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Anonymous2I’ve noticed that after feminists, the biggest man-haters out there are religious organizations. In fact, every article on the marriage decline that I seem to come across that is written by a writer of a religious blog or website seems to do nothing but parrot feminist shaming tactics. This is just one of many, many anti-male religious articles out there telling men to “man up” and get married:
It’s all the usual shaming tactics : “Men are selfish, men are lazy, blah, blah, blah”. Seriously, what’s the deal with all of the religious organizations and their man-bashing? Well, if I were to write an honest response to these writers, it would probably be instantly deleted, because it would tell the “God’s honest truth” (pun intended). Here is why religious organizations side with feminists and bash men:
1. Taking a traditional stance on the issue is political suicide.
Religious organizations in western society don’t want to deal with the horrible backlash and criticism they will receive by saying that BOTH MEN AND WOMEN should live up to their traditional gender roles. Instead, they give women a free pass and say that MEN are to blame for not living up to their traditional gender roles. Nevermind the women that don’t know who the father of their child is because they f~~~ed 15 guys in 3 days. Nevermind the women that divorced their husbands because they “got bored and were no longer happy”. Nevermind the women who block fathers from access to their children. Nevermind the gynocentric courts that will reward women who cheat on their husbands (a big no-no in religion). None of that s~~~ matters at all! It’s men that are to blame!
2. Religion relies on their members to reproduce to grow in size and power.
When your followers don’t reproduce, your membership numbers go down, and as we all know, less members = less money! That s~~~ can’t happen! Of course, under the old laws, people were expected to get married as soon as they reached adulthood, and divorce was not allowed by the church. It pretty much guaranteed continual growth in membership.
Now, women are free of their traditional gender roles, but religious organizations still want men to be held to theirs. What is their answer to men not wanting to enter into the s~~~ deal of marriage or play Captain Save-A-Hoe for the c~~~ that popped out 5 kids with 5 different fathers? Shaming the men, of course!
Maybe, like women and the government, religious organizations are going to have to learn that shaming men because they refuse to be treated as disposables is going to do nothing but drive even more men away and into the arms of MGTOW.
Keep up the shaming tactics! Let’s see how well they work! Have fun going the way of the dodo bird, just like marriage!
Anonymous3I remember a few decades ago, feminists insisted religion was “misogynist” and all of it was just an excuse to oppress women.
Now fast forward to today, where they’ve infiltrated religion and co-opted it, and suddenly women are busy pretending they are spiritually superior and are in a position where they can dictate to men.
It hearkens back to a time when the clergy would not allow the people to read scripture so that the clergy could just steal and dominate the people for non-religious gain. Eventually the people did start to read and understood the clergy were no better and were in fact lying and wrong.
Nowadays people won’t read the scripture themselves, and again are back to just listening to what someone else tells them.
Point blank, I’ve said it again and again, all the major religions have mentioned female nature and have put constraints on it. Not a one believes in “equality”. That is a feminist, modern Western idea. All religions operate on a hierarchy with men at the top, with women ordered to obey and submit. You will not find any mainstream religious organization of any denomination in the West that will actually talk about this. Instead they will talk about how well they treat women, as if that is the sole reason God put men on Earth, and the single greatest achievement any man can do in his life.
God is gone, atheists are more honest about their disbelief, while most religious people are hypocrites about it because they pick and choose what they want to follow and don’t actually believe in God’s wisdom.
I would say reason 2 is the biggest one, after all, main drive for these institutions is power & money. They can’t shame women because of PR reasons , since bad publicity could hurt their memberships wnd thus, their pockets. Besoides , as one of the laws of power says, you have to bring a good theatrical show, having people and media critizing a religious performance because you don’t abide to ginocentric rules will result on the worse advertisement your religious organization can uave, so you will end up with no rep, no members, no money and worst of all no power.
"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”
Agreed. I was raised a a Christian but I eventually abandoned it. I am now a new age spiritualist. I worship nature gods that I contacted all by myself.
There are plenty of religious people out there who will talk about how “wonderful” it is to get married and have kids. They will usually blame the lack of marriage on “neckbearded atheist manchildren”.
Modern women are cheating, lying whores. The religious folk hardly ever mention that.
This problem exist in all religions but it is most common in Christianity and Westernized Buddhism. When I talk about “Westernized Buddhism”, I’m talking about the feminized hippie s~~~ that throws The Eight Garudhammas into the trash.
Look it up. The real Buddha was alpha as f~~~.
This is why so many young men are abandoning religion in favor or atheism or spirituality.
MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot
Anonymous42I saw this s~~~ starting in the early 1980s’!
