Red Pill today

[porchukParticipant 14]

Hey brothers. I am a new mgtow from Turkey. I just want to tell my story in short. Because English is not my native language, it can be hard to write my whole views. Sorry for that. So, I am 25 years old. I met with MGTOW movement on April 2014 when I was in US. I had a facebook account, and I joined to a MGTOW Skype facebook group. I had began to learn the truths of women. Yes, I was definitely angry to women before I know MGTOW; but I don’t know why. lol. I had continued to learn about women until end of the year, then I closed my facebook account. Until today, I have learned many things about the Problem, but I had no idea what I should do. Actually, MGTOW pages didn’t teach me what I need to do. Yes, it teached me to ignore women, or avoid marriage; But, I didn’t have bad view for marriage if I could have a submissive wife. It was not so hard to find this type woman in my culture because individualism is not so strong in here unlike US. But still, all relations between men and women had confused my mind. Last week, I started to read mgtow.com/forum. Then, I applied to be registered. Here, everybody talk about the red pill, but I didn’t understand what this is. Then, I scrolled down in main page and found book section. I seached the books and I was interested in The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar. Luckily, I found it in Turkish. I began to read and I was shock. MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE. http://goo.gl/ZSi3aW … I acttully had no idea about women. Wow. I went back in my every memory, and this book, this holy book showed me why men and especially women are acting like that. Before this book, I was thinking that I am the mistake. But now, I just see that I am sitting in/on s~~~. Wow. I finished half of the book yesterday, and I am continuing now. Yes, MGTOW showed me, tought me what the problem is. But, I couldn’t learn WHY WOMEN ACT LIKE THAT. As a result, I couldn’t find any solution for the problem. until now. Also, I want to criticize MGTOW forum or MGTOW facebook pages. You guys can be so aggressive against new members, who still has question marks in his(not their) brains. Yes, I know, we are on internet, and many women try to attack or troll to this movement because MGTOW tells the truth. But, I think it would be great if you are more tolerant to possible new mgtow. Whatever. I just want to say that I swallowed the red pill yesterday. Of course, it didn’t changed me totally. But, I can look the issue in different perspective. Now, I can find many solutions for this problem eventhought most of them sound like futuristic or fantastic for today. For me, MGTOW is just a movement of awakened men mostly in US. Maybe I am wrong, but I see that best weapon of MGTOW is IGNORING. However, I was awakened yesterday and I am so p~~~ed off right now. I cannot behave like individual men in US. Women had manipulated me for 25 years, I want to manipulate all them in next 25 years. I want to ruin their plans. I want to put the stick in gear wheel of this corrupted system. I don’t know what you think about views of guys like me, and I am really curious. BTW, I want to read other books of Esther Vilar, in Turkish or English. And of course, I will read other books on Books | MGTOW.

[Anonymous 0]

Merhaba Porchuk,

welcome on board.

porchuk wrote:

Also, I want to criticize MGTOW forum or MGTOW facebook pages. You guys can be so aggressive against new members, who still has question marks in his(not their) brains

Not here. If I don’t like the show, I go.

FYI, something for free about the Red Pill
http://www.redpillhandbook.com/

[GrotesqueRogueParticipant 116]

Welcome, man.

Listen, there’s no need to spend your valuable energy on negative emotions. Things are the way they are. Red pill rage will subside. Keep reading, keep learning, keep bettering yourself, don’t f~~~ up anything.

And enjoy your life =)

[WallyParticipant]

Welcome to MGTOW, in time your anger will subside, women’s hpergameous behavior is natural, unfortunately. I too was angery when I realized the truth but I’m two months in and I’m finding the rage subside like other members said it would. Just learning to accept the dynamic for what it is. Don’t let your focus be on manipulating them but on those things in life you enjoy, if you put your efforts on manipulation, women in a sense are still controlling you.

Only time I have seen any of the somewhat aggressive behavior that you mention is when an individual doesn’t make an introduction but starts off with a topic that seems to be baiting members. You have gotten off to a good start with your introduction. Good luck!

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 42]

Hi porchuk, while reading your post I thought of a social test I did last night on a woman, a waitress in a restaurant . I pulled away from our crowded table and decided to sit my myself with a view of the entire restaurant. I purposely ignored the pretty waitress that was an obvious attention whore with large gold whorrings (I mean earrings). It was obvious that I was the only man in the last five hundred thousand that didn’t look at her beauty. After a while she came over (out of her section) and questioned me (in a odd way) if I wanted anything? (after eating dinner for a half hour and she wasn’t my waitress). It was like she was befuddled because I wasn’t checking her out, then said it was odd me sitting all alone.
She pretended like she didn’t notice me, yet she knew I was sitting alone (contradiction). She was tripping over her own words in her feeling rejected by my failure to take notice of her. It was like the hamster wheel in her head had a connecting rod to her jaw and nothing made any sense.
All I did was deprive her of attention and I immediately stood out, she couldn’t resist coming over and giving a nudge, then place shame and guilt on me for sitting alone?????
Women are like horses, take notice of them and they walk away! Ignore them and they can’t resist, they come right up to you and get in your hair, eventually under your skin…

[porchukParticipant 14]

@Hollowmile

Merhaba. Thank you very much. I downloaded the handbook, and I will read it just after I finish my current book. By the way, after I read a couple of pages of the handbook, I decided to translate it in Turkish. Many Turkish men have no idea about the red pill. Eventhough it is very difficult to translate all 400 pages, I want to translate it, not only for Turkish men, but also for myself. I guess, I can translate 10 pages/day. Let’s see.

