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    MagicStarBunny
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    I thought I would kick off my first post with a bang: Rateh Parsons.

    For those who don’t know this was a young lady of 15 who was gang raped at a house party in halifax by 4 boys then bullied until she committed suicide because of a picture circulating around her school.

     

    This is what the media would have you believe.

     

    The initial facts are actually very interesting and amount to something a lot less Politically Correct. If anyone is curious, I have no ties to victim or accussed, I would just like the facts to be heard on a non-biased Canadian forum.

    I will sum up the case for you according to FACTUAL articles I have read:

    A young lady attends a house party with her bestfriend where she proceeds to drink irresponsibly. She then enters into consensual touching and petting with the friend’s boy crush. Several hours later she is drunk and participating in sex with 4 young men to the opposition of her best friend. The best friend then leaves the party to get her mother and both return and try and pull Rateh from the party. The girl will not leave. Later the 4 boys snap a picture of the sex while the young woman vomits from a window. After the party the photo is sent to her best friend who shares it with other teens at her school. Her mother who ‘had experienced rape in her past’ coaches her as to what to say and convices her that she might have been raped.

     

    The police are called in as well as an RCMP sexual investigations unit (staffed by women), no conclusive evidence of a sex crime is found. Bullying continues but as to what that bullying is or by whom is never recorded. Rateh for reasons unknown moves out of her parents house and across town.

    2 years later

    Rateh Parsons has a fight with her boyfriend and decides to hang herself. The mother gets onto facebook and posts that the suicide was caused by ‘rape’ and proceeds to name the 4 boys from the picture. SJW’s gather support and a petition. Political Pressure is used to garner support, especially with the ANON hacker group, then the parson family have a special meeting with Stephen Harper. The case is again re-opened and the boys are found guilty of distributing ‘child porn’.

    Fast forward to a few weeks ago. The father of one of the boys edits a wiki entry to reflect the factual un-pc story and is hailed a ‘rape apologist’. His crime? Using company resources to edit wikipedia, he is currently serving with the Canadian Forces. Canadians call for blood.

     

    Today’s Canadian society reminds me much of the same Islamic fundamentalists Canadians claim to be fighting. If the ‘SJW mobs’ don’t agree then find a verdict which satisfies them until they do, its the equivalent of a modern day witch hunt. Any time someone suggests common sense, it is shouted down with typical rape hysteria and white knight apologist remarks. The fact of that matter is that a young lady with questionable morals was raised a typical ‘modern woman’ and got burned. Society cannot accept the fact that there are consequences to stupid decisions and prefer to snuff out anything they deem in opposition to their fantasy. These are dangerous times and any further conviction in this case will spell the end of net neutrality. When the Pry-Minister can overturn court decisions from feminist political pressure and retroactively prosecute citizens, we are just steps away from anything the left doesn’t agree with being labeled: ‘hate speech’.

     

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rehtaeh-parsons-wikipedia-page-edits-121610574.html

    http://www.canada.com/Blatchford+Rehtaeh+Parsons+casual+teenage+cruelty+tragic+consequences/10733112/story.html

    http://www.cumberlandnewsnow.com/News/Local/2013-04-15/article-3219935/Halifax-protest-for-Rehtaeh-Parsons-demands-justice%2C-change/1

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    Another of the contradictions is that the boy Judge Lenehan said had “lit the wildfire, so to speak” is such a slight young man, bright, well-spoken and even capable, albeit in that awkward-bordering-on-ghastly way of the young man, of being thoughtful.</p>
    At Cole Harbour High, in Grade 11, he was on the football team and by his own shy admission, a “pretty popular” kid.</p>
    He is also brave.</p>
    He read a statement in court at the end of his sentencing, apologizing to Rehtaeh’s family and his own and admitting he’d made “a huge mistake.”</p>
    “I will not live with the guilt of someone passing away, but I will live with the guilt of sending the picture.”</p>
    And he reminded the packed courtroom, “I have pled guilty to distributing child pornography, not a sexual assault” and said “I never played a part in the bullying (of Rehtaeh), nor would I.”</p>
    That was a courageous challenge to the public narrative that has taken root here and far beyond Nova Scotia.</p>

