Requesting advice: Academic qualifications for finding work overseas

[rironParticipant 45]

Hi all,

I have a question to people who are well-traveled: how critical are academic credentials to “transferring” your professional expertise overseas, as opposed to actual technical skills?

Firstly, about me: I am a young engineering contractor/freelancer, which I very much enjoy. This allows me to avoid most of the bulls~~~ of regular jobs (among which include not having to subsidize female co-workers, more flexible tax writeoffs, and being able to totally bypass HR) and I recommend all MGTOW go the self-employment/freelancer route.

I am also fairly highly educated (Engineering Master’s degree), and work in a research lab in addition to freelancing, but for complicated reasons do not have any publications suitable for my education level. I am also debating getting a PhD, but am unsure, and even doubtful I can get into a program without any publications. There’s also a fair amount of bulls~~~ in academia which I don’t really like.

However, I have not found this to be a problem, as being a contractor people really only care about my skills and my portfolio, and don’t really pay too much attention to my degrees or academic papers. The problem is, my job security is highly dependent on my reputation in local circles, and my professional network.

I am worried that if I attempt to move to another country (which I will almost definitely do, especially if I need to abort if things get too bad here in the west) my contracting reputation will not be able to help me, and, lacking any papers, people will dismiss my research experience. On the other hand, maybe other countries will be similar to America, where academics care a lot about academic credentials, and private companies looking for contractors only care about portfolio and hard skills. However, rather than assuming that, I figured I’d ask people more well-traveled than myself.

Cheers

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[Anonymous 1]

I was a contractor to the government…you wonder every 12 months if you are going to be unemployed (if the company doesn’t get a new contract). I feel ya. Here’s a suggestion. Notice the number of pages at the bottom. Great job security. Pick a spot.
https://www.usajobs.gov/Search/?k=engineering&p=1

[Nags4CashParticipant 1163]

You should also look into work visa’s for other countries. If you are in an in demand field they will gladly give you visa’s with the most direct line to permanent status.

Just to clarify, their are visa’s specifically for in demand, high skill, jobs in most countries.

Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

It is great that you have a good education but work experience is king no matter what country you go to. Your academic qualifications put your foot in the door that is all nothing more. There are thousands of people like you looking for work at any given time. Unless you are doing PhD work or are in a academic setting trying to get a doctorate I would not worry to much about the academic stuff.

If you have experience in any country and people can confirm you worked on certain projects you will have no problem finding work as your reputation will travel globally. Most large engineering jobs are done on a global scale with many players from different countries being hired to do certain jobs. Depending on what type of work you want to do there is plenty of opportunities for someone in your field. Some countries may ask you to get recertified in their country if you decide to become a permanent resident, something your new company will help you navigate through. If you plan on working for yourself build up a website and offer your services stating what you have accomplished to date.

If you have a proven track record you will be fine just NEVER under any circumstances lie or overstate some of your accomplishments as people will eventually find out you did so. If you are honest, hard working, and have a good clean track record you can go to any country and make a decent living. In the current global climate I would stay away from China as they are ramping up getting rid of all their foreign workers. Do some research ask around and visit the country before committing to it if you can. The locals will have a good understanding of the climate.

There are also Youtube videos with people going through the same thing you are going through right now just type the country of interest (example: Foreign worker in China) and see what the people who are doing what you want to do have to say. Doesn’t matter what field they are in you have to get a feeling for what is going on in the country regardless of jobs being done. Learn from their mistakes not yours and you will do fine.

[rironParticipant 45]

Thanks.

I was a contractor to the government…you wonder every 12 months if you are going to be unemployed (if the company doesn’t get a new contract).

I only recently realized I shouldn’t call myself a contractor since it causes people to misunderstand:

-mis-represented contractors (probably what you were working as) have s~~~ job security and lower pay than regular employees, but all the downsides (eg. HR). If it wasn’t the government I would suggest you try suing your employer since this is a violation of US employment law.
-freelance consultants (we get paid via 1099 so legally we’re categorized as contractors) are basically small-business owners, we build a portfolio, find our own jobs, work on our own time, etc. The job security starts off as complete s~~~, but if you’re good, in a couple years people are lined up to pay you far more than regular employees, in addition to not giving you any bulls~~~. One of them gives you bulls~~~, you still have other clients.

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[rironParticipant 45]

Nags4Cash wrote:

You should also look into work visa’s for other countries. If you are in an in demand field they will gladly give you visa’s with the most direct line to permanent status.

Just to clarify, their are visa’s specifically for in demand, high skill, jobs in most countries.

Just wondering, are you determined to be “high skill” based on job experience or academic degrees? Or I guess both? Is the determination made by the government or by private industries?

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[rironParticipant 45]

It is great that you have a good education but work experience is king no matter what country you go to.

Thanks. Makes me feel much better.

Do some research ask around and visit the country before committing to it if you can. The locals will have a good understanding of the climate.

planning a trip to Asia (HK/Singapore/Shenzhen/Thailand) next year for this reason. (Also I’m ethnic Chinese and have relatives in China so I don’t think I’ll have issues there, but I’ll network around before I go.)

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[General RipperParticipant 101]

I would avoid any job with the government as listed on USAJobs. Federal jobs are the very definition of blue pill hell, in every aspect.

If you want to go overseas, I suggest you look into jobs with U.S. companies that are contracted to do jobs OCONUS at U.S. installations. Sure, there’s less job security, but the pay is almost always better, and there are opportunities to make that money tax-free should you stay out of the U.S. for more than 330 days of the year. Find a company that will sponsor you for a security clearance, and you’ll be golden.

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