Quitting the rat race / lowly jobs

[Anonymous 38]

Does anyone work in a lowly job, like a non-rat race type job?

Did anyone jack in their career to do this?

It’s a pretty MGTOW concept. I’m thinking Peter in Office Space (great MGTOW movie).

I have in the past been prone to romanticising this idea, but now I can imagine how it might be a legitimate option for me a few years from now.

For most I my life I looked at my ‘career’ through the blue pill lens. Now I couldn’t give two f~~~s what anyone thinks of my occupation. I don’t care about anyone’s opinion, any move I’d make would be for my own reasons.

Without the need to save money and earn enough to get a mortgage, I could drop down significantly in salary. Benefits would likely include less stress, more time for self, feeling less of a rat/like my soul’s being crushed, paying less tax 🙂 feeling less committed (job suck? quit and find another menial job), more variety in having lots of jobs. I could also easily quit to spend time travelling, which I am going to do at some point as I aim to write a memoir of my experiences.

I don’t hate my job all the time… I just feel like I’m waiting for death. My life outside work minimises this but I’m sure you know what I mean.

The only downside is less money and the main side-effect being a later ‘retirement’. But I should be in the position to retire by 50 even if I didn’t work, as my rental properties would be paid off by then.

Any thoughts?

[Anonymous 38]

Or would you recommend I just keep trying proper jobs until I find something I sort of like (is that possible, I don’t know)? There are a lot of older/more experienced guys on here so I appreciate any insights.

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

I am fortunate in that I enjoy my career, but I know where you are coming from mgtow_taoist. Done the maths and since the divorce my bills are less than a third of what they were when married, and that’s without kids! Financial benefits of MGTOW are –

* You money is YOURS, not OURS
* Rent/buy a dwelling that is practical and suits YOU, not the expensive place SHE wants to impress her friends (huge saving in interest and repayments here)
* No more fancy dinners out where you foot the bill for the cab, meal, drinks, club entry ect.
* No more birthday and Christmas presents for her and all of her family
* No more expensive holidays to the resorts and countries on HER to-do list. It’s all about YOUR list now!
* When SHE decides she wants to retire young (if she even works at all), YOU will not be expected to slave away for another 30 years while she has endless shopping and coffee dates with her friends.
* Decorate you home practically, not constantly buying new furnishings and appliances because they are the ‘lastest look’
* and the list goes on and on …

I could easily live on half my pay, though admittedly I would not be socking much away for retirement or for investments. It’s a lottery – work hard and save for a 401K/superannuation and die before even accessing it, or phone-it-in, earn less, stress less and hope that the taxpayer-funded pension system still exists when you hit 70. The golden upside is that as a MGTOW you have the choice, unlike all the married-with-children Beta-simp wage-slaves out there who feel like they don’t have the option. I try and find a balance by turning down overtime (less tax), declining external jobs (that’s my time), and minimizing debt-load and interest paid to banks.
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#ManOut

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t hate my job all the time… I just feel like I’m waiting for death.

The whole idea that “work” is supposed to be following your passion Blah, Blah, Blah, is all just Matrix driven crap for the young and dumb to Spend HUGE dollars on worthless degrees to keep the college DIPLOMA INDUSTRY in BUSINESS.

ANYTHING that a human does 40 -60 hours a week is going to turn into work after awhile. It’s going to get old.

If you’re making decent cash, can TOLERATE the work, and are steadily employed with benefits; just what else do you expect out of a job ?

If you mature, and reach financial independence, and want to kick it down a notch or two then go for it THEN, and by all means if you can retire at a young age and have a LIFESTYLE THAT WORKS FOR YOU then your current job can only make that happen that much quicker.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[The Black ScorpionParticipant 2143]

All work sucks, that’s why we get paid to do it.

Everyone thinks the grass is always greener on the other side, but that is not always the case.

Weigh the pros and cons of your present job and then decide to move or stay put.