    On April 4, 2013, after a quarrel with her boyfriend, an upset Rehtaeh returned home and attempted to hang herself in the bathroom. She suffered brain damage and was removed from life support three days later.</p>
    Her mother took to Facebook, telling the world, “Rehtaeh is gone today because of the four boys that thought raping a 15-year-old girl was OK and to distribute a photo to ruin her spirit and reputation would be fun.”</p>
    There were never four boys involved, and as a friend of Rehtaeh’s who was at the house that night told police and as Rehtaeh’s own messages suggested, there may never have been a sexual assault. There certainly wasn’t a reasonable prospect of conviction.</p>
    According to the boy, the night before, he, the other boy and Rehtaeh’s friend were drinking, and they “kind of got into it, and we did some things.”</p>
    (“Did some things” is the boy’s code for sex, at least in telling his story in front of his parents.)</p>
    The next day, Rehtaeh was with that girl and the boys. They were all drinking heavily — straight vodka shots — and at some point, the two boys and Rehtaeh headed to the bedroom.</p>
    Police later told the boy they estimated he’d had 11 shots, Rehtaeh eight. He said at no time did he believe she was so drunk she didn’t know what she was doing.</p>
    “Obviously, if I felt like if she didn’t want it, it wouldn’t have happened,” he said. “It was all mutual. We were in the groove.”
    The next day, when the boy “woke up sober” he checked his phone and found the other boy had sent the picture.
    “I thought, ‘OK, that’s what happened last night,’ ” and sent it to the first girl. “I just said, ‘Look what I did last night type of thing,’ ” he said. “Kind of bragging about it, but it was a joke as well.”
    On  the night of the picture, when Rehtaeh Parsons wouldn’t go home, she slept alone in a spare room.
    The boy of the house, said the one in the picture, “didn’t want her sleeping in his bed in case she got sick in there or something.”

    There it was again, the bloodless, casual cruelty of the young, same as it ever was, only now, in the modern world, with what the judge called “tragic consequences, the worst ever.”

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    MagicStarBunny
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    METRO HALIFAX</p>

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    Over 100 people showed up for a protest demanding justice for Rehtaeh Parsons, including her mother Leah Parsons (second from left) on Sunday.</p>

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    < >HALIFAX – Local residents and members of an international hacktivist group called for both criminal justice and social change during a protest in honour of a Cole Harbour teen who took her own life.</p>

    “There’s a responsibility by the public in the way kids are brought up and what they’re taught in the home,” said a masked, unnamed member of Anonymous on Sunday, referring to the four boys who allegedly gang-raped Rehtaeh Parsons when she was 15. “But there’s also a responsibility by the judicial system to act when there’s a problem and do a thorough investigation, which is not what happened here.”</p>
    Rehtaeh killed herself earlier this month, two years after she was allegedly gang raped and then harassed by classmates when a photo of the attack was shared on social media.</p>
    RCMP investigated the case and did not lay charges, but have said they’ll re-open the investigation, based on new information.</p>
    About 100 people joined the peaceful protest outside Halifax police headquarters Sunday, castigating police for the initial investigation. “The police that work in that building are saying that having under-aged students drinking and having sex in your home is not a crime,” said organizer Dave, as the crowd chanted “Do your job!” in the direction of the police station.</p>
    “They’re saying that photographs of 15-year-old girls having sex is not child pornography…distributing these images on the internet is not a crime.”</p>
    Several speakers also brought up statistics on sexual violence, which suggest at least half of all Canadian women will be assaulted in their lifetime.</p>
    “I’m tired because I’ve heard stories like Rehtaeh’s too often, and they are becoming too commonplace in our society,” said participant Jen. “I’m tired of a justice system that leaves victims feeling neglected and blamed and where criminals are not properly investigated or held accountable.”</p>
    Kim Wall, 45, said it’s time for parents and adults in general to start teaching young boys and men responsibility for their own behaviour.
    “I’m really tired of phrases like, ‘Boys will be boys,’” she said, after sharing several personal anecdotes of sexual violence from her own life.  “It is time that we start teaching our sons respect so that we’re not all teaching our daughters to protect themselves against those sons.” Later in the afternoon, an apparent counter-protest materialized at the same location. A handful of people stood on the sidewalk carrying signs reading “Listen!” and “2 sides to every story,” apparently in support of the boys involved in the alleged assault.</p>

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    MagicStarBunny
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    It was a dog’s breakfast of a file — with the singular feature, almost unheard of in a sexual assault complaint, of an independent witness — that led police and prosecutors to conclude they couldn’t charge anyone in the Rehtaeh Parsons case.