Now most religions are in lockstep with gynocentralia in some blue haze smog that has them believing the laws of man are from GOD and that men must OBEY these LAWS.
They’re cooperating with the feminized federal overlords, and that makes them a tyrannical part of the machine as they go in the opposite direction of scripture, preaching that men should serve women, when in all fairness equality would dictate it should be women serving men to makeup for their weakness in pulling life’s heavy laden cart.
I say Let the cart go and crush them if it may…
Anonymous2I remember a few decades ago, feminists insisted religion was “misogynist” and all of it was just an excuse to oppress women.
Now fast forward to today, where they’ve infiltrated religion and co-opted it, and suddenly women are busy pretending they are spiritually superior and are in a position where they can dictate to men.
It hearkens back to a time when the clergy would not allow the people to read scripture so that the clergy could just steal and dominate the people for non-religious gain. Eventually the people did start to read and understood the clergy were no better and were in fact lying and wrong.
Nowadays people won’t read the scripture themselves, and again are back to just listening to what someone else tells them.
Point blank, I’ve said it again and again, all the major religions have mentioned female nature and have put constraints on it. Not a one believes in “equality”. That is a feminist, modern Western idea. All religions operate on a hierarchy with men at the top, with women ordered to obey and submit. You will not find any mainstream religious organization of any denomination in the West that will actually talk about this. Instead they will talk about how well they treat women, as if that is the sole reason God put men on Earth, and the single greatest achievement any man can do in his life.
God is gone, atheists are more honest about their disbelief, while most religious people are hypocrites about it because they pick and choose what they want to follow and don’t actually believe in God’s wisdom.
That’s pretty much what drove me away from religion, too. It expected everybody to be blind followers and not question anything. It was full of hypocrisy and double-talk, and they expected you to let them have it both ways and not call them out on it. You didn’t care question their leaders or point out their false claims, nor did you call out all the horrible things that were condoned by their holy book.
I guess you could say it reminded me too much of…feminism.
Anonymous24Ah, the rewards of being an Atheist pays off once again with no f~~~s given in regards to what comes out of the mouths of yet another group of delusional people.
Religion has been used to further the agenda of the State since the inception of Governments. Noting new.
In all honesty, I have no f~~~ing clue why any man would want to enter into a three way contract that involves a woman and the State when the State clearly favors the woman. Absolute insanity. The reality is the Government should have absolutely zero to do with marriage, and I mean zero. Never should have been a ban against gay marriage, never should have been rewards for getting married, never should have been any State involvement in marriage whatsoever. Separation between Church and State should exist, it clearly doesn’t on many levels…This issue like many others is just another tool of the State to gain power. And right now both Church and State are beginning to s~~~ themselves because men are turning away from being slaves.
The feminists have totally co-opted the church. Remember, they are the ones who spend the money. Who do you think fills the coffers?
I was in training to be a minister and I walked away in disgust. A large reason was the misandry that is rampant in the Church. They will tout what victims whimyn are while nailing men to the Cross.
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
I trained my dog to bite religious people.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow. The kingdom of heaven is within." -Funkadelic
MGTOW has brought me more “hope” than religion ever did.
That being said, I think that MGTOW is compatible with nearly every religion unless you are a fundamentalist.
The only religions that are totally incompatible with MGTOW are racist cults (such as Wotan and Yakub Islam) and feminist spirituality.
The feminist spiritualists have ruined Gaia by turning her into a feminist icon. The ancient Greeks never saw Gaia as a feminist icon. Furthermore, the Greeks were the biggest “misogynists” in the entire ancient world. Why do some feminist hippies bow before a Greek deity? It makes no goddamn sense! Jesus Christ!
MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot
I’ll go with #1 Murph. I first encountered the concept of ‘social justice’ many years ago, in church. Back then it was ‘feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, caring for the sick’ etc. No racial or gender issues. Yet. How that all changed as women were allowed into positions of power… now every parish is run by a woman (under the title of ‘pastoral associate’ or some such thing), irrespective of the guy out the front. Now churches will only say what is politically correct to say. They follow where they should lead.
Anyway, he gives 5 reasons men aren’t getting married – all 5 are shaming language blaming the men, none even consider the state or nature of the modern woman might be an issue. Or society, for that matter.
This ‘minister’ might want to contemplate that the best way to follow Jesus is, like Paul, to imitate him and remain single. ALWAYS has been.
Anonymous2Agreed. I was raised a a Christian but I eventually abandoned it. I am now a new age spiritualist. I worship nature gods that I contacted all by myself.
There are plenty of religious people out there who will talk about how “wonderful” it is to get married and have kids. They will usually blame the lack of marriage on “neckbearded atheist manchildren”.
