Revisionism of patriarchy

[miawmiawSpectator 81]

Hello everyone,

Freedom does not always make sense. Does it make sense to say “free the dog from his master” or “let’s give more freedom to wild animals” ? . Sometimes i wonder if patriarchal societies weren’t really cruel against women but just had a better understanding of female nature. A man naturally gets violent when he sees this wild smile in his wife’s face that suggests his next child might not carry his genes, and something has to be done to keep society functioning properly. I am not here to promote sharia law or something similar but just asking : Is the essence and spirit of such rules really evil?

-Impose dress code on women (Limit the possibilities of using their charms to seduce men because they abuse such freedom, is the burqa a very bad idea?)

-Put value on virginity (a motivation for the man to devote himself, who wants a used toothbrush? )

-Define circles from which the woman has to choose her partner (clan/tribe honor, because their hypergamy instinct makes them all follow the wrong men )

-Marry girls young (14, 15 and consume the marriage later, not for the sake of pedophilia, but before their hormones start dictating nasty things to them)

-Limit their interaction with men (separate schools,separate areas in public because they tend to play too much in mixed environments)

-Punish adultery with severe laws (not for the sake of blood, but to dissuade from the crime of cucking a devoted man and destroying families)

-Consider sex as an obligation in marriage contract just like the man has an obligation to support and protect the family, it’s cruel to leave a married man unsatisfied

-Limit women to part-time jobs with other women and acknowledge that it’s their role to take care of home and children(except the wise or talented women who always existed in history)

-Allow men to use moderate violence (Sometimes they wake up wild)

-No child support if the wife marries another man

-Any similar examples?

I love MGTOW comments as usual 🙂

[Anonymous 25]

It presupposes that society was patriarchal.

I don’t see it that way and the facts suggest otherwise. Historically, both men and women reached an agreement based on the conditions at the time to enable the species to work together and survive.

Women may have given men benefits (and vice versa) but men provided consideration for those benefits, they went to war and fought and died to protect women and children.

Women tore up the social contract and called it patriarchy, now they want men to still uphold unilateral terms and protect women from invaders like in Cologne. Tough, women have provided no benefit for men to do that and with how they persecute men today, women can go fight and die to protect themselves. Not our job

Women are only now starting to wake up to this

[Anonymous 0]

miawmiaw wrote:

I am not here to promote sharia law or something similar but just asking : Is the essence and spirit of such rules really evil?

I don’t want to be women’s overseer. I don’t want to have to monitor their clothes, their virginity, whom they date, what age they marry, what jobs they take, beat her up when she steps out of line, etc. Are you really suggesting that I’m supposed to give a s~~~ about all that? I can’t imagine anything more horrible than having to follow women around and monitor everything they do.

Let them do whatever the f~~~ they want, as long as they don’t involve me in it. I just want to go my own way and not have to worry about what’s going on in their squirrelly little brains and lives. I just don’t give a f~~~.

Leave them to their own devices, and maybe someday THEY will figure out a way to make the marriage contract more attractive to men.

[Anonymous 16]

I disagree with almost everything.
i have my own list allow me if you migth.

1) Dress code for men and women too (like the amish). just dress like normal people, no need to go naked around… i think. except on beach.
or let everyone go naked problem solved.

2) WTF breaking a virgin is a pain. Virginity mandatory? for men too rigth?
3) Define circles from which the woman has to choose her partner… WTF hell no, i dont like certain types of women. f~~~ no.
4) Marry girls young…14 wtf are you insane? how about making legal age for conscent over 20. Soo you get in a lot of problems if you have sex before 20 (be men or woman).
5) agree on ceparated school but not in public.
6) Punish adultery with severe laws i agree, both men and women even if its just one nigth stand with no cuckholding, you lose all rigths over your kids, are forbiden to marry ever again and the cheated spouse get all the privileges be men or woman. Also the third party gets to pay the afected one for the damages caused. If the men wants to restablish his own honor a fist figth is allowed with no legal consecuences (like we used in old times).
7) Consider sex as an obligation in marriage contract just like the man has an obligation to support and protect the family. hummmm how about you can only marry and have kids when you already sorted you life out. (cant marry if indebted or got nothing to bring at the table). unless you accept the contract willingly, you come in with nothing you leave with nothing, and kids stay with the breadwinner.
8)-Limit women to part-time jobs with other women and acknowledge that it’s their role to take care of home and children. disagree, most of my colleagues are women, and they are exceptionall doctors, even my ex wife is a great doctor wich i respect as profesional. But she just is a s~~~ty person. I know very inteligent women (a lot) great doctors but whores non the less.