    With information from sources close to the investigation, Postmedia has learned that much of the accepted gospel about the case — teenager is gang-raped, humiliated by the circulation of a cruel picture of the assault, then abandoned by the justice system and driven to suicide — is incomplete.  Related: Rehtaeh Parsons charges come nearly two years later, after difficult investigations

    The 17-year-old attempted to hang herself in the bathroom of her mother Leah Parsons’ home in the Halifax suburb of Cole Harbour on April 4. Rehtaeh suffered lethal brain damage and three days later was removed from life support.

    Her mother turned to Facebook on April 8, the day after her daughter’s death.</p>

    “Rehtaeh is gone today because of the four boys that thought that raping a 15-year-old girl was OK and to distribute a photo to ruin her spirit and reputation would be fun,” Parsons wrote in part.</p>
    Leah Parsons Jason Barnes
    Related: Rehtaeh’s parents respond to Christie Blatchford</p>
    She also decried the “bullying and messaging that never let up” and declared flatly that “the justice system failed her.”</p>
    Proving the modern maxim that she who gets to social media first may set the script in stone, the post ignited a firestorm.</p>
    The Facebook page went viral; the hacker group Anonymous soon was threatening to out the alleged rapists by name, bullying Nova Scotia Justice MinisterRoss Landry “to take immediate legal action” and condemning police and prosecutors as incompetent, and the Justice for Rehtaeh online petition was well on its way to acquiring the more than 450,000 signatures it now has. Just Thursday — completing an about-face that saw him first defend, then throw investigators and Crown attorneys under the bus by ordering a review of their decisions as public pressure mounted — Landry announced the formation of a new “cyber-investigative unit” and promised legislative changes under a new provincial Cyber-Safety Act.
    The announcement came one day after Rehtaeh’s mother and father Glen Canning travelled to Ottawa for a special meeting with Prime Minister Stephen Harper.</p>
    The parents, and Nova Scotia Premier Darrell Dexter, who also met with Harper, are pushing for Criminal Code changes that would outlaw so-called “revenge porn.”</p>
    But Postmedia sources point to huge problems with the case that made it virtually impossible to take to court, chiefly the shifting accounts from Rehtaeh herself and independent evidence, including retrieved online messages, that supported the suggestion the sex that took place was consensual.</p>
    Even the notorious cellphone picture, first sent by one of the alleged assailants and re-circulated thereafter, shows virtually nothing that would stand up in court.</p>
    The photo is of a male naked from the waist down, giving a thumbs-up sign, pressing into the bare behind of another person who is leaning out a window.</p>
    What the picture doesn’t reveal, however, is a recognizable face, if there even was a sexual assault going on, or if the second person was a female. Rehtaeh was just 15 when, on the night of Nov. 12, 2011, she went to a party with a girlfriend and was allegedly sexually assaulted by three or four boys (the reported number varies).</p>
    It was only a week later, after the picture surfaced and made the rounds at her high school, that police were first called by Parsons.</p>
    In her original statement to police, Rehtaeh identified the boy in the picture and herself as the second person, said she had had a lot to drink very quickly, and that she had sex with two of the four boys present at the house.</p>
    When she leaned out the window to be sick, she told police, one of them assaulted her.</p>
    She remembered almost nothing else.</p>
    The girlfriend of Rehtaeh’s who was at the party told police Rehtaeh was being flirtatious, even egging the boys on.</p>
    The friend said she was in and out of the bedroom where Rehtaeh had disappeared, and that at one point saw Rehtaeh on the bed with the two boys, naked and laughing.</p>
    The friend tried to get her to leave with her, but Rehtaeh wouldn’t.</p>
    The friend was furious — she had a crush on one of the two boys and had asked Rehtaeh to stay away from him.</p>
    But she was still a good girlfriend: She later returned to the house with her mother, and again tried to persuade Rehtaeh to leave, to no avail.</p>
    Only in a second statement to police about two weeks later did Rehtaeh say for the first time that she had told the two boys “No” and tried to get them off her.</p>
    About everything else, her memory remained virtually non-existent.</p>
    Add to all this conversations police know Rehtaeh had with friends the day after the party, which revealed a young woman filled with regret for what she portrayed as consensual sex with two boys and who was now afraid her friends would think her “a slut.”</p>
    Not until the picture surfaced and Rehtaeh told her mother about it did she start talking about pressing charges.</p>
    “How many people was it?” one friend asked.</p>
    “Three I think,” Rehtaeh told her.</p>
    The case was handled by a joint Halifax Regional Police/RCMP sex assault team, the lead investigator a woman.</p>
    It took almost a year for the police to bring the case to a senior Crown attorney within the province’s Public Prosecution Service (PPS). Also a woman, she is an experienced sex assault prosecutor.</p>
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    While in a few provinces, Crown attorneys have to approve charges, Nova Scotia isn’t one of them, though police often ask for legal advice.</p>
    (These two arms of the province’s justice system have different legal standards to meet. For police, it’s what’s called RPG, or reasonable and probable grounds, to lay a charge. For prosecutors, it’s “a realistic prospect of conviction” in court.)</p>
    Essentially, what police ask is, “Do I have a case here?”</p>
    The prosecutor “looked at it really thoroughly,” PPS spokesperson Chris Hansen told Postmedia in a telephone interview Thursday. “She concluded there was no realistic prospect of conviction.”</p>
    The officer then turned her mind to a possible child-pornography charge, so the prosecutor referred her to a colleague, one of two PPS specialists in cyber crime, particularly as it relates to child pornography.</p>
    “He looked at it carefully as well,” Hansen said, and also concluded the case had no realistic chance of conviction.</p>
    On April 12, Halifax RCMP announced that “in light of new and credible information,” they were reopening the investigation. Spokesman Cpl. Scott MacRaesaid at the time the information didn’t come “from an online source” and that the person is willing to “work with police.’’</p>
    But the original police and prosecutors didn’t have that.</p>
    What they had was a complainant whose evidence was all over the map, independent evidence that supported the notion that any sex was consensual, and no evidence that Rehtaeh was so drunk that she couldn’t consent: The case was a mess.</p>
    But the names of four boys are online anyway — one a boy who wasn’t even at the party and who went public to defend himself last week.</p>
    And when family and friends of the alleged rapists put up posters reminding Haligonians “There are two sides to every story” and begging them to “Listen before you judge,” the posters were quickly ripped down, the families excoriated.

