Relations with Other Redpilled People

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Is it possible to hate other people in the manosphere and still be a valued member of MGTOW? I’ve had this attitude towards a lot of considerably redpilled people and I just wanted to get this thought out of here. Someone like edog, I think, who quit this forum hated the people on here. Not that I hate anyone specific on here, but just in a general sense.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Absolutely.  I’ve talked about this on several pages, including this one.  There’s something about people that call themselves “red pill” but not “MGTOW.”  They include the complete PUAs or MRAs.  They say they’re not a PUA or MRA, but they shame you if you can’t “get laid.”  It reminds me of those annoying jock guys that would pick on you if you were a virgin or they’d call you “gay” if you didn’t choose to date.  Hated ’em all because they “took the red pill,” so they knew that men were disadvantaged, but they still chose to worship women and put themselves in competition with the men around them to be “top dog.”

[RoyDalParticipant]

Yes, Megachris% says it for me.

Full disclosure: I have given up on hating people; that requires more self-destruction than I am willing to take on these days, but there are many self declared red pills with whom I disagree in their personal goals and objectives. Two examples are PUAs and MRAs. I do not hate them for choosing to live as they do. I just do not follow their lead — I have my own way.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

RoyDal wrote:

Yes, Megachris% says it for me. Full disclosure: I have given up on hating people; that requires more self-destruction than I am willing to take on these days, but there are many self declared red pills with whom I disagree in their personal goals and objectives. Two examples are PUAs and MRAs. I do not hate them for choosing to live as they do. I just do not follow their lead — I have my own way.

That’s more exactly what I was thinking, too.  I meant more to say I hated their mindset, not the person themselves.  Drives me nuts.

[foolsgoldParticipant 5663]

I was that “jock”. I was different because I didn’t like women because of their behavior. I had teammates even at the pro level that Mega Chris% described. They chased women and they didn’t have to. When you had that status they would come up to you one right after another. All I did was wait for one to come up then choose what I was going to do. It’s been over 20 years since I’ve been done playing pro ball. I still wonder to this day why my teammates were chasing women when all they had to do was wait. Good call, Mega.

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

Different people, a lot of different paths, different opinions, if every one starts shouting, “their way is the only right way”, there is obviously going to be clashes, when in reality, there needs not to be a single clash of opinions, other than word of advice, like “hey pal, I think there’s a cliff down that road, be careful”.

But yeah red pill and mgtow are probably two different things, in the end. I know personally, I was first a “red pill idiot jock”, before I matured some more and was MGTOW.

 

That Edog fellow went rather on a ideology crusade though, didn’t he? As he didn’t like people having different opinions on the subject at hand, or calling him out on his double standards?

[mackiavelicParticipant 226]

i never managed to hate anyone ; well not for long at least. usually i take such people out of my life and ignore them

[FermatParticipant 3478]

I certainly do not hate other members of the manosphere who are “red pill” and boast of getting laid. I actually feel sorry for them. They are addicted to vagina and that drives them. They are still functioning members of society and I’m sure have good jobs, great friends, and are overall good people. But they are broken inside without women and have to use the “red pill” as a coping mechanism to disguise their addiction to pleasing women for the sake of sex as “using women for what they are meant for.” All that communicates to others is: “I am a top alpha male with all the b*tches! Hear me roar!” It really has no merit outside their ego. Sex has enslaved them while tricking them into thinking they are free. Don’t hate these guys. Be thankful you’re not one of them.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[UntamedParticipant]

I don’t pay much attention to these things. To me it’s too petty to trouble myself with. I don’t know what’s PUA or MRA are yet but it’s not stopping me from doing what I want so I’d rather live and let live as long as they’re not in my face with it.
As far as the red pill guys who criticise or belittle, it’s nothing new anywhere and will always be. I don’t spend much time on that either. I’m done trying to understand others, it’s a thankless undertaking. I understand myself, that’s what matters. The rest is maybe, perhaps and if I feel like it.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[FermatParticipant 3478]

@survivor Ever heard of the Lake Wabegon effect? A social bias where everyone believes their experience is the exception to the rule, that they are above average. aka illusory superiority? That’s essentially what happens when a man engages in friends with benefit contract. I’m certain there exists men who can still preserve their dignity in the presence of vagina, the same way their exists men out there who can memorize pi to 10,000 places. But just like the NAWALT argument, there are too few for it to be a legitimate reason to pursue such a path. Relationships with women do change a man in more ways than one, physically, socially, mentally, emotionally, and often spiritually. Just because they don’t become “simpy from excitement” doesn’t mean they are holding frame. There always internal struggles for more intimacy, or more gratification, or more time, or more commitment, or mixed emotions, mixed feelings, etc. That’s what happens in sexual contracts like FWBs. No one reads the fine print. That’s why 99,99%  of them don’t make it out the same way they came, and few make it out better than they came. To conclude, yes these men who are champions where no woman’s sexual aura can change an iota of their personality exist, but not enough for other men to follow pursuit.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

I.respect.others.opinion about.mgtow definition but.im consider.myself.a mgtow because.one.i dont date and 2 i dont believe.in.marriages becauses.if the danger.of.it with.that.being said ,i do like.pussy and i do f~~~ women.on.my.term  i guess.im fit.more.into.that red.pill category, sorry for my spell guy

[Anonymous 5]

Joining this site I was incredibly angry hate full person. I am not surprised how many fellow brothers don’t enjoy my post’s. Am just really new to this and you hit some speed bumps along the way. I am still learning what is means to be a member here and step by step for better or for worse am grateful to be here back from someone has found this area on the web- Even if it is to my dislike. Gray Fox not only do I like Metal Gear Solid with dieing passion. But that character – man thats a man who put it all on the line.

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