Reflections on life's deflections

[King SolomanParticipant 64]

Hey gentleman.

Thinking back I stumbled across this site some years ago when searching for answers and understanding, but have decided to move out of the shadows and contribute.

Having been in a number of long term relationships from 18 and indulged in plenty of boom boom in my uni days, I have come to the conclusion that the notion of a life partner is an illusion.

Experience tells me that society still expects men to uphold the best snippets of the old partnership agreement, even though the game has changed. Which means the awakened mans conditioning needs to adapt to match.

One of my many past times is trading and risk to reward ratio is a fundamental part of ‘the game’. When looking at relationships logically and removing oxytocin and other hormones from the decision; coupling for more than 2 years is not a logical decision . When playing the probabilities I would certainly not invest, as it would severely compromise my risk management strategy.

Natures trick however is to produce beautiful OR ugly women (depending on you’re fancy or wallet) to propagate the species. Which currently results in a disproportionate access to a mans resources should the relationship sour; above that of supporting the children.

As for me I have never been married and have no children. I am currently dating, but won’t co-habit.

From the start I have been clear that the relationship will not result in marriage or children. Being in my early 30’s I am fully aware that most girls I meet will eventually walk away due to this. But I am confident in my conviction and accept this as part of going my own way. Having recently undergone a vasectomy, I feel the that I have more control over my life and DNA.

My goals for the future aren’t overly fancy. I’m looking at buying land and eventually build my own house. Possibly using some of the old building methods. Whilst integrating sustainable technology like solar and passive heating. Would like some mountain dogs for company and the time to learn anything and everything.

If you’ve read this far thank you.

Life is good as a solo man (king soloman)

Learning by others past mistakes doesn't make me better than them but grateful for their sacrifice

[Anonymous 13]

Welcome Solomon.

It sounds like you have your act together.

All the more reason to watch out they don’t get their hooks in you.

They only seem to be able to play house for about three years if that and then they want drama.

When things are going smoothly and well, the man is happy but she’s just waiting to disrupt if all.

[GregB0Participant]

King Soloman wrote:

Thinking back I stumbled across this site some years ago when searching for answers and understanding, but have decided to move out of the shadows and contribute.

King Soloman wrote:

society still expects men to uphold the best snippets of the old partnership agreement, even though the game has changed.

King Soloman wrote:

to produce beautiful OR ugly women (depending on you’re fancy or wallet) to propagate the species.

King Soloman wrote:

thank you.

Welcome King Soloman and thank you for your introduction.

I agree wholeheartedly with the above points and look forward to your future posts. Thank you for becoming an active member and hopefully you will continue to find threads and postings of your liking.

Women are always looking for resources and hopefully MGTOW.com will continue to provide resources to men that counter their desires.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Welcome!
Very nice intro.
I like your plan for the future.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 5]

Welcome brother.

King Soloman wrote:

looking at relationships logically and removing oxytocin and other hormones from the decision; coupling for more than 2 years is not a logical decision .

It’s the ultimate concoction/elixir of oxytocin, seratonin, endomorphine, dopamine and as yet unidentified drugs ever devised. No combination of illicit drugs will ever feel as good as the transient feeling of “True Love”
The existence of insulin was predicted long before it was actually discovered and I believe they’ll eventually identify the human equivalent of SCOPOLAMINE – The world’s scariest drug This drug will explain (in hindsight) why we become so subject to a woman’s suggestions and go to such bizarre lengths to please them while in “relations~~~s”
Men sign insanely lopsided marriage contracts while under the influence of these mind altering drug trances called “romantic love”.
Loved your angle in your intro, thanks for the great read.

[Anonymous 3]

You appear to b a very reasonable & rational man. Your approach to MGTOW is very much like my own ( at this time ) except I got kicked around pretty hard by the toxic system. I am a minimalist & have simplified my life.
It took me a long time to get here & b OK with myself.
I like your plan for your future & I truly wish you success in that endeavor.
Your path seems clear. Welcome & I hope you contribute often.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Greetings, The beer is in the fridge!

[Anonymous 38]

The juice is not worth the squeeze.

Eco home, dogs and lifelong learning is exactly how I imagine my future.

Welcome brother.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

King Soloman wrote:

One of my many past times is trading and risk to reward ratio is a fundamental part of ‘the game’. When looking at relationships logically and removing oxytocin and other hormones from the decision; coupling for more than 2 years is not a logical decision .

I also got a vasectomy, post-separation to be safe.