The greatest tragedy in life is to spend your whole life fishing only to discover that it was not fish you were after. - Henry David Thoreau

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

I quit my job about 5 years ago just to end up back at the same job 18 months later. It was a nice break but I was ready to go back after nearly 2 years off. Luckily it was within 2 years so I didn’t have to get full retraining. If you’re thinking about quitting maybe think about taking a vacation or some extended time off first – for mental health. I quit because I was so stressed out dealing with my relations~~~… Since I felt like it was over I thought why do I need to work, but actually it helped me get rid of cupcake when I didn’t have a job.. She was p~~~ed when she found out I was getting unemployment like she was missing out on those resources.. Then I got my job back and it was a nice slap in her face! Women.. they just want your resources.

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[Anonymous 14]

OZ-Bloke summed it up pretty well. Shed your ego and go NFG and do what is best for you.

[Anonymous 12]

Kind of yes. It’s not all that lowly paid, ironically people who I work with who have more responsibility get paid less than I do. But that is because I am a shift worker.

I was a manager years back twice actually and it never worked well for me. I never felt rewarded on a personal or employment level for stepping up. I am also not good at nor do I enjoy all the games and bulls~~~ that you have to play in these roles.

I’m happier just being a “s~~~ kicker” as we call it down here, a menial worker who performs his tasks and then goes home.

I’m offered promotions regularly and I decline as I do not wish to work 5 days a week. I currently do 10 & 12 hour shifts and get more than 2 days off a week. I am also on a roster that allows for a 2 week break by taking 3 days off in the right place.

Why would I want to wreck that?

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

I worked in a consulting capacity for about a decade, then went back to full time. I ran a business outside of my field for that decade as well.

I would say it’s not necessarily either-or; at least in my profession, there is quite a range of opportunities; the most highly paid involve traveling, managing people, etc. Others, within driving range, pay less and have fixed hours. When the whistle blows, you’re out the door. One aspect of these types of companies, if you actually DO anything extraordinary, you are really noticed for it.

I would have a sit-down with management and ask if they’re agreeable to, say, you working 4 days a week for 75% of what you’re making now, with benefits. Their answer MIGHT surprise you; I also did this for a while when I was running my own business. I’ve worked at numerous jobs where some staff was semi-retired and only worked a few days a week.

Also, keep in mind you don’t HAVE to work for somebody; consider being an entrepreneur. If you’re REALLY miserable, you can always sell the rental properties, and live modestly, or perhaps, live in the basement of one if it has one, so you aren’t required to earn so much to afford rental property mortgages, etc.

Is the problem WHAT you do, WHERE you do it (colleagues, bulls~~~ politics, s~~~ management, etc), how LONG you do it, etc?

If you feel like you’re ‘waiting for death’, as you stated, you need to change jobs! Or careers.

[Anonymous 38]

Awakened wrote:

If you’re making decent cash, can TOLERATE the work, and are steadily employed with benefits; just what else do you expect out of a job ?

I guess I want the kind of job where I don’t have to pretend to give a s~~~. Generally, the more you earn the more f~~~s you have to give. I am a middle manager right now which is probably the worst thing for my personality type! It has taken a while to learn about myself – it was sort of easy in the military but working in the corporate rat race world has been a whole different ball game.

Oz-Bloke wrote:

I am fortunate in that I enjoy my career, but I know where you are coming from mgtow_taoist. Done the maths and since the divorce my bills are less than a third of what they were when married, and that’s without kids!

FrankOne wrote:

Is the problem WHAT you do, WHERE you do it (colleagues, bulls~~~ politics, s~~~ management, etc), how LONG you do it, etc?

If you feel like you’re ‘waiting for death’, as you stated, you need to change jobs! Or careers.

I cannot stand the politics, the morons, women, simps, the bulls~~~, and the work is getting boring now. But I have trapped myself somewhat temporarily, as I am studying a masters part time which work are funding and giving me time off for. Objectively I shouldn’t be complaining but I’m really tired of this job and wanting out.

Ideally I’d be a business owner, but I’ve never had any good ideas. Maybe one will come in time.

The fact that some of you enjoy your jobs or can at least tolerate them without feeling as I do, gives me hope I can do the same. I can only keep trying new stuff, there is no issue with changing jobs every couple years these days I guess. For now I will hold out while I study and keep the advice in mind.

Thank you gents.

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