Prostitution vs Abortion – "My Body My Choice"

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Something interesting I was reading sparked this –

It’s quite ironic that the very same feminists who are pro-abortion are also anti-prostitution.

The pro-abortion feminist, gives as her justification –

“my body my choice“.

But, when it comes to prostitution this same