    But there are two sides, even to this wrenching tale.</p>
    The changes underway in Nova Scotia and on the horizon in Ottawa might be necessary; they might be good. They might even help prevent the sort of harm that was done to Rehtaeh: God knows, social media is so vicious it might be better called anti-social media.</p>
    But it isn’t so simple, what happened to her. It isn’t so clear that she was abused, let alone by two boys or three or four, let alone by the justice system.
    cblatchford@postmedia.com

    #26054
    MagicStarBunny
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    Be careful MGTOWs. This case is a perfect archetype for the future of relations with Canadian women. When her feelz are offended, even years after the fact, in an un-related incident, she or her ‘friends’ will work their hardest to find you guilty of something. Notice the x-boyfriend isn’t mentioned at all? I am willing to bet that the cause of the breakup was over the events that transpired at the party. If this isn’t the perfect reason to transition from a PUA into an MGTOW in Canada, I don’t know what is.

    Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. The dead body of Rateh Parsons didn’t convict those boys, the people that used it did.

     

    The only way to avoid this tragedy from happening again: Don’t date or interact with Canadian women on any meaningful level.

    Pardon me

    I have Aspergers for cases of injustice.

     

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    Voidraithe
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    I’m in the prairies and heard about the mess and my initial thought was:

    Oh crap, somehow this is going to impact every Canadian. I tried to find some real reporting on the issue and was initially suspicious of the timing of events. Then came groups calling for anti-bulling legislation, feminists shrieking rape culture and the information became the narrative they wanted.

    Thanks for this. I like truth.

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    Rennie
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    Bottom line is, she was a whore and a tramp. So was mandy.

    They were both unwilling to face the consequences of their actions so they offed themselves. That’s what cowards do.

    #26220
    Jack reacher
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    Thanks for this information. It is like the Duke Lacrosse story or the University of Virginia false rape accusations all over again and again.

    When in doubt, play the victim card, accuse a man of rape and cry patriarchal oppression, that magic and meaningless buzzword.

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