Rant to self

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

Rant

As I watch more videos and read more articles about various points of view in  the Manosphere  such as MRA, PUA,  MGTOW, Neo-Masculinity, Traditionalism, r/reddit you name it I can’t help notice the drama that occurs right under everybody noses. Well AVFM falsely promotes MGTOW, Roosh broke away from r/reddit and now is going crazy, SandMan disrespected all of his followers. While these may be correct it seems to get people nowhere fast.

First it was difficult to swallow the redpill but after awhile I wanted to know more. The truth has that effect on me and I became a sponge to r/reddit. Tossing out what I didn’t believe incorporating and analyzing those things I would have never realized. I even decided to go my own way without even really hearing about it too much. I just googled it one day and said hey that’s me. I felt good about things.

But recently I started watching videos again and have noticed the aspects I don’t like about it and I found myself getting caught up in the politics of petty debates.(Well at least from my perspective) I think its doing more harm than good for me. It’s the bickering and I’m questioning if learning more from people with agendas is such a good thing since I already understand so much. Unless I am truly talking to guys who have gone their own way I don’t get much from it. Granted I did find some good channels on Youtube and talking to you guys has been invaluable. But I feel to truly keep unplugged I need to let go of he said, she said, the foundations of society, the world wants to kill me stuff. Perhaps its me just evolving but it sounds a lot different than it used to.

“Hitting Bottom is not a weekend retreat, It’s not a goddamn seminar, stop trying to control everything and just let go, let go.” – Tyler Durden

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[RoyDalParticipant]

I’ve seen this called the bicker factor, although I cannot remember where I read up on it. People who are in agreement 90% of the time will bicker over the remaining 10%, even to the point of breaking up a mutually beneficial alliance.

I’ve known quite a few who devote themselves to finding trivia to start fights over. It seems to be a requirement for militants.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

RoyDal wrote:

I’ve seen this called the bicker factor, although I cannot remember where I read up on it. People who are in agreement 90% of the time will bicker over the remaining 10%, even to the point of breaking up a mutually beneficial alliance. I’ve known quite a few who devote themselves to finding trivia to start fights over. It seems to be a requirement for militants.

Yes it’s that 10% that’s the killer and as RD points out … it can be the bad apple for the other 90% of good.

I learned a long time ago that the best way to maintain the 90 is be a free man, say your piece on the 10% issue/question/statement and then step back.

That way you’ve said what you needed and let yourself be judged.

Bickering is for the girl’s. We are men. Say your words, stick by them and walk your path.

Don’t let flim flam divert you from your thoughts, truths, understanding or frame.

You have seen and expressed to us your fears … and that knowledge protects from that 10% of crap.

[narwhalParticipant]

I think it’s all a matter of perspective and context.  It’s seems men are much better at this then women, but we still have our short comings.  I personally am not a fan of PUA, at least the part when it comes to lying.  However, if I’m being honest, a lot of the advice and ‘technics’ is very good and effective, not just for picking up women, but in life in general.  For example, carrying yourself with confidence is rather habit forming and will draw attention from not just women, but gain respect from other men as well.    Credit is due in then regard and many others.  We also share common reasons for our actions in a lot of places.

I also do not see myself as perfect with all the answers.  Even if I’m right, my opinion doesn’t invalidate that of others, just because I’m convinced I’m right.  There are usually several different ways at looking at a problem, and to really understand the problem, you have to try on a different perspective.

Ok. Then do it.

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