Purpose of having children?

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  • #347090
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    Psl47
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    Alright , so i was thinking for few weeks about this now.
    And id like to know what you guys think.
    So ill start:
    Is the purpose of life to have children ?
    But why my child will be so special than the others ?
    There is 7 billion people on planet .. how my child can be better than the others and do better than the others?
    Isnt it dangerous in todays world with killers, molesters ( and not only men ar so, okay ? Woman are also killers and molesters ) f~~~ed up education witch is out dated centuries ago. Wars and bombings … MEDIA?..
    I feel like its safer to actualy save the child and dont let him/her born ( save the seed ) rather than get it form a woman with unknown history of her life.

    And finaly, i am not some kind of emperor or either my family tree had anything important for history.
    So basicly no one would give a f~~~ if will i have a child or not …
    And … we die alone no matter how many friends or children we have…

    So i might be missing a lot of key points here , but please feel free to criticize and place your opinion here

    Thank you

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    #347094
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    Wally
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    I had a thought when I was a kid sitting in church-why would people bring a child into this world when the likelihood of going to hell was very high? And yet I looked all around me and people were so excited about some woman’s pregnancy, made no sense.

    Of course there is a purpose to have children but that purpose right now is currently not needed because as you said we have 7 billion people.

    "what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

    #347098
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    Psl47
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    Great answer , and the pregnancy part, you are so spot on sir. Its like WTF so magical about that .. every one is jumping around , and making a big deal from it .. its so annoying.

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    #347133
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    Jan Sobieski
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    Pass on your genes.

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    #347136
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    Akanbi
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    A big part of me desires to have children just because after my death, I will know that someone/people is/are carrying my genes…and on and on….

    But like you guys stated, the chances of suffering (of any kind) is high.

    Besides, the mother of my children might just use the children as a means to extract resources from me.

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    If only I will be able to enter a legal contract with my children’s mother where she will agree to be nothing but my mate and when she’s done bearing my children…and nurturing them, she will no longer be my responsibility and she can move on with her life while I have FULL custody of the children.

    My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.
    #347139
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    Narrow road traveler
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    A new life is a blank canvas. A human you can love and hopefully find the meaning of life as well.

    That’s what always fueled my mental furnace. I could never comprehend women murdering 1 billion babies ever. That’s the smacabe reality I habe to live with as I walk this earth.

    The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

    #347142
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    JollyMisanthrope
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    From a basic biological standpoint it’s for those strong enough to survive the tests of mother nature to pass on their superior genes and ensure the survival of the species.

    From a human standpoint it’s to bring new life into the world to nurture, raise and teach so that they can grow up to have a fulfilling life.

    The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
    #347159
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    Narwhal
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    Is the purpose of life to have children ?

    It can be, but I wouldn’t recommend anyone make it their entire purpose.

    But why my child will be so special than the others ?

    Why is any person you know more special then others? If you think of it that way, it’s a silly question really.

    There is 7 billion people on planet .. how my child can be better than the others and do better than the others?

    Why does your child need to be better then everyone else?

    Isnt it dangerous in todays world with killers, molesters ( and not only men ar so, okay ? Woman are also killers and molesters ) f~~~ed up education witch is out dated centuries ago. Wars and bombings … MEDIA?..

    Either you watch too much tv, or you live in a really bad part of the world. Where I live is not perfect, but protecting my kids from harm is not an overwhelming task.

    I feel like its safer to actualy save the child and dont let him/her born ( save the seed ) rather than get it form a woman with unknown history of her life.

    That doesn’t make sense. You cannot protect something that doesn’t exist. You cannot claim you care about something that doesn’t exist.

    If you don’t want to have children, then don’t. If you don’t want the responsibility, or don’t feel like you are capable, then don’t. If you have not found a woman you want to have kids with, or don’t feel like the law allows you to care for your kids the way you want to, then don’t have kids.

    The idea that those who chose not to have kids have some sort of moral high ground over those that do or want to have kids comes off as ridiculous to me. It sounds just as ridiculous as the idea that those with kids or married are better people then those without.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #347204
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    RASman
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    We’re biologically programmed to procreate. It’s a successful yet cruel system; the species survives yet the least desirable who have no hope of finding a mate are just as compelled to reproduce as the most desirable.

    Social benefits? Heirs and kids to work the fields and take care of you when you get old.

    #347246
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    PistolPete
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    A big part of me desires to have children just because after my death, I will know that someone/people is/are carrying my genes…and on and on….

    Akanbi has stated a great truth. The only real legacy anyone has is children. I’ve had this argument with the aging crusty c~~~ feminista crowd. They think if they become some big CEO, or other big-shot that they’ve “arrived”…climbed the ladder—broken the glass ceiling etc. I’ve explained to them that when they die—and they will (oddly they have trouble believing this) but I digress, when they die what exactly do they leave behind? Nothing. That nameplate on the door with your fat-cat title will be removed and replaced by someone else and in a week you’re not even a memory.

    Now I don’t have any children; not because I didn’t want any but rather none of the female ruling elite deemed me to be acceptable. As a Catholic you get a lot of pressure from the clergy to pro-create…not because they really like kids but they want $$$ and they only get $$$ when the congregation grows. A priest tried to tell me once about my “duty” to raise a family in the church…I told him find me a traditional wife and not some entitled c~~~ riding a c~~~ carousel and I might.

