Reading the ""The Rational Male"" is further proof MGTOW is the only way.

[Professor ChaosParticipant 489]

I bought The Rational Man based on a MGTOW members advice.

I’m halfway through and it doesn’t resonate with me.

Spinning Plates seems exhausting and impractical. I work 50 hours a week, add 8 for the commute. I cook my own food 6 nights a week, workout 3 nights a week, and play golf at least once on the weekend. There’s no way I’m going to spend to spend the rest of my precious time listening to some women drone on about her boring job or banal tv shows for a chance to f~~~ them for 15 minutes.

And acting like jerk to get women…no thank you. I’m not changing my personality to get some pussy. I like who I am.

Maybe I’m not comprehending the book right? Any thoughts?

[WallyParticipant]

That’s the same way feeling I got from the book. I have never understood the mindset of the PUA. Seems like they are constantly on guard, I would rather relax, be myself and enjoy life.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Professor Chaos wrote:

I bought The Rational Man based on a MGTOW members advice.

I’m halfway through and it doesn’t resonate with me.

Spinning Plates seems exhausting and impractical. I work 50 hours a week, add 8 for the commute. I cook my own food 6 nights a week, workout 3 nights a week, and play golf at least once on the weekend. There’s no way I’m going to spend to spend the rest of my precious time listening to some women drone on about her boring job or banal tv shows for a chance to f~~~ them for 15 minutes.

And acting like jerk to get women…no thank you. I’m not changing my personality to get some pussy. I like who I am.

Maybe I’m not comprehending the book right? Any thoughts?

I never read the book, but I like your attitude !

Frank V.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

I live my life for me. As far as my attitude towards women, it is the same as my attitude towards a bee hive. Sure there’s honey inside, but is it worth putting all the protective equipment? The bee suit, head cover (think condoms, consent forms, prenup agreement). I could just leave it along and go about my business. I can live without honey. I can also live without women.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

PUA’s are a mix of Chads and ultimate pussy chasers. I also don’t like that they use people.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

When I was going through my divorce I thought I’d bang anything that moved. But as the process went on I realized how much I valued peace. Not being an emotional tampon for someone looking for someone to talk at, not talk to.

The thought of hitting on women makes me exhausted. No thanks.

Order the good wine

[RoyDalParticipant]

Donate that piece of trash to your favorite charity’s thrift store, or, better yet, sell it on eBay. Instead read this:
The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar
You will find it in ARCHIVES >> BOOKS.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[The Laughing ManParticipant 1020]

I’ve read all of TRM blog posts and currently reading his first book with second one waiting in que. While it can come off as PUA, the author is not a PUA. He’s married (18 years) with a daughter but has well thought out ideas based on personal experience and research. That book is from his earlier postings, 2011 time frame, that was heavy handed in Game.

Whether your interest is how to attract females or how to understand their behaviors, he is mostly spot on. I would encourage you to read his blog, newer to older. The newer stuff will be more to your liking (IMHO).

Yes Game takes work but if your goal isn’t to pick up women then It behoves you to at least understand the underpinnings of female nature.

For me TRM was my first taste of the red pill. I too was a bit put off by his choice of words but it made sense so I kept reading. Don’t give up, he definitely has some good talking points.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

I agree with Laughing man , and the OP actually. For me , the OP is right because I am in the same boat he is(I actually work more than 50 hours a week , and drive 500 miles or more all over Houston) , and bulls~~~ting with women for pussy is not an option. My nature is that of a nice person too , no reason to change that as it suits me fine , and probably benefits me in my sales role. While I don’t have the time or inclination to devote to the PUA side of his writings , I have been reading various things on that site and there is PLENTY to value there.

[AFTParticipant 2726]

I too came across TRM when I first tried to comprehend the red pill. His article on SMV was the introduction to the red pill for me. Life all started to make sense, and things just fell into place.

He was almost anti-MGTOW at the beginning, basically belittling MGTOW for not manning up and being ABLE to handle women. Now he has evolved perhaps as part of all his writings on the female imperative, so much so that recently he admitted he wouldn’t get married in this environment now days. A statement of being MGTOW, without being able to admit it to himself.

MGTOW for me simply put is protect myself, put myself first, no marriage and no relationships, simple.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

After I split with my ex-wife (she cheated on me) my self esteem was pretty low so I turned to dating sites having not dated in 15+ years. The women on there are such sluts that I ended up plate spinning without knowing there was even a term for it.

I thought at the time it was fun, but looking back it was a total waste of time and money. I was literally spending £500 a month ($727 US) on dates to maybe get 3 or 4 f~~~s. Plus the amount of time it took up having to whatsapp all these women constantly and hoping they wouldn’t find out about all the others I was seeing. I knew it had got crazy when I was simultaneously having Whatsapp chats with 3 different women at once. Seriously, as soon as I got home from work I would sit on the couch and be chatting to women all night until I finally went to sleep.

It did my confidence good and definitely increased my self esteem, but of course the more confident and less of a f~~~ I gave the easier it became to plate spin.

The ultimate irony is that all of this work was put in to get laid, but once I knew I could have sex with a woman I usually lost interest. I never thought I would ever say this but there were many times I had sex with a woman when I really didn’t want to.

I think PUA are actually men who deep down have low self esteem and need the ego boost of being able to convince women to sleep with them. It is no different to the overweight woman who is a total slut and f~~~s loads of men due to her low self esteem.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Funny, I was just about to make a topic about The Rational Male.

Very interesting reads, I stayed up one night for like six hours clicking on post after post. He certainly interesting, and I learned a bit, but he doesn’t have that flattering a view of MGTOW. He also thinks that there’s something broken about a man.

Also, a good amount of the blog is his sly and underhanded propping himself up; for example, he often says how marriage and families are a losing deal for men, yet he mentions he’s married and has a kid quite frequently, never bothering to mention, or superficially mentioning, what makes his marriage different.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[AttonParticipant]

Video’s are easier to consume than books.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[The Laughing ManParticipant 1020]

Atton wrote:

Video’s are easier to consume than books.

I tend to lean that way too but when material, especially something you’re trying to wrap your head around, it helps to have words to reread.

TRM book just came it on audible if you’re more incline to listen.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

[LightBringerParticipant 440]

When I first got rocked by a BPD girl, RM and cheateau heriste and this guy name Shark saved my ass by exposing me to the ‘red pill’, its HEAVY PUA stuff. I still read some CH, but dropped RM. Just not worth chasing f~~~ing bitches anymore, rather load up porn, then go game or work out.

[The Laughing ManParticipant 1020]

LightBringer wrote:

..Just not worth chasing f~~~ing bitches anymore, rather load up porn, then go game or work out.

If you’re only reading his work as a how to pick up women then Game will seem like a chore (and it is). If you better yourself and as a byproduct women pay you more attention, knowing what’s going on can only help you. Knowing game and choosing not to use it as a means to protect oneself is smart.

It’s like trying to play a difficult video game without any walkthrough / tutorial and quitting because you get frustrated. Not continuing because you don’t like is fine, its the giving up because you don’t get it that should be avoided.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

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