, but are totally under sharia law regardless of their paying the submission/humiliation tax. So it’s intended to degrade. Christians and Jews are called pigs and moneys, referred to as “najis” or dirty/filthy.
Christians and Jews are actually singled out and specifically hated by ‘allah’.
Much of Europe is on track to become Muslim Caliphates in the next 25 to 30 years. I expect they will destroy much of the history of Europe. Russia will remain. China will remain, as will India. United States will remain predominantly Christian as the Latino’s replace the whites. Within 200 years there will be no more whites except in Russia, Iceland and a few other areas. I imagine that’s the plan for the leftist feminists. Leave it to them to keep shooting themselves while giggling how empowered they are.
yep and it is them who will suffer at the end of the day but they are too short sighted and stupid to see it
Anonymous3I prefer Islam over Western gynocracy. I would prefer it even more if they probably didn’t want to kill me. It is kind of rough, side with the country that hates my guts because I have a penis and discriminates against me at every turn in favor of a parasite gender, or side with the guys that want to slit my throat but will at least come after me directly and let me know they want to kill me.
Do I live as an obsequious second class citizen, or die with some pride intact? Honestly, as a man, as one that still believes in the Constitution and the ideals of the Founding Fathers, I identify very closely with “Give me liberty or give me death.” The sad and pathetic part is it is my own government that I make this statement to.
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The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
Anonymous13Islam is supported oddly enough by the Left. The Left want to see the destruction of the Western World, Christianity and the “White Patriarchy” , so far they support Islam a means of hurrying up the destruction of Western culture. I would suspect that once Islam has served it’s purpose you will see the tide turn against it before it gets too big for it’s boots
You and I began a short conversation on this Morlock. I believe “the left” will run out of minions able and willing to conduct genocidal operations, and the culture that remains the most male dominant – and/or patriarchal (“male dominant” and “patriarchy”able to be substituted completely and interchangeably in my opinion) will prevail – in the grand scheme. It is ironic – the aware, and if those who are aware look even closer at this conclusions began to emerge, much like those which you effortlessly came to. I believe it is more complicated than that – I believe soft kill programs exist. Science and technology have made leaps and bounds, this is not paranoia and common sense, keeping up with technological advancements and the dynamics of how they work and can be applied in the physical world while also keeping up with politics is imperative to understanding the end game of many policies and social trends.
Follow those wielding the power and operating at the helm of politics and having crony relationships with top silicon valley firms – software and computer hardware companies – robotics and cybernetics research and development firms, google, related companies and international corporations with defense contracts – etc etc. These relationships need to be watched – you made great points – and in the end “man power” is not needed – and the goal is merely to diminish it – to kill off the populations of the earth in their entirety leaving a smaller slave class only. With the technology, its innovation, our global economic power – all being consolidated into fewer and fewer hands – while the rate at which innovations and progress being nearly proportionate to such political and economical power consolidation is very very important here. Star trek-like tech is not that far – and most of it has or is being realized today – imagine these genocidal social engineers keeping and using that power. Sociological – psychological manipulation aside – the power behind merely likes and contortions of the basic facts of life and humanity pale in comparison to the technology those same social engineers and agitators have been using for soft kill and slow social changes and individual brainwashing – drugging – frequency induced emotional and mental manipulation. They can herd us where ever they like.— DELETED —
why? They are the only country in the region where you are free to live. They are also responsible for loads of technological advances and are always first on the scene of any disaster around the world
the left hate Israel so that is reason enough to like them
Anonymous13What i can think of is that Islam will be like a magnet for lots of unemployed young man/men that are rejected by the mainstream (we all know that men are regarded as crew expandable) It is a dangerous situation.
I agree. Its a recipe for disaster…but we are ripe for it, it takes a HUGE tragedy for people to wake up and unite under a truly just cause.
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why? They are the only country in the region where you are free to live. They are also responsible for loads of technological advances and are always first on the scene of any disaster around the world the left hate Israel so that is reason enough to like them
Israel is the rising star of nations. The only democracy in the Middle East. The left hates Israel because it’s existence is contrary to the left’s evil agenda.
Allahu Snackbar.
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