Repost of some MGTOW Gold. Sorry not Sorry.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

It may be bad form to repost previous posts. But this is just too good to leave in archives with the hope someone might stumble across. It is a sincere observation from “Learning” almost five years ago:

“I wanted to take this opportunity to write to all of those young guys who are ‘in love’ and happen to make it here.

Unfortunately, most of you will not make it here. That’s because you are under a spell. But I really hope some of you will.

I am a married guy, married with two kids. I fell ‘in love’ 12 years ago in college with a very good looking girl and I then went on to marry her and did all the things that are required of a good man. I did all of it, earned a lot of money (I used to be a hedge fund trader until six months ago), and finally I got made redundant.

And then, reality started to show.

After a lot of fights, it is becoming clear to me that a future together is only possible if I find another high paying job. But what I have realized during this time of joblessness is that a life without responsibilities is actually quite fu​cking good. Why the hell would you want to sign up for a life where all you do is work your ass off so that your partner/wife/girlfriend can spend it? And if you don’t, they will make you feel guilty? Seriously?

The problem isn’t you… you are fine, you are a hard working guy who makes good money doing whatever you do.

If you decide to sign a marriage contract you are fu​cking yourself…literally.

Did you ever dream of walking down the isle when you were a kid? No, you dreamed of being an astronaut or a sports legend or the fu​cking President etc. Only girls dream of getting married and having kids. So when you get married, you only fulfill one persons’s dreams.. yup that’s the girl. And that trend will continue… you will basically spend your life fulfilling her needs while you get one blow job a year.

That, my friends, is what marriage is going to be like.

Don’t do it. Please, don’t do it.

My life is fu​cked and I’m cutting my losses and dealing with it but you don’t need to do it.

If your girlfriend looks like she is the real deal, then fu​ck her, get her to suck your dick, because once you sign that contract, you aren’t getting any fun anymore..it’s over. It will be done just to keep you going. Face it, women only want to trap a man, that’s basically it, sometimes it is for money, sometimes it is because they find a nice guy who treats them nice. But it is NEVER a mutually beneficial relationship.

So please, I don’t want to bore you with my life’s problems. I just want to warn some of you so that you don’t fu​ck your life up. The biggest problem most men have today is that they think their current girlfriend is ‘not like that’. Well, in time, you will see.

Good luck.“

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

Brainpilot’s reply to “wife” is gold:

“To your wife: I’m one of the fortunate, securely employed single men out here that you may think you can replace your husband with. But, I and my similarly situated single male brothers are not. We see women like you all the time, especially when there’s economic instability… 30 something and 40 something single mothers with champagne tastes and beer keg wages looking for the next man to support you. It’s like a conga line. I can bounce from one of you to the next week after week and never get to the end of the line. Why would I adopt you and your bills? You think you’re special? What do you have to offer me…?… every other weekend when you don’t have your kids? Aside from the line of other divorced single mothers behind you, there is a near unlimited supply of childless women younger and better looking than you… all also looking for a man with a job. You don’t like going to the gym? Too bad. You’re going to need to like it in order to keep up with those younger women. You don’t like blow jobs? Too bad. You’re going to learn to like them again, only this time it will be for a man who doesn’t care about you nearly as much as your husband does. You don’t like waiting tables? Too bad. Go to Denny’s at 3am tomorrow morning and see who’s waiting to take your order… It will not be a man like your husband. It will be a woman whose child support ran out, who overestimated her own marketability, and who wishes she still had one. Your husband is the only man who’s ever demonstrated a willingness to earn for you. At this point, you are in NO position to believe you can find another one.“

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

Brainpilot’s advice to Learning is spot on:

“You have skills and experience and a work ethic that you can use to feed yourself for the rest of your life. What will she have? A divorce settlement and child support… This is not enough. Child support does not last forever. She can pay bills with a divorce settlement, but probably not forever. What will she do for money to pay bills in about 20 years when the child support has long since run out? This may seem like a long way off, but it IS coming and it IS inevitable. Remind her of that…

You won’t be financially killed by a divorce if it happens. You will still have the ability and skills to earn, even if the opportunity is temporarily unavailable the way it previously was. That will pay bills, that will last for the rest of your life, and you will not have to wait tables at Dennys at 3am in order to do it. She’s the one on the dead end path, not you.”

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Brain Pilot’s merciless truth! In the manopshere, there’s regular machine gun red-pills, and then there is Brain Pilot’s anti-aircraft, red pill missiles. LOL. Smoking single mother’s treacherous intentions like Migs being blown out of the sky! Fvcking hoes

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3756]

Great posts.

Yeah, BrainPilot’s posts are always brilliant.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

Gravel Pit wrote:

In the manopshere, there’s regular machine gun red-pills, and then there is Brain Pilot’s anti-aircraft, red pill missiles.

Great analogy! Haven’t heard from him in a while, hopefully he comes by sometime to drop a few red-pill smart bombs.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[BubParticipant 1403]

CPT Obvious wrote:

while you get one blow job a year.

If your lucky

I haven’t had one of them since the day I asked “ let’s get married”.
I guess What she heard was “I never want head again.”

Just rolling down the road

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

Bub wrote:

I haven’t had one of them since the day I asked “ let’s get married”.
I guess What she heard was “I never want head again.”

Dude. That is just wrong. Usually there is at least the birthday BJ…

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

“You won’t be financially killed by a divorce if it happens. You will still have the ability and skills to earn, even if the opportunity is temporarily unavailable the way it previously was. That will pay bills, that will last for the rest of your life, and you will not have to wait tables at Dennys at 3am in order to do it. She’s the one on the dead end path, not you.”