9) Allow men to use moderate violence (Sometimes they wake up wild) NO NO NO NO. if you touch my sister or my mother i f~~~ing reap your head off i s~~~ down your troath. No one should exert violence over another person as a mean of control. thats monstrous. If you hit me, i hit you back, thats ok. but you cant just hit people couse they “misbehave”. If you wanna figth me challengue me, and we figth to death if you want.

10) no child support i agreee.

11) I CALL TUNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. THAT OR ONE OF THOSE MUSLIM FREAKS.

[Anonymous 1]

miawmiaw wrote:

Hello everyone,

Freedom does not always make sense. Does it make sense to say “free the dog from his master” or “let’s give more freedom to wild animals” ? . Sometimes i wonder if patriarchal societies weren’t really cruel against women but just had a better understanding of female nature. A man naturally gets violent when he sees this wild smile in his wife’s face that suggests his next child might not carry his genes, and something has to be done to keep society functioning properly. I am not here to promote sharia law or something similar but just asking : Is the essence and spirit of such rules really evil?

-Impose dress code on women (Limit the possibilities of using their charms to seduce men because they abuse such freedom, is the burqa a very bad idea?)

-Put value on virginity (a motivation for the man to devote himself, who wants a used toothbrush? )

-Define circles from which the woman has to choose her partner (clan/tribe honor, because their hypergamy instinct makes them all follow the wrong men )

-Marry girls young (14, 15 and consume the marriage later, not for the sake of pedophilia, but before their hormones start dictating nasty things to them)

-Limit their interaction with men (separate schools,separate areas in public because they tend to play too much in mixed environments)

-Punish adultery with severe laws (not for the sake of blood, but to dissuade from the crime of cucking a devoted man and destroying families)

-Consider sex as an obligation in marriage contract just like the man has an obligation to support and protect the family, it’s cruel to leave a married man unsatisfied

-Limit women to part-time jobs with other women and acknowledge that it’s their role to take care of home and children(except the wise or talented women who always existed in history)

-Allow men to use moderate violence (Sometimes they wake up wild)

-No child support if the wife marries another man

-Any similar examples?

Being a MGHOW this isn’t something i am concerned with at all. I have no interest in imposing any of the above and why would I? i’ve walked away from it.

we could discuss it hypothetically, but it still holds no value for me.

I dont agree with any of your points, anyway. We’re not running a nursery for women and I have no desire to impose rules on one half of the population because they can’t be trusted.

[Anonymous 16]

True, i shouldnt care, but somehow i do.
Couse i think this is not about women… its about society.
I actually dont care, i mean im 32 gonna live to 80 maybe, got no kids, aint gonna have kids, my sis also said (helll no) to kids, so my family is done for.
Future is yours and your kids… i have no geneticall future.
But this is a nice debate subject…. still i call tuna or radicall muslim.

[Anonymous 42]

This society is f~~~ed every way to Sunday!

I’m certainly not looking backwards as this vehicle we call society tumbles end over end ejecting all the passengers! I’m just a flying passenger looking ahead and hoping I can nail a good landing over the guardrail and into the water!

F~~~ EVERYONE ELSE, THEY’RE ON THEIR OWN!

FATAL f~~~ing CRASH!

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Nope nope and no. The patriarchy (if it ever f~~~in existed in the first place) was always a raw f~~~in deal for men AND women.

