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Okay guys. Now we formerly married with children refugees can understand when I say that MEN commit to a situation with our whole heart and resources. All too frequently it’s someone else ensuring our commitment, but when we are vested, we are in it to win it. Sort of like getting drafted when the enemy is at the gates. We don’t want to sacrifice most everything but, s~~~, better me than that 32 year old pussy that lives with his mother because, well, they have a special bond.
Alright. Now my ex-wife and I first went to counseling before we had our first child. Some (most) of you will say that this was the first indicator that perhaps I should have contemplated an alternate life circumstance. Noted. But, as I said earlier I was in it to win it. What the f~~~ IT was, I can no longer remember. But IT never showed the f~~~ up.
Anyway, our counselor was one of those types in didn’t let his clients talk to each other. We had to express our feelings, concerns, and issues to him. He would then in turn address the other client and say, “would you care to comment?” I had fantasies, in which I used my turn to talk, by method acting my frustrations, while using my ex-wife as a………..
So, after about 6 sessions, we, my ex-wife and I, came to an accord in which we both agreed that we were not making progress. We further agreed that we should find another counselor. I know, I should have considered an alternate life circumstance. I got it. Jeeez!
Just to review. Our communication skills are nonexistent, there has been no sex in our relationship for months, I am stressed out from a training assignment as an army medic instructor that leaves me dog tired most of the time, and I have verbally told her that I am beginning to second guess the wisdom of our getting married. Imminent foreshadowing here. I will explain this later.
Not three days after our last counseling session, and having agreed to find another counselor, my ex-wife initiates what I thought was spontaneous sex in the living room. Afterward I got up and started finding my clothes. I noticed that she had grabbed her knees and had pulled them upwards to her chest while laying on her back. I asked why she was doing this. She replied that it was helpful in insuring impregnation.
Now I am flabbergasted with her imparting her working on getting pregnant. So much so that I am at a loss for words. I say nothing and take a shower. It’s obvious that I’m not happy with the current situation and, she does the wisest thing that she could do. Stays quiet.
Years later, when our youngest is still a baby, we are in marriage counseling yet again. I brought this particular issue up. I stressed that she made a life altering decision without discussing it with me first. She asked why I didn’t say anything then. I responded with, “Why is it that I’m required to ask if you could you get pregnant? You’re the one with the pussy. You know when your pussy is fertile. Why didn’t you say “I’m getting pregnant today?” What the f~~~ was I supposed to say? Go douche. Go get a morning after pill. Get an abortion. Would you have done any of those things? You made a decision without any regard to what I wanted. This has been your behavior from the start. Especially now that we have kids, I am trapped in a relationship with a woman that thinks little to nothing about what it is that I need or want. Pushing a baby out of your vagina is more important than anything else, including a long-term, stable relationship in which a child or children can be raised, you adolescent f~~~!”
About the imminent foreshadowing. Telling your woman that you are thinking about jumping ship in no way motivates her to get her s~~~ together. It motivates her to get pregnant in order to save the relationship. The illogic of adding stress to an already stressed relationship, in which the husband can’t stand the sight of his wife seems to elude those that possess ovaries. It also allows them to continue carrying on with their bulls~~~, because the husband is distracted with the baby.
Don’t trust the pussy! Ever!
I just thought I would share this particular episode, and will share others on the basis of whenever I get around to it. From experience comes wisdom. Try to grow wise on the travails and tribulation of others so that you don’t have lighten your wallet to become the sage on the mountain top.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
MEN commit to a situation with our whole heart and resources.
Yes, that is what we do.
It motivates her to get pregnant in order to save the relationship.
Yes, getting pregnant (for whatever they think are their reasons) is what they do.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I just thought I would share this particular episode…
You sir just spared me from writing the EXACT SAME story. If I change the “we both agreed” to “I realized” and “living room” to “kitchen” I can copy/paste your story and say it’s mine. Brothers indeed. This exact thing happened to me. Damn it! I just hope guys get to read these posts before it’s too late for them too.
The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
Your experience and advice are well received. Women general don’t care what a man thinks or believes as long as he respects the pussy. What a crock of nonsense. Pregnancy, accusations of rape, abortion, child support, alimony, lying etc. are the top reasons my reproductive impulses are near gone. The pussy is cost men their money, their time, their sanity, their drive, and their lives. Thanks but no thanks. People often tell me , “Fermat, don’t you want to carry on your family or your legacy? Children will make you immortal by carrying on your memory.” I just look them straight in the face and say “Well, then I guess I’ll just die the f*ck out then since I won’t be “immortal” like the rest of you.”
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
Good honest sobering read.
If only I had read this sooner. I’m a year and a half into being a Dad and having every s~~~ storm thrown at me. It’s a trap and an insurance policy for them.
Guard your sperm gentlemen.
My cousin is about to have a baby with a similar situation. She lives with him and they are constantly fighting and he tells her to move out on a weekly basis, then voala! She gets pregnant. Did I mention they are 18 and he lives in his moms basement. There(women) logic is flawed and they ACTUALLY think a baby will make everything better.
There(women) logic is flawed and they ACTUALLY think a baby will make everything better.
In my case, as I later found out, it was one of my friends (former alpha, turned mangina) who put the idea in her head that a baby would save our marriage. It’s f~~~ed up because we hate that s~~~ being done to us, but we can’t really hate the result because we love our kids. It’s a f~~~ing nightmare.
The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
In my case, as I later found out, it was one of my friends (former alpha, turned mangina) who put the idea in her head that a baby would save our marriage.
I would imagine that this guy is at the top of your s~~~ list.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
I would imagine that this guy is at the top of your s~~~ list.
What guy? If you know what I mean…
The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
I used to think that I misunderstood women……that there really was a method to the madness somewhere in there. I had MGTOW ideas and actions for much of my life but had no clue what they were about. Looking back I can see that my mind had already realized that something was wrong with how women and men interact. Now after beating my head against it long enough I realize that things were many times just as unfair and one sided as I suspected. Family Court system drove that point home to me.
Tried the counselor thing for a bit but already had the feeling that if we needed a counselor that early on that were in big trouble. Of course the counselor was female too which was another issue for me. The clincher was after discussing various issues she summarized by saying ” She is probably never going to change and you need to learn how to accept that”. That was my last visit as I had realized that she didn’t intend to call her out on her BS…..she was just going to try and make me accept it.
From your experience and my own here are the red flags that I should have listened to more.
– If early on in your relationship you end up seeing a counselor its probably over with. The beginning is usually the best part where things are fun, the sex is frequent, and life is great. Later on reality hits when you see more complex situations …that’s when it can be tough. However if you start out with problems it wont get better. Counselors early on are a death stroke.
– if you aren’t having sex and there are no physical issues to explain it things are bad. It is more easy to explain late in a marriage but early in life it means you are going down the tubes quick. Sex used only to get pregnant or to give you a “reward” means it is a BS situation. Will not improve. Once sex is used like that it will not change.Relationships with someone who cares about you don’t have to always he hard. That is just something we have been brainwashed into thinking. Your gut told you it was bulls~~~ was she was doing to you and you were absolutely right.
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