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what should a MGTOW do if a gf asks to move in? how can a MGTOW stay away from common law marriage while still being in a somewhat serious relationship? can someone provide a link for common law marriage laws in Canada?
this question is very important for anyone who considers themselves a level one MGTOW.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
what should a MGTOW do if a gf asks to move in?
Say no.
Edit.
Look. I’m 48 years old. Just finished my bachelor’s degree after retiring from the Army. I am trying to get a first look at grad school but don’t think that’s going to happen. At any rate. I still have two kids in the house, a big screen TV in the living room, and a good whiskey in the bar. There is not one doily in sight.
I have few bills, I’m making triple payments on the house, I make home-made meals most every evening. I have my own schedule, free time, and priorities.
I recently broke up with a FWB specifically because she asked to move in. I was not and am not now about to become some chica’s free room and board. The moving in question, when posed by a woman, is another way of saying “Are you ready to take care of me now?” The answer is No.
The moving in question is the first step towards a period of regret. I don’t care what she says and how sincere she says it.
Many moons ago I was seeing this girl. I let her know that our relationship only went so far and that she needs to understand that. Three months later, I have orders for a new assignment. I informed her of this and there was much wailing and gnashing of the teeth from her about my leaving without her. I gave not one f~~~.
Ask yourself one question. Can you have a ‘serious’ relationship and still be a MGHOW?
To regain focus, read the archives and go through the introductions pages.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
Say “NO”.
Do NOT let her move in.
Do NOT let her leave clothes/jewelry behind.
Do NOT let her “crash for a few days until she moves into a new apartment”.
Do NOT let her forward/deliver her mail to your address (she can then claim residency)
DO NOT GIVE HER A KEY!!!Don’t do it. It will only lead to problems for you. She has you by the gonads if she lives in your house. Even if you guys aren’t subject to common law marriage laws in Canada, she still has the ability to ruin your life in one PMS raging moment.
If she calls abuse on you, then you will be kicked out of your house. If she doesn’t, then she will more likely than not start trying to control you more.
That being said, I know I can’t tell you what to do, but I can 99% guarantee you that every other man who replies here is going to echo some variation of the above opinions. It is not worth the risk, and if she gets pregnant by you somehow, then you will be absolutely screwed for basically the rest of your life.
She may be nice and sweet now, but she will not stay that way forever, unless she truly is a unicorn. Remember the most unpleasant thing she ever did, now multiply the magnitude of it by three, and THEN extend that over 5 years, and that is what you are likely getting into.
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
what should a MGTOW do if a gf asks to move in?
Use the Tom Leykis trick” “Honey, what we have is so great, I don’t want to ruin it.”
Not worth it. I’m sure the tail is great or you wouldn’t even be considering it, but if you ever let her move in almost guaranteed you’ll wish you hadn’t.
That said: Just say no. If she’s not ok with living her own life and you living yours in separate dwellings, she’s clearly trying to use/trap/gold dig you. If living in your own places isn’t good enough, then she has and agenda / alterior motives.
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
The moving in question, when posed by a woman, is another way of saying “Are you ready to take care of me now?” The answer is No.
This.
Here is Canada’s common law marriage definition, but I understand that in some circumstances this can be reduced to 6 months! This is bats~~~ crazy stuff from the Gov of Can, but there you have it. Live together for 6 months, and she’s entitled to your stuff.
Don’t let her move it, please!! Don’t give her a key. Don’t get a joint bank account. Don’t actually give her any money, as she can use that as evidence that you are in a serious relationship and you are already supporting her (the inference being that you should go on supporting her for the rest of her life!) Everything XSDBS said, and more. Keep your life clean. By all means have a gf. Just know that you are stepping into the biggest pile of s~~~ you could potentially never get out of.
If she moves in you are giving her your house.
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I’m gonna go with a big NO on this one.
I’m in a very similar situation but since I have experience backing me I know well what to do, and I’m doing it:
DO.NOT.LET.HER.MOVE.IN.
NEVER.
DO.NOT.GIVE.HER.THE.KEYS.
NEVER.The woman I have a relationship since last March seems the best woman I’ve ever meet. Not the most beautiful, nor the smartest one. But the one with the best character.
Though, she’s divorced, she live in the apartment she bought together with her former husband (who therefore totally lost it even if he had paid at least 60%-70% of it) and she receive some money from her former husband: the sum is very reasonable, okay, but still she has no moral problems receiving money EVEN IF SHE HAVE A FULL TIME JOB and they haven’t kids.Apparently, the only trouble between us is EXACTLY the fact that she wish to live with me, and I don’t want let her move in.
Apparently, in Italy the law is much fairer than in Canada: if she live with you and then there’s a split she would take financial support from you just only for the very same time you had live with her: have you cohabited for 3 motnhs? You’ll give her financial support for just only 3 months. Have you cohabited with her for 3 years? Financial support for 3 years, and no more.
It seems a fair trade for having had the “privilege” to live with her.
Apparently.Still, no way.
I know well how these things can works.
I’ll never give her the key.
I’ll never let her move in.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I agree completely with the chorus of noes in the previous posts.
Dump her for a younger, stronger, more independent replacement. Or, train yourself to do without — think of all the money you will save versus her taking your house and half your money. Don’t think she won’t.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
That answer.is Nooooo
However if she’ll move in, my suggestion is to gave her your home. Immediatly.
