Reactions to perceived "couples" in public

[zyo81Participant 84]

I have noticed something the last few years that I don’t think I’ve heard pop up in the manosphere. I’m assuming I’m not the only one who has experienced this.

If I’m out in public with a female acquaintance the attitude of others changes dramatically. I’m not talking about with people I know, like mom being excited she might finally get those grandkids.

I mean people you interact with day to day and the like that normally act a certain way. If I go to a car dealer or other place I don’t frequent and a female of dateable age is with me, people do seem to smile a lot and treat me differently.

But what I find really odd is the people that I see regularly yet don’t know me, such as the people working at a coffee shop, grocery store, restaurant etc.

These people may not know my name but see me regularly and the positivity and smiled are cranked to the max if I make the rounds with a female in tow. I don’t understand this. Maybe some kind of social proof?

A lot of times I do joke and smile and laugh with these people so I have seen them in their “regular mode”(?).

I can walk in to the coffee shop and say nothing and be quiet but if I do have a girl with me these people give me more positive attention than ever. And no, not just the females. I am aware of females’ tendency to flirt with me more when I have a girl with me. But even the guys. The attention isn’t all going to the girl either.

I just thought this was strange and was wondering who else noticed this and what everyone’s thoughts were on the subject.

[Bl4ckSh33pParticipant 274]

It’s the social proof. Same thing has happened to me whenever I’ve been accompanied by female friends. It’s like all of a sudden you seem like someone important when you have a girl beside you.

I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it slowly fades leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science. -Rick Sanchez

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

Bl4ckSh33p wrote:

It’s the social proof. Same thing has happened to me whenever I’ve been accompanied by female friends. It’s like all of a sudden you seem like someone important when you have a girl beside you.

Why do you think rich people have a very attractive woman accompanying them to places all the time? It’s all about the appearance!

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

1)Gynocentrism.

2)The women are wonderful effect.(look it up)

3)People worship women in small little ways.

Women are seen as cleaner,more evolved,more advanced,deserving of preferential treatment.
Spiritually,emotionaly,mentally more advanced.

People consider you to be somehow special if a woman blesses you with her presence.

Every woman.Especially attractive women are considered to be somehow slightly divine.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[RoyDalParticipant]

This happens so often, it’s easy to believe it is in our biological hard wiring.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[zyo81Participant 84]

MgtowWave wrote:

1)Gynocentrism.

2)The women are wonderful effect.(look it up)

I just looked it up. Somehow had never heard of it before. I was just thinking it was odd. But now I’m rather irritated.

[narwhalParticipant]

Yes, I’ve noticed this too. What bothers me the most is the perception that I am somehow dangerous because I don’t have a woman next to me.

My daughter (9 years old) has a birthday coming up and wants to have a pool party over at my house. I’m all good with, except I’d ask my ex to assist with the invitations since I don’t know all my daughters friends. I was talking with my mother about it and she suggested that I have my ex come over for the party. She thought a lot of parents would not be comfortable having their daughter at the party with only a man present. That was from my own mother.

Anyway, that’s not going to happen. If parents aren’t comfortable, then they should at least have the b~~~~ to tell me. That way they can know how foolish they sound and I can use it as a lesson to my kids.

Aside…the pool is just recently completed and something I’m very proud of. I’ve always loved pools and always wanted one…something I’m 99% sure would never happen if I had stayed married.

Ok. Then do it.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

yup, its the happy shining people effect, mix a couple of normal to mild attractive women in a male group and the social dynamics changes completely.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

@narwal

I think it would be a good lesson for the kids if the parents are uncomfortable.

And.

Having to have your ex around is a liability.

Gives people a chance to show their misandry in plain view..

When my son was about that age,we were out some where and some old c~~~ asked me “Wheres the mother”

I told her shes not in the picture ,she gave me a discusted look and i walked away.

Had a lot of problems with the school etc and some of it i had to resolve with an attorney.

My attorney told the school princable off.
Settled all the issues with one phone conversation with the phone speaker on for all to hear.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Anonymous 54]

narwhal wrote:

Yes, I’ve noticed this too. What bothers me the most is the perception that I am somehow dangerous because I don’t have a woman next to me.