Modern women are cheating, lying whores. The religious folk hardly ever mention that.
This problem exist in all religions but it is most common in Christianity and Westernized Buddhism. When I talk about “Westernized Buddhism”, I’m talking about the feminized hippie s~~~ that throws The Eight Garudhammas into the trash.
Look it up. The real Buddha was alpha as f~~~.
This is why so many young men are abandoning religion in favor or atheism or spirituality.
Very true. Buddha taught that pleasures of the flesh would hold one back from happiness, as they are only temporary moments of satisfaction, and will ultimately only lead to suffering because expecting sex to keep us in a state of happiness is delusional. It’s like a drug. When your body experiences it, it feels great, but when you come down, depression follows.
He left his wife because he knew he could not not expect sex to keep him happy, nor could the life of a prince being able to have whatever he wanted, and found enlightenment instead. Few women can understand this because they are too caught up in greed and delusion. Too held down with concerns of money and material possessions.
Buddha’s teachings are a great philosophy to live by, but you have to remove the eastern cultural superstitions and feminized hippie s~~~ that try and tie their beliefs in with his teachings (often obscuring them) and get to the heart of what he really taught. I consider him arguably the greatest philosopher that ever lived.
Anonymous3Anyway, he gives 5 reasons men aren’t getting married – all 5 are shaming language blaming the men, none even consider the state or nature of the modern woman might be an issue. Or society, for that matter.
This ‘minister’ might want to contemplate that the best way to follow Jesus is, like Paul, to imitate him and remain single. ALWAYS has been.
Indeed. That’s a good point. So what’s the solution? That all these “loser” men should just suddenly be ashamed and get married as a result of being told they are losers? I still don’t really see how that works.
I mean I’m wired differently. You talk s~~~ to me, I talk s~~~ back, and usually take it a step further and threaten to knock your teeth down your throat. So far nobody has been dumb enough to actually stay in my face when I get that far. They usually back off and pretend they were “joking”. Always with the “joking”.
I guess that’s the thing though, I’m from a different era. Millennial men are mostly pussies that cry and whine that someone is saying something mean to them. That violence is for thugs and mean people. Whatever, I’m not the one who starts things, I only finish them. Don’t want me to be violent or mean? Then show me respect to begin with—many people know this, some need it beaten into them.
I’m a diehard Christian, but unfortunately still use the word f~~~. I’m a nuclear bomb at church. I go to all the men’s meetings, and they are run mostly by manginas telling you to kiss your wife’s ass. Well, I have never stood for that kind of s~~~, worse now. I go into all the scriptures men vs women, not cherry pick like they do. Church has been feminized beyond description. I tell them, yea, get married like they do in the bible by going into a tent with your woman, but don’t be dumb enough to enter into the secular contract. Really, it’s great fun. They are scared s~~~less of me that I’m going to turn over tables like Jesus…. Even been told I have a rebellious spirit……that gave me an opportunity to convert more men. Wife’s, as you can imagine, don’t like me too mutch neither do the single girls, I wallet block them every chance I get. Also, the leaders always ask for money and their next sentence is : the Lord will give you back ten fold”. Last time I stood up I said, then you should be giving us money so it comes back to you. Good fun, that’s all I got
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Why does anybody, religious or otherwise, feel the need to keep complicating matters that could not be more simple?
Men are avoiding marriage because women seldom marry out of love. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Yet we’re constantly bombarded with “Why men are avoiding marriage” s~~~ online, nearly every article contradicting the one before it. For Christ’s sake, go search for an issue that actually has some kind of relevance to the world.
A woman might say, “But this is relevant, many good women out there are getting no love!” Well I thought that women didn’t need men?
To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell
C, the church has been completely taken over by vagina. I can hear them chewing on the apple during the sermon
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Same as the rest of the west, as you know. Just purse slapping my brotha
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Churches don’t get paid to tell the truth, they get paid to make the congregation feel good. If the church leadership doesn’t give the Bible a modern “interpretation”, then the congregation will feel that “God is calling us to join another church family”. If I were a religious man, I would study the Bible at home and find other Christian men outside of the church for fellowship and evangelical types of activities.
Churches don’t get paid to tell the truth, they get paid to make the congregation feel good. If the church leadership doesn’t give the Bible a modern “interpretation”, then the congregation will feel that “God is calling us to join another church family”. If I were a religious man, I would study the Bible at home and find other Christian men outside of the church for fellowship and evangelical types of activities.
Big bingo. That’s what I do, then go to church to start s~~~. Got a good possy going too, all men. Biker, rockstar, ex frogman etc
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
The comments at the end by readers explains everything.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
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