Question..

[HitmanParticipant]

i have a question..
my friend is visiting me and i showed him the site here a few months back..
he is with his 17 year old son.
do i let the young man see the site?
i’ll probably ask his dad but wondering ,
what would you guys recommend..
is 17 too young ?
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his folks are divorcing and he’s a smart guy..
what would you do ?

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Brother Hitman.

Knowledge is power. Put it in context for him.

This is no different than a calculus website.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[HitmanParticipant]

well said Jan.
i needed that ..
thanks friend !

[chirParticipant]

Its tough to introduce a young man to the red pill until they have had the opportunity to really get f~~~ed over by modern women. I would simply tell him to police his sperm, always wrap that sausage. When you stick it in the meat taco you have no idea how many other hot dogs have traveled the same road.
At that age his hormones are in overdrive so his mental subtext is “F~~~ F~~~ F~~~”. When he partakes of enough modern women he will be back with questions. First one will be “WTF!”

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[HitmanParticipant]

chir wrote:

I would simply tell him to police his sperm, always wrap that sausage. When you stick it in the meat taco you have no idea how many other hot dogs have traveled the same road.

thanks chir..
may be a bit much for him..
i don’t think the kid got his dick wet yet..

[HitmanParticipant]

they will be here within minutes..
i appreciate the help !!!

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Just to echo some of the other sentiments, I would keep it to the basics.

1.) If a women’s lips are moving, she’s lying.
2.) Guard your sperm. It’s an 18+ year sentence. Never trust a chick with birth control.
3.) Never live with a girl or marry her. You will loose 1/2 of what you had/have/will have.
4.) The law is not fair or reasonable.

But, like most things in life, he has to get screwed over once to truly understand and believe. Everyone thinks they are the exception that broke the rule. Hopefully this lesson comes early in life, and has limited damage, but teaches the lesson.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Well if it’s any consolation, a 13 year old female wrote to us 2 days ago and said:

DIRECT QUOTE:

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This is simply something that I would like to address: The human brain is usually not fully developed until around age 24-27. Therefore, humans under those ages most likely have opinions that are more prone to change than those of humans over that age. What I am trying to get at is that, if MGTOW ever wanted to recruit people — which you have stated that they don’t — but if MGTOW ever wants to do this in the future, then I suggest that you target people under those ages to influence with your opinion, since they should be more easily influenced than adults, and probably have more open minds than adults. Doing that would also be a good idea because (I believe that) lately, feminists have been influencing young people, so I’d just like you to know that there are so many young people out there that are unfortunately under the strong influence of feminism that the media shoves onto them, but MGTOW could redirect them away from that trap.
Thank you for listening to my address.
-Anonymous 13 year old female

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Now I don’t actually believe she is a 13 year old female – because what 13 year old female is aware or preoccupied with feminism? And what 13 year old says “thank you for listening to my address”? But it makes no difference because we MUST take her word at face value. At least at first.

I answered personally…..

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2016.08.02

Thank you for your interest and for contacting. It is not our intention to “influence”. That is the intention of marketers, advertisers, feminists, the pop music industry, film, television, talk shows, Oprah……

DE- programming is why we are here.
So that visitors can make up their OWN minds.

Some will run screaming for the hills…. and others will think they have arrived at “home”. The point is to make up your OWN mind. Like it or hate it.

then I suggest that you target people under those ages to influence with your opinion,

It’s not an “opinion”. MGTOW is very much grounded in reality. And we don’t need to “target” anyone – including the young people. Even you signed your name “13 year old female”.

That shows 13 year olds are just as able to question things and are capable of making up their OWN minds. You may not be a fully responsible adult but you can certainly question Disney Fairy tales , Santa and the Easter Bunny.

You will either embrace them … or you will not.
All it takes …. . is the WILL.

To “INFLUENCE” is what everyone ELSE is doing.
Thank you.
MGTOW.COM | Men Going Their Own Way

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So is 17 too young? Let the 17 year-old decide.
A female who was 13 seemed coherent enough to distribute advice.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[HitmanParticipant]

thank you KM…
your response is greatly appreciated.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Show him the facts, show him the site which has all the facts conveniently collected in one place, and let him make his own assessment.