The only thing to ACTUALLY do is hold them accountable for their damn actions. TRUE equality. That way people can do whatever the f~~~ they want. They would also pay the price for screwing up. Anything else is a waste of time.

Get that illogical thinly veiled litter box dug up bulls~~~ out of here. None of that s~~~ you just spewed is anywhere CLOSE to being MGTOW.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Only a feminist or mangina believe that the “patriarchy” benefit the men more.

Throughout history the “patriarchy” make men die in war and keep the women safe. Throughout history men have to work in dangerous or unpleasant places like the mine, construction site, army, cargo ship (olden days seafaring is dangerous), rubbish collection, sewage. And men have to provide for women and suffer for women mistake. It is always a men fault, or men responsibility to clean up women mistake.

What is needed is to get big government out of marriage contract so people have to be responsible for their choices.

Want to be lazy at home while I toiled at work? Fine but make sure you are faithful, keep my stomach full and ball empty, teach my kids to respect me instead of hate me via lies. If not there is no alimony, child support while I kick you out.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[BoarParticipant]

Tuna Troll.

This post was only designed to cause division amongst members. It is heartwarming to read the following posts and see that most MEN did not take the bait.

In the meantime, OP you need to swallow the red pill. We are NOT here to fix society. Study the meaning of the phrase, ‘never going back to the plantation’ for all its implications.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[Anonymous 54]

Was someone trying to trick us into saying we think it’s good to have sex with underage girls,and be violent towards Women? Oh you almost tricked us!

Now F~~~ off bitch.

[Anonymous 1]

miawmiaw wrote:

-Allow men to use moderate violence (Sometimes they wake up wild)

miawmiaw wrote:

-Marry girls young (14, 15 and consume the marriage later, not for the sake of pedophilia, but before their hormones start dictating nasty things to them)

Yet another village missing their idiot.

I suppose someone, somewhere got a night off.

[DauntlessParticipant 403]

TUNA ALERT!

"To live is to suffer; to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[Anonymous 54]

Do not debate the pros and cons of this idiotic post.

It is designed to get us to fight,while they watch and laugh.

Oust this motheef~~~er.

[miawmiawSpectator 81]

I reject all accusations and i won’t reply to insults.

If i understand correctly you are afraid feminists see this post and call MGTOW pedophiles and wife beaters?

[RoyDalParticipant]

miawmiaw wrote:

Sometimes i wonder if patriarchal societies weren’t really cruel against women but just had a better understanding of female nature.

Not much to wonder about here. Search the history books and try and find just one successful civilization that was a matriarchy.

Let’s concede that the Amazons were not mythical. Now, name one more.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 16]

miawmiaw wrote:

I reject all accusations and i won’t reply to insults.

If i understand correctly you are afraid feminists see this post and call MGTOW pedophiles and wife beaters?

we are gonna be called everything, we are called everything, peter pan, basement dwelers, losers, gays, abnormal… soo why not add pedophiles, wife beaters ohhh add nazi too, homophobes since we there.

The question is… why are you here? you said MGTOW… meaning you are not one of us… why are you here?.

now i think about it guys… i feel like ghandi, pacifist aproach. Let them hit, the harder they hit the faster they get tired.

[Anonymous 3]

Get out of here cat lady!

Didn’t you read my post? It was written BECAUSE OF YOU!

And if I had a little doubt, that is gone. You and your dishonest kind force us to suspect everybody new.

You are a lying, manipulative, dishonest person. You prove all the points we make here.

You achieved the opposite of your goals. We proved to be better, you proved to be the worst.

GET OUT! Get back to your cats.

[HitmanParticipant]

Reeks of fish.
Fish eat bait, not us..
Sorry. .
Tuna / Troll…

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

C’mon man, I highly doubt anyone here would like your suggestion to marry a minor, then beat her up. That would be f~~~ing bats~~~ insane.

Just sayin ! Also it’s better not to marry anyway.

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