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Hi all – I have posted a bit in other sections but finally doing a proper intro with my story
I have always been a bit of a fish out of water with women – can get on with them but when it comes to romantic involvement I have always been an ass and have beta stamped all over my forehead when in other parts of my life I am the opposite
Spent years and years being friendzoned and for me it all came to a head last year when I met a girl through a mate and she lived a 2 hours train journey away and we would alternate the travel. The signs she was mad were there in the beginning as she would know I was out drinking and would start trying to bait me into reactions to get me to speak to her eg screenshots of other men texting her and it would normally work and I would cut my nights short to have a row. At the start I think there was a part of me that seemed to know what she was like and on numerous occasions I dumped her but she would always talk me round (loserish as looking back I was just afraid I wouldn’t get anyone else so even when I was being treated like s~~~ I would end up not getting rid of her even with bad, childish behaviour)
anyway this went on for a while and after months of this she wore me down and I wouldn’t even question her bad behaviour and the lies she was coming out with to get out of prearranged dates including fake dead relatives (no joke) and various other s~~~ and I basically became an ego stroke – when she was bored or feeling ugly she would call out to me and I would have my tongue hanging out to praise her up – even though she was as fat as f~~~ I was like a dog coming back for more. She was the flaky girl in the archive section (I was reading that and thinking my life had actually been recorded with her). Eventually a light went off in my head and I basically told that crazy whackjob to f~~~ off out of my life completely and that was the start of the red pill
As mentioned in the online dating website section – I tried the online thing and met boring women(including just this week) and I just got fed up with it. Another light switch went off in my head and I realised that I would rather spend my time in my flat, with a beer watching dvds, xbox, go pub and basically do what I want, when I want. I look at every bloke I know with a wife/gf and literally all of them are doormats – the women at work find it funny that they boss around their husbands and I don’t want that to be me. I know I am a bit beta as I have bought the lie that women are this prized object to be worshipped and reading through this site is a revelation as I am realising it isn’t me but them and why should I devalue myself because they have a vagina and might throw me some crumbs for positive attention off of me?
Whereas I might have given pretty girls puppy dog eyes like a mangina only a month ago I am now getting past that and just enjoying my life as I have realised I don’t need some slut with me on a leash to make me happy. I am MGTOW all the way now
Thanks for reading
Thanks for the story brother! The red pill is hard to swallow and I’m happy to hear that you made through to the other side. She sounds like a class “A” narcissist and your life will be exponentially more enjoyable without her.
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
Glad to hear you finally swallowed the red pill. You don’t need women like that and it is good you dumped her and realized not to put up with her crap anymore. I too used to be guilty of letting a girlfriend control what I did and make me not even question her motives anymore.
The funny thing is I am grateful for the experience though as I will never put up with anything like that again
Good evening Jim. Really enjoyed your intro. We’re very thrilled to hear it when a man searching for clues and answers finds them here on his own, and is relieved it’s not just his own imaginings. It had the same effect on many as they turn the virtual pages, or perform a google search and just one article in the Manosphere can ping his consciousness and awaken a sleeping giant.
I know I am a bit beta as I have bought the lie that women are this prized object to be worshipped
You didn’t buy it. The scam was sold to you.
Although I am not naturally wired as a “beta”, some of my own past beta actions were more than just a little cringeworthy, as a direct result of bad female programming. I shudder to reflect on them. Women actually work very hard to create the beta they hate. It’s very bad for a man to listen to them. But I also remind myself it wasn’t always that way. When I was a child and teen, I teased girls and was called a “meanie” on many occasions (which made me smile) and I didn’t understand why pulling her pigtails and making her cry made her want to kiss me after school….. when later on, bringing some flowers had the reverse effect.
Live and learn.
One of the biggest traps for a guy is how nature makes it very difficult for us early in life, and we start to think we will NEVER get a girlfriend. Although I was’t terribly handicapped in this area, too many boys are. Then stupidly, and at a very young age, we allow ourselves to become smitten with the first one that talks to us or pays attention to us. That’s a danger zone, when a guy might be willing to put up with s~~~ty, second-class behavior from her….. because he has been programmed to think they are scarce, and if he doesn’t put up with her crap, he will forever be doomed to dry spells.
Women have no problem living in that little world either. They love and milk every second of it.
… until just a little later in life, when nature restores the balance, and we begin to enjoy the benefits of our patience and perserverance. This red-pill reality is the number one lesson for young men, and when I hear a young guy beating himself up about how hard a time he is having at age 18, 21, 23+ I wish I could shake the s~~~ out of him and help him understand he can’t see the future yet.
So your story will be very valuable to a lurker who hasn’t conceptualized this for himself.
Even if it reaches just ONE.Welcome and thanks for joining.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Thanks for the messages
and as I said I am confident in every other aspect of my life so am just taking a step back with women. I have my own flat, earn decent money and my life is my own – I am living the dream! Am coming up for 30 so feel my best years are just around the corner and my whole attitude to women has changed so do feel it is onwards and upwards from now on
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Thanks for the messagesand as I said I am confident in every other aspect of my life so am just taking a step back with women. I have my own flat, earn decent money and my life is my own – I am living the dream! Am coming up for 30 so feel my best years are just around the corner and my whole attitude to women has changed so do feel it is onwards and upwards from now on
Hah! I am also up for 30, this month, so soon! It will be nice to no longer be viewed by co-workers as “some 20 something kid”. I don’t feel that people actually view you as an adult until your in your 30’s. My career is exactly where I planned it would be and the outlook is good. I’m sure you can identify with this! It feels good!
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
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The funny thing is I am grateful for the experience though as I will never put up with anything like that againThat is a good thing. I hated being with my second girlfriend, but the experience made me stronger by having to put up with her crap. Same with my first girlfriend when I went back to dating her a 4th time after I dated my second girlfriend. I was such a little bitch around her and it took a night of incredibly awkward sex and her telling me off to realize how pathetic I was being.
I have 4 more years until 30 I am not looking forward to it since I want to have a daughter before I turn 30, but since adoption is expensive and takes years it probably won’t happen. IVF is even more expensive. I am also going to miss the fact that while in my 20’s I barely got any sexual activity. The only years I have actually having sexual intercourse, not dry sex or oral when I first started dating my first girlfriend, was from 22-23 and when you factor in break ups and going back to my first girlfriend it was only a total of 6-7 months. Just seems like a waste to be in my sexual prime and not doing anything,but than I remember it is better than having to deal with baby mama drama, un fair child support, STD’s, or anything else that might come from sleeping around lol. Also I feel like I am going to be old at 30 lol.
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