At least you will not pay taxes on the house when she’ll finally steal it.
Men continue to pay taxes on the houses assigned to the women, you know?SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Just Find A Woman You Hate And Buy Her A House
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
You sounds like you really like this women and she’s better than 99 % of women out there. However, you probably know this won’t end well for you if she does move in, perhaps things will start out well but will slowly get worse.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
I have some expertise on this matter. I’m Canadian and I lived in a Common Law relationship with a woman for eight years. The others commenting here are correct. Don’t. Don’t do it period.
Common Law marriage in Canada is regarded as exactly equivalent to marriage and covered by both Federal and Provincial Law.. In fact the wording in the law is “marriage like unions” Federally you are regarded as living Common Law after three years of cohabitation. Provinces write more strict laws. Most Provinces now regard living together for two years as being Common Law marriage. But in BC there is even a move to reduce this to one year and even six months. In fact the courts are already using this time period. It is a ploy to trap men into the laws governing marriage and divorce because men were getting away with what the government felt were no obligations by living Common Law. Most women went on welfare. .
In a Common Law Marriage, the female has all the rights as a married woman. She qualifies for alimony and child support and a split on all your assets (usually she gets better than 50%). That includes, house, car, holiday home, lottery winnings, pension plan, RRSP, TFSA, etc., etc, etc, In fact in most cases the judge will award you both 50% of the joint home no matter who paid for it. So she starts off with 50% of your home for starters. However, you will not get your half if there are kids involved. She will be given full use of the home because the kids need a home. You go find a cardboard box somewhere. The judge will then tell you that you are responsible for the mortgage payments, property taxes, and possibly repairs and utilities, even though you don’t live in the home. He will then tell you that when the kids are of age or no longer going to university, or she marries, then the house may be sold and the profits split. Then you will get your half, less one-half of all the mortgage payments paid. All the provinces have laws that are about the same.
If this has not convinced and you still want to hand her your b~~~~, then for Christ sake go to a lawyer and get a Cohabitation Agreement that reads like the Encyclopaedia Britannica (about $400).. They have ready made ones but you want something that protects you completely should there be a breakdown in arrangements even if there are children involved.. And don’t ever let her be a Stay at Home Mom. Make sure she pays for half of everything. So when the split comes, you won’t feel so bad and believe me the split will come.
Just Find A Woman You Hate And Buy Her A House
My ex-wife had a panic crisis when, after the separation, she discovered that she had to pay all the taxes on the family house (80% paid by me, but totally owned by her) 🙂
If you understand that when you marry she’s legally entitled to about 75% family assets, then transferring at least 50% ownership to her is just a winning strategic move, because when the split I’ll come she’ll have to pay a lot of taxes.
My family house was more than 180 sqm, classified semi-luxury.
Now I still have two houses on my own, 90 sqm and 110 sqm, both classified average: the total sum of taxes I pay for both is less than the taxes that my ex-wife is paying on the family house.
If family house would have been mine I would have paid all the taxes on it.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Value of a MAN isn’t the usefulness that females get from him. Avoiding living with a female, a MAN is not rejecting a lot of sex: he’s rejecting sexual starvation.
Nice post and tag line. It sounds like your ex was shortsighted.
Though, I would like to comment.
A man lives alone because he is rejecting betrayal.
Value of a MAN isn’t the usefulness that females get from him. Avoiding living with a female, a MAN is not rejecting a lot of sex: he’s rejecting sexual starvation.
Nice post and tag line. It sounds like your ex was shortsighted.
Though, I would like to comment.
A man lives alone because he is rejecting betrayal.
My ex wife is a tradcon, college professor but shortsighted by her being tradcon. Still, she was infected by some feminist ideas.
The good thing is that I have foresaw that the crisis between us would have only get worse and worse, and the likely outcomes. So I splitted when I still was in a non-totally weak position. That’s why I don’t pay money to her but only for the children. Still, she took family house and money for children, and I had to totally rebuild my life when instead not so much changed for her.
For having such results, bad but still far better than average, I used a complex strategy: I paid both my lawyer and her lawyer. But my lawyer was the very best one, specialized in divorces, her lawyer was very good but specialized in….car accidents 🙂 within the court, in front of a female judge, I was represented by two female lawyers and she was represented by a male lawyer – in other words there were more females on my side than on her said – psychological tactic, it worked fine. And so on.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
thanks for all your responses, i DO NOT want kids so child support stuff won’t affect me…….however, everything else mentioned here is very useful information…….thanks a lot guys!
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
My answer is no. Do not let her move in or stay for more than a night. Checkout time is at 11 (You aren’t a Holiday Inn) and do not give her a copy of the key. Once you move her in the only way you are getting away from her is if you move out.
Does she know when your lease expires? Does she know the terms of your lease? If she doesn’t then you have some wiggle room here. Once you tell her “no” she is going to be cold. If you tell her that your lease doesn’t allow it then it’s not really your fault. You could also say that it’s in your lease not to make duplicate keys. If her reaction is to blame you and get p~~~ed then you KNOW what you are in for if you were to co-habitate with her.
No matter what though DO NOT LET HER MOVE IN!Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
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