We are not trying to recruit anyone, just inform them. MGTOW doesn’t need to recruit men to GTOW. Feminism does that job well enough already.

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

How did it go?

[RoyDalParticipant]

I am late to this party but I’m going to chime in anyway.

That young man will be old enough to die for his country in a few months. Surely he is old enough to read the posts on a website.

I am all for disseminating knowledge. If he is willing, then he will benefit. If not, then he will surf elsewhere on the net.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Eric LauderParticipant 12053]

My 12 yo son sometimes read this site, and he knows I’m here.
It’s actually a good thing for him: he improved his performances at school and he beginned to cook something, because he wish to grow fully independent from women.
Beside: the guy have no problems with girls. Now the year is done, he’s on vacation, but during last year there were in his classroom two mini-c~~~s, 12 yo like him, quarreling on a daily basis for him. They shouted each other words like “whore” and even harsher italian words for “prostitute”. There have been even a fight between the two little girls. My son kissed both (for both girls it had been the very first kiss on the mouth of their life) but he don’t bother so much about them. He’s like a mini-PUA and that’s a good start since he’s just only 12, don’t practice sport and even have some weight in excess…I wonder about what will happen around 15 when he’ll lose weight and he’ll begin to use the gym… 😀

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[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Show him the site.

17 is nowhere near too young. if it were my son, I would probably have him in front of the screen when he was 10. It’s not like you’re forcing him into a religion, you’re telling him about this site and what MGTOW is. It’s better that he learn it here than anywhere else if you ask me.

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[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Absolutely you should introduce him to this site. He can learn so many things and learn if nothing else how to be a man for many different. He can learn what to watch for when dealing with woman and how to handle a variety of situations when they come up from a female.

KM, I like how you handled the situation with the “13 yo girl”. You didn’t challenge the claim that she was 13 instead of an adult. As well as as patiently explaining things.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[experiencedParticipant]

YES!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 11]

I would at least give him the how things really work rundown and let him know about this pace. At 17, we all were just wanting to get our wicks wet.

I probably would have ignored it at that age as I thought I knew everything, but any MGTOW exposure would have sped things up for me 15 to 25 years. If you can at least get AWALT engraved in his skull, he will be so far ahead of the game. What is there to lose?

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Yes, tell him the truth. As I mentioned in my introduction, when I was about 15-16 years old, a married man at the local feed mill took me aside and told me the truth about marriage. As mentioned above, we think we will be the exception. However, later I happened upon Esther Vilar’s book, and found out he was correct. The more you interact with women, the more you see the truth about them. Both of those early experiences saved me a lifetime of grief.

[narwhalParticipant]

I don’t think 17 is too young to see this, however the kid is not my son, nor is he yours. You said the father is coming along with him, so let his father decide. You can absolute suggest it to Dad, but I would not go around Dad. As a father myself, that would absolutely p~~~ me off, I don’t care what kind of noble intentions you may have.

A common theme around here is to mind your own business. I don’t see why the same principle wouldn’t apply here. Now, if you find out that the 17 year old is in danger of making a big mistake, such as getting a girl pregnant, that would be different. Even then though, I wouldn’t just show him the site, I’d talk to Dad about your concerns and offer to talk to the kid if that’s alright with him.

Of course, you don’t need to act ‘blue pill’ or keep your mouth entirely shut either. Nothing wrong with stating your opinion in off hand conversations.

Ok. Then do it.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

I’d tell him about everything I knew if it were me. Most parents would reject the idea outright, especially if they’re married. Plus, he’s f~~~ing 17 years old. In another year, he’ll be 18 and he’ll be considered as an “adult” by the court system at that age. At least that way, when he does eventually turn 18, he’ll know how to avoid all the gynocentric minefields society has placed.

I think all boys/men should learn about MGTOW once they start kindergarden. That way, they’re better equipped to handle the “real world” and be ahead of the curb at a younger age.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

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