QUESTION: How big has the MGTOW movement actually gotten?

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

This isn’t a movement per say. MGTOW is more of a logical conclusion that you reach. Once you see the system for what it is, you choose to have nothing to do with it. Men are nothing more than dispensable utility, and this gynocracy will see that this paradigm will never change. MRAs wish to change this, but this is a pipe dream. We see it for what is, and we go our own way. Hope that clarifies your OP.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[joetechParticipant]

Over the decades I’ve learned that most men are aware of the divorce trap and just don’t talk about it. In the 70’s when I was getting married and divorced we heard about the multiple divorces of celebrities like Johnny Carson, the Lee Marvin palimony suit, and later Burt Reynolds and Loni Anderson. I started hearing all about the red pill(although we didn’t call it that back then) when I started going through my divorce. Nowadays with Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp in the news it hasn’t changed except for one big difference…the internet. Young people are networking like never before because of it, and that includes young boys and young men. MGTOW is a result of that networking and it doesn’t take a vivid imagination to see young boys growing up without their fathers watching silently as their moms do things we all find reprehensible. These boys will grow into men with access to the internet everyday. They will see the education system break down as it has already done, and will draw their conclusions accordingly. What MGTOW is today is only a shadow of what it will become tomorrow. In the meantime, I meet many men who have won custody in their divorces, and still others that have sworn off the plantation. I think the number of MGTOW men in the world is much larger than the membership of our tiny site. 22,000 members worldwide isn’t that big, but men who go their own way rarely join anything. It’s in our nature. For those of us willing to put in the time and effort here, who knows how many unregistered users click here everyday to get a dose of experience? Call it a movement, or phenomena we are a reflection of what society has created and we will always be around.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

I came here to say that i am not a member of any movement but i saw that it was already nicely explained by other men.

As per size, there is imo at least 10 mgtow for every 1 that knows the term so it is pretty big. And we all came to the same conclusion, modern “liberated” woman does not pass the cost/benefit analysis.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[RASmanParticipant 1994]

Not a movement, but not big enough. It’s an awareness and philosophy that contradicts the “norms” of our culture to the point that it doesn’t seem credible; yet, it is for those who have enough sense of reality to see what is actually occurring. Some learn from teaching, some from seeing other’s mistakes, some from their own mistakes, some only after numerous self mistakes. Some never. Going their entire lifetime without a female companion seems totally bizarre and many men believe the myth that to have one leads to wonderful sex and comfort. We know that this is false. You pay for the sex and it continually declines in frequency and quality as the pounds go up and price goes up. Other than that; nothing.

Men, you are wallets and butt boys doing the heavy lifting and saying “Yes’m”.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

You’ll know when we’ve gained traction – the MSM will come down on us with hit piece after hit piece.

[Anonymous 12]

It does seem that more and more women are “frustrated” as of late which is a good sign, and marriage rates do seem to indicate that MGTOW is indeed growing. However, I wonder at times just how big this movement actually is.

Pause for a moment.
Frustrated women.. a good sign? a bad sign?
can be “good” to make mgtow grow as a number of men opting out. sure.

But…
does it really matter?
You are not going your way, your path untill you care only about your path.
as long as you look at what the women do, as long as you care for their level of frustraion or happyness…
you care.

Mgtow is, among other things, an invitation to not care for the happyness of women any more.

It is impossible to count these sorts of men in numbers, because of the refusal to create a clear definition.
MGTOW is vague on purpose. it is a Mind thing.
A clear definition would put a target on our back.
we chose not to do that either.

But how do we know?

We do not.
it does not matter either.
what maters is each individual saying NO to this woman´s world and their enablers.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

MGTOW are not a movement.

MGTOW are a phenomenon.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

when there is a law passed, I will rise up and fight back, leaving the last round in the cylinder for myself.

I’m perfectly harmless and content in my current state of no-f~~~s-given freedom, but if the plantation chooses to force me, a sociopathic genius, to go out with guns blazing, then so be it. Those f~~~ers will regret messing with me . . . the ones who are still alive, that is.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

I think it’s going to boom with the boys born between 2000 and 2010.
For what I know, through my 13 yo son, most boys his age are somewhat aware of the trap within marriage contract and some have even a quite precise idea of female nature.
Their problem is that in most cases boys react trying embracing traditional “masculinist” views, and that’s an huge error.
My son sometimes complains that his schoolmates are “sexist”, but with this word he meant something entirely different from the common meaning – for him “sexist” means:
“you’re blaming women the wrong way, you’re likely to be punished ot get in troubles for that”.
I taught him that being wise means knowing the traps and being ready to dodge the bullets, even being ready to say “I’m gay” at the right moment against the right person.

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