Do you actually experience the oxytocin thing with a gf? Ever since I got red-pilled, I’ve found that I am unable to form any emotional attachment at all with any woman, no matter how many times we have sex, no matter how “intimate” we get, no matter how much personal stuff we discuss, no matter how much time spent together.

I’ve had 5 different women between June 2016 and now, and I felt no emotions with any of them anymore. I seem to have found that I am unable to feel that which I not believe in.

I don’t believe in some conscious God-entity thus I am unable to love God. Since I don’t believe romantic love is real, I am unable to love women anymore. If I don’t believe it is real, I cannot feel.

I’m not sure if this is a common thing for a MGHOW. (not being able to form an emotional connection with a woman post-Red pill)

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 38]

Ranger One wrote:

Do you actually experience the oxytocin thing with a gf? Ever since I got red-pilled, I’ve found that I am unable to form any emotional attachment at all with any woman, no matter how many times we have sex, no matter how “intimate” we get, no matter how much personal stuff we discuss, no matter how much time spent together.
I’ve had 5 different women between June 2016 and now, and I felt no emotions with any of them anymore. I seem to have found that I am unable to feel that which I not believe in.
I don’t believe in some conscious God-entity thus I am unable to love God. Since I don’t believe romantic love is real, I am unable to love women anymore. If I don’t believe it is real, I cannot feel.
I’m not sure if this is a common thing for a MGHOW. (not being able to form an emotional connection with a woman post-Red pill)

This is exactly my experience. It’s like in order to have that feeling I need to forget reality and engage in the fantasy, which I can no longer do.

As Stardusk said (The Storm and The Void) you can either love women or you can understand them, you can’t do both.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Anonymous wrote:

This is exactly my experience. It’s like in order to have that feeling I need to forget reality and engage in the fantasy, which I can no longer do.

As Stardusk said (The Storm and The Void) you can either love women or you can understand them, you can’t do both.

“you can either love women or you can understand them, you can’t do both” should be on a tshirt.

The funny thing is the gf is all gooey about me, and I just respond slightly reciprocally. I put just enough wood on the fire to keep it going. As the person in the relationship that doesn’t care, I have the power.

In any kind of relationship, the person who has the need is at a disadvantage. Foolish younger men disadvantage themselves too much by “needing” pussy so badly. I dumped the previous gf with no feelings at all.

The gf came over to my house Wednesday, ostensibly to make pizza and get some nookie. We ate the homemade pizza (she brought the dough, cheese and sauce and I had onions and eggplants from the garden), but I fell asleep because I valued rest more than sex.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[King SolomanParticipant 64]

Thanks for the warm and genuine welcome gents!

@Ranger One & mgtow_taoist: The perspective in indulging in fantasy is an interesting point of view.

From my experience oxytocin is like adrenaline in that certain situations will cause a chemical response. However we can choose how to respond by repeated exposure to the stimulus. It will always be there but as intelligent beings we have the capacity to think above our baser instincts.

Maybe our experiences and knowledge desensitise the hormonal effect, when we understand how the relationship game often ends.

A bit like knowing that the rabbit the magician just pulled out of the hat, was in there all along. The illusion loses its power.

Learning by others past mistakes doesn't make me better than them but grateful for their sacrifice

[Anonymous 4]

You have saved yourself much grief thus far.
Welcome and good luck with your future projects.

[Chase PesosParticipant 2136]

Are you the same Solo-man from YouTube???

Chase a check, never chase a chick...

[AttonParticipant]

That vasectomy will likely pay for itself in pain and dollars within a year.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[King SolomanParticipant 64]

@ChasePesos: No I don’t appear on YT or anywhere else. Must be a brother from another mother, with a shared passion for wordplay.

This forum is the first time I’ve written down my thoughts around walking our own paths.

Learning by others past mistakes doesn't make me better than them but grateful for their sacrifice

[Chase PesosParticipant 2136]

Copy that big brother. Welcome to the fold regardless, it was a pleasure reading your intro and I look forward to more of your wisdom.

Chase a check, never chase a chick...

[nonameParticipant 746]

Welcome brother!

Ranger One wrote:

The gf came over to my house Wednesday, ostensibly to make pizza and get some nookie. We ate the homemade pizza (she brought the dough, cheese and sauce and I had onions and eggplants from the garden), but I fell asleep because I valued rest more than sex.

MGTOW style!

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. - Aristotle
Warrior asked Fear, “How can I defeat you?” Fear replied, “If you don’t do what I say, I have no power.”

[ghostParticipant]

It is an honor to have you here. You already have a solid foundation of knowledge.

Welcome King.

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