My daughter (9 years old) has a birthday coming up and wants to have a pool party over at my house. I’m all good with, except I’d ask my ex to assist with the invitations since I don’t know all my daughters friends. I was talking with my mother about it and she suggested that I have my ex come over for the party. She thought a lot of parents would not be comfortable having their daughter at the party with only a man present. That was from my own mother.

Anyway, that’s not going to happen. If parents aren’t comfortable, then they should at least have the b~~~~ to tell me. That way they can know how foolish they sound and I can use it as a lesson to my kids.

Aside…the pool is just recently completed and something I’m very proud of. I’ve always loved pools and always wanted one…something I’m 99% sure would never happen if I had stayed married.

You got it right man. If you have a woman with you and she seems happy they figure you are a nice safe man to be around. If you a man alone you are probably some kind of EVIL. I am a Man alone. That makes me SMART!!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

@narwal

And everyone else.

Having your ex around and being around your ex is a bad idea in the long run.

I learned that the hard way.

Keep conversations short and to the point.

For example

If she or you call about a dental appointment and she changes the subject to her car problem or man problem or something that happend when you were married say Ooops i got to go my mother is calling.Or something.

Give her or let her manipulate a conversation an inch now,years from now she will try to manipulate it for miles.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[zyo81Participant 84]

I don’t hang around kids. But I do get odd looks in the grocery store when I’m alone. Especially during the day, like if I take off work early for an appointment and grocery shop on the way home. The place is filled with women and most of them look at me like they’re p~~~ed or something. Like I should be supporting a woman to do my shopping? Meanwhile I’m thinking “So how did all of these ugly women manage to get someone to pay for them?”

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Dark sunglasses,baseball cap and Terminator expression on my face.

C~~~ the f~~~ out my way.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22559]

It is sad that everyone wants something from us, but nobody wants to spend time with us.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

The biggest slap in the face I received from being alone with my daughter so far – was when I had a long connection (5/6 hr?) in Frankfurt and decided to go outside of international airport to find means to entertain ourselves. Despite both of us having passports to be in Germany without a visa and me having a notarized power of attorney from my wife to travel with my daughter, f~~~ing immigration Polizei had us spend 3 hours in their room while they were trying to get my wife on the phone to confirm that it’s OK for me to travel with my daughter. Unbelievable

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I experience this too and my assumptions are:

1) People like to see you in the yoke of mainstream cultural expectations. It validates their choices when they see a woman in your life because they assume she has you by the short ones the same as their woman does them or as they do their man, respectively.

2) Other women see her as social proof for you, yes, but more so they see you as a trophy for her in their little competition of who can get the most from a man.

A single man is a loose cannon but a man with a woman in his life is under control and it makes everyone feel better about themselves. The more cowed you are, the happier and better they will treat you.

It’s great camouflage for a single guy like me to travel with a (non intimate) female companion. Let them think what they want about us, worst case I get dismissed as harmless, best case I become an object of competition. Either way I can move under the radar that would normally be directed at me if I were alone.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

I don’t notice it. I don’t really pay much attention to people. Interesting observation though. I would have never thought about it.

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

Whenever I’m walking around, I get treated like I’m a child most of the time because I look like I’m 15 years old. I don’t get much hostility towards women either because of my appearance. Most don’t give a s~~~ because if I waited in a line with a bunch of 13 and 14 year olds (which I have before) most people would just assume I’m a kid running around doing my own thing.

I have noticed though that especially with my blue pill friends, the ones who are relations~~~s get talked about more and get more acknowledgement from the group. Most of the single men like me do talk to other people in my group of friends, but we’re usually left to our own unless we make an effort to socialize.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22559]

Stargazer wrote:

A single man is a loose cannon but a man with a woman in his life is under control and it makes everyone feel better about themselves. The more cowed you are, the happier and better they will treat you.

The irony is it is quite the reverse. It is the single women that are the most trouble, whom are the greatest drain on resources on society. A man alone is a quiet man just keeping to himself. A woman alone is a woman seeking to create drama and trouble.

Though, persecutions like this does remove any sympathy for the societies that cause it.

The only people I feel sympathy for, whom live in Germany, are the single native German men. They take crap from all sides, and it is not their fault for stupidity by everyone else.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I agree, I think it’s one of the expression of instincts behind herd mentality. Anyone perceived to be contrarian to the mainstream tribe culture will be looked at with suspicion and caution, while conforming and fitting-in is rewarded. I’m assuming such behavior helped us to survive in prehistoric ages.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

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