    In any event I understand the urge to leave something behind of value to prove you’ve lived and contributed. I guess if one is a writer or artist that is easy to do. I’m neither. But I am a gunsmith and I do take particular satisfaction in creating/restoring any firearm because I know it will last. In September I restored a Schmidt-Ruben rifle made in 1899–it is pristine and perfect in every way. A century from now it will still be shot and admired. And if anyone bothers to take off the butt-plate they will find a little piece of paper–with my name on it taking credit for the creation they are enjoying.

    Its not much of a legacy but I’ll take it.

    #347254
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    Psl47
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    PistolPete, I think that what you are doing is great. Because it sounds like youre doing the thing, witch a lot of people might search for the story about.
    Rather just haveing a kid , who you dont know, how is he/she gonna reflect your name into the world.
    Offcourse you want him/her to be good person.. but there is always chances…
    So at this point , its kind of better to leave something material ?

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    #347260
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    PistolPete
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    Rather just haveing a kid , who you dont know, how is he/she gonna reflect your name into the world.

    Exactly: Just think of Adolf’s proud parents!

    #347264
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    Psl47
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    Rather just haveing a kid , who you dont know, how is he/she gonna reflect your name into the world.

    Exactly: Just think of Adolf’s proud parents!

    Yah….

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    #347277
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    Biggvs_Dickvs
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    This might sound weird, but for me it was the funnest and coolest thing I’ve ever done. Really.

    Keep in mind, you absolutely MUST pick someone to do it with that ir more on the “Fargo people” end of the spectrum than the “kardashian end.” If you’re not sure what I mean by that, dig through my earlier posts.

    Also bear in mind I’ve spent a lot of time around animals and raising them, so raising my own offspring was a joy not a burden.

    I’ve done a lot of work on cars too – engine swaps, rebuilds etc. I can’t for the life of me imagine why ANYONE would think of that as a fun hobby, no matter what the end result. The wrench slipping and you tear open your hand, oil and grease getting on your face, etc etc etc.

    Yet we all get it when someone says they love to restore old cars, that it’s their passion.

    Same thing with kids when I hear about the tribulations of having to change diapers and crying at night – the overall experience is something I really enjoyed, and the negatives people talk about were minor at best.

    But like restoring cars, you do have to put the time and effort in to get a good result. You can’t half ass it or it will fall apart to s~~~.

    Lie getting to show off you’re newly restored hotrod, I get to point at my happy, well adjusted, and fun to be around kid and tell people how she was able to change an alternator by herself at 14. And complete an advanced computer class (for kids, but still) at an Ivy league.

    You get the idea.

    For me, it was just something I always wanted to do, and I try to enjoy every minute of it.

    "Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

    #347295
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    Eyeswideopen
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    From a biological standpoint it is to pass on your genes. But man is a thinking ape; for most it is to build a sense of legacy – at least it was. Feminism has reduced men to ATM-sperm donors- children are pawns for cash, benefits and an excuse not to work.

    As a man in North American I have no ability to guide and correct my children; I have no paternal rights. At one point a man’s legacy was reflected in the grooming of his children – now his children are raised by the “community”. F~~~ that.

    Growing up, I was rambunctious, adventurous and needed the guiding hand of my father and grandfather. The odd smacking (not child abuse), did me a world of good. Today’s “time out generation” speaks for itself.

    With the current state of affairs I see no point in having children.

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

    #347316
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    Psl47
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    As a man in North American I have no ability to guide and correct my children; I have no paternal rights. At one point a man’s legacy was reflected in the grooming of his children – now his children are raised by the “community”. F~~~ that.

    Thats also very good point

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    #347320
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    Beer
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    Kids didn’t seem like too bad of an idea to me until I realized how bad of an idea being legally bound to a woman in our society is.

    #347329
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    UltimaThule
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    When people are asked for a purpose of having children they often give a list of things like continuation of the family name, continuation of their genetic lineage or something like that, none of which makes any sense at all. The only purpose of having children that makes any rational sense at all is fulfilling the desire to be a parent.

    First of all, there is no such thing as anybody representing a single genetic line. We all have two biological parents, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, sixteen great-great-grandparents, and so on. All we can possibly achieve a few dozen generations down the line by having children is to make a tiny difference in the allele frequencies of the gene pool we are a part of. There will be nobody expressing any complex traits as a result of them being our direct descendants.

    Secondly, unless you have a really uncommon family name, your reproductive choices will have virtually no impact on whether that family name will continue to be used in the future.

    #347354
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    Knights Templar Rising
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    I had absolutely no desire to breed. My ex used shaming language for 5 years until she wore me down, now I pay support for 3 kids. Women simply can’t resist the urge, it is biological imperative. Don’t get me wrong as I love my kids, but for men there is no real reason to have kids unless you truly desire to…and not because society has brainwashed you into it.

    Sovereignty above all else.

    #347695
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    El Sid
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    If I could have my life again, I wouldn’t have gone near the unsuitable women I had kids with. Nature played its cruel trick, hoodwinked me into thinking lust could grow into reciprocated love. Little did I know!
    But my lovely, bright kids are a wonderful consolation prize. At 55 years old, I’m content to go my own way now. Glad I had that thrust upon me AFTER having kids.

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