@grotesquerogue and @wally

You guys are totally right. But last two days (it is 12am now), I was totally suprised. I am still suprised. Like that: http://goo.gl/WWf48j … How couldn’t I think this before? And, when I think my memories, my face becomes like this: http://goo.gl/Jv28Vz … It is like thinking about childhood memories: funny, stupid, but also shameful. I am looking to the world with a new perspective. I know, I exaggerate the situation, it looks like everything will be different in my life anymore.

@MG-ɹǝʍo┴

I liked your test. I should try it on all women. lol. Yes, I ignored a couple of women in my past life, but always I was dissolved after small talk. Now, I listen all songs what I listened before. I watch all films what I watched before. And, I realized that all of them were produce for women’s hegemony. Without exception. I can give a lot of examples right now. But, I don’t wanna bother you guys more. Actually, I don’t plan to write here. I will read the forum and essential books or handbooks. And mostly, I will work/study hard to make me happy in real life. Because, when I look my past 10 years, I only see disappointments, which were made by women’s manipulation. After I developed myself against this manipulation, I will begin to awake other men.

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Thank you again guys for your advices . Life is beautiful now.

[Anonymous 42]

@porchuk, stop in every once in a while, you’re a good egg from Turkey, we like to hear more from you and your progress on reestablishing your position as a man, a real man, and what a real man does with “his” life.
Spread the word to other men in Turkey still lost in the fog.
Women the world over, in every religion, race, and country, have distorted and perverted the true spirit of man in his most natural state, LEADER not FOLLOWER!….

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[porchukParticipant 14]

Anonymous wrote:

Merhaba Porchuk,
welcome on board.

porchuk wrote:

Also, I want to criticize MGTOW forum or MGTOW facebook pages. You guys can be so aggressive against new members, who still has question marks in his(not their) brains

Not here. If I don’t like the show, I go.
FYI, something for free about the Red Pillhttp://www.redpillhandbook.com/

Thank you very much. I downloaded the handbook, and I will read it just after I finish my current book. By the way, after I read a couple of pages of the handbook, I decided to translate it in Turkish. Many Turkish men have no idea about the red pill. Eventhough it is very difficult to translate all 400 pages, I want to translate it, not only for Turkish men, but also for myself. I guess, I can translate 10 pages/day. Let’s see.

GrotesqueRogue wrote:

Welcome, man.
Listen, there’s no need to spend your valuable energy on negative emotions. Things are the way they are. Red pill rage will subside. Keep reading, keep learning, keep bettering yourself, don’t f~~~ up anything.
And enjoy your life =)

Wally wrote:

Welcome to MGTOW, in time your anger will subside, women’s hpergameous behavior is natural, unfortunately. I too was angery when I realized the truth but I’m two months in and I’m finding the rage subside like other members said it would. Just learning to accept the dynamic for what it is. Don’t let your focus be on manipulating them but on those things in life you enjoy, if you put your efforts on manipulation, women in a sense are still controlling you.
Only time I have seen any of the somewhat aggressive behavior that you mention is when an individual doesn’t make an introduction but starts off with a topic that seems to be baiting members. You have gotten off to a good start with your introduction. Good luck!

You guys are totally right. But last two days (it is 12am now), I was totally suprised. I am still suprised. Like that: http://goo.gl/WWf48j … How couldn’t I think this before? And, when I think my memories, my face becomes like this: http://goo.gl/Jv28Vz … It is like thinking about childhood memories: funny, stupid, but also shameful. I am looking to the world with a new perspective. I know, I exaggerate the situation, it looks like everything will be different in my life anymore.

Anonymous wrote:

Hi porchuk, while reading your post I thought of a social test I did last night on a woman, a waitress in a restaurant . I pulled away from our crowded table and decided to sit my myself with a view of the entire restaurant. I purposely ignored the pretty waitress that was an obvious attention whore with large gold whorrings (I mean earrings). It was obvious that I was the only man in the last five hundred thousand that didn’t look at her beauty. After a while she came over (out of her section) and questioned me (in a odd way) if I wanted anything? (after eating dinner for a half hour and she wasn’t my waitress). It was like she was befuddled because I wasn’t checking her out, then said it was odd me sitting all alone.She pretended like she didn’t notice me, yet she knew I was sitting alone (contradiction). She was tripping over her own words in her feeling rejected by my failure to take notice of her. It was like the hamster wheel in her head had a connecting rod to her jaw and nothing made any sense.All I did was deprive her of attention and I immediately stood out, she couldn’t resist coming over and giving a nudge, then place shame and guilt on me for sitting alone?????Women are like horses, take notice of them and they walk away! Ignore them and they can’t resist, they come right up to you and get in your hair, eventually under your skin…

I liked your test. I should try it on all women. lol. Yes, I ignored a couple of women in my past life, but always I was dissolved after small talk.

———–

Now, I listen all songs what I listened before. I watch all films what I watched before. And, I realized that all of them were produce for women’s hegemony. Without exception. I can give a lot of examples right now. But, I don’t wanna bother you guys more. Actually, I don’t plan to write here. I will read the forum and essential books or handbooks. And mostly, I will work/study hard to make me happy in real life. Because, when I look my past 10 years, I only see disappointments, which were made by women’s manipulation. After I developed myself against this manipulation, I will begin to awake other men.

———–

Thank you again guys. Life is beautiful now.

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