There’s a reason why divorced men are much happier than married men.

And divorced women are unhappier than married women. Not that they actually matter since they are not our problem.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I don’t get here everyday like I once did, but I’m still around. And I remember that post. When I read the original, it was a day or two after I had stopped at a Denny’s at a truck stop in the middle of the night way the hell off in the middle of nowhere someplace. The graveyard shift waitress bringing me my order that night looked like a decades older version of my ex wife, and inspired me to wonder if that’s how my ex ended up, or will end up someday.

Decades ago, the day my divorce was final, I took a sort of inventory of what I had, and what I had lost. The lost list was longer. But I had my truck, my clothes and one month’s rent in my pocket. I had my education/training/skills, and I had my job. I had my health (physical and also mental now that the ex was gone), and I had my unshakable work ethic, my saving/spending discipline, and the examples of other, older men who’d demonstrated the value of saving and carefully investing over time. It’s the closest I’ve ever come in my life to being hungry or homeless. I was broke, but I was not broken.

That was decades ago. The following weeks/months/years, I paid the rent, kept working, took all the extra work I could get, invested the money… over and over and over again. I once went 42 days in a row without a day off. I’ve done multiple years in a row without any sort of vacation. I’ve worked 84 hours in a single week, and 30 hours in a single shift.

Today, I live in a paid off house and have a financial advisor telling me I can retire anytime I want. I still work part time, but my career is a hobby now. I have no need to save anymore, so I spend whatever I make on toys and travel. I’m looking for some tropical country to completely retire to in the next few years.

Every now and then, I still find myself at a Denny’s in the middle of the night somewhere ordering up breakfast and OJ from another version of my ex wife. My order usually costs about 10$, which makes the tip about 2$. I pay her 2$ to go to the kitchen, bring me my food and clean up the table when I’m done. That’s what she’s got to offer me. That 2$ is exactly what that service is worth, and that’s exactly what she gets.

To put this in perspective: when I was married, I once put a couple grand in my wife’s checking account because she’d expressed an interest in going to college and then going to law school. She was smart enough to have done it. But she blew that money taking her kid to an amusement park and a mall, and never showed up for registration.

She could have owned a Denny’s by now. That was my plan for us to someday be that wealthy, and she put a missile to it.

Even though it’s now decades later, I still get an occasional phone call from a debt collector or repo man looking for her. Apparently, they kept my phone number from the checks I wrote to pay her bills back during our marriage. I have no idea where she is, but when they ask, I tell the debt collectors to check at their local Denny’s on the night shift, smile a little, and then hang up…

🙂

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Brain Pilot’s merciless truth! In the manopshere, there’s regular machine gun red-pills, and then there is Brain Pilot’s anti-aircraft, red pill missiles. LOL. Smoking single mother’s treacherous intentions like Migs being blown out of the sky! Fvcking hoes

HOLY S~~~ this is a monster!!!

MGTOW AKBAR

[Gravel PitParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

divorced men are much happier than married men.

I hate when people randomly claim that relationships make you live longer and better health etc…. They just recite this crap with no source and no idea… yet when you look at real data, you see that men live longer and report being happier when they arent married. Society just bold face lies about everything…

Great thread, glad to see Brain Pilot found a minute in his busy schedule (full of serious stuff) to come here and grace us with some motivational words. PEACE upon you this Xmas man.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Agree Gravel,
Even if it were true that married men live longer, who the hell would want to? If I ever got drunk or stupid enough to get into that trap again, the sooner I die, the better…! 😛

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Gravel Pit wrote:

I hate when people randomly claim that relationships make you live longer and better health etc…

They’re lying with statistics.

Consider: every male baby that dies in infancy died unmarried. As did every teenager who died young after “borrowing” the keys to his dad’s car and liquor cabinet. All those young “unmarried” male deaths artificially drive the average down.

Meanwhile a never married man in his 50’s can expect at least a decade more life looking forward than his 50 year old married schmuck counterpart. Funny how that never seems to get mentioned when they’re trying to get you to take a woman off the taxpayer’s support.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

BrainPilot wrote:

I don’t get here everyday like I once did, but I’m still around. And I remember that post.

Ha, that is great — we get the backstory on that post. Good stuff.

BrainPilot wrote:

the day my divorce was final, I took a sort of inventory of what I had, and what I had lost.

Been there, done that. At one point after getting my checking and savings cleaned out by soon-to-be ex (with checks just written en route), I was truly broke. After my second divorce, my net worth was literally 0.

Yet, 8 years later, I have recovered with some hard work then, now and in future. Sure my retirement will not be nearly as fat as it should have been, but I will be fine.

Both exes are struggling from what I have heard. And when debt collectors knock on my door about my ex-GF, I hand them a copy of the eviction letter and say “not my problem anymore.”

Life is so much better.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

BrainPilot wrote:

If I ever got drunk or stupid enough to get into that trap again, the sooner I die, the better…!

Gawd yes, put me out of my misery. With my last GF I was so miserable, I was literally drinking myself to death.

As Hermit recently mentioned, you get to the point in the marriage where life with her is so bad you just don’t care if you live or die.

I have talked to several friends who are at or near this point in their married life.

It’s so fu​cking absurd. Women have the power to either make a man happy or miserable. To give him exquisite pleasure or extreme pain. Over time women almost always choose the latter, creating an environment of misery. It’s like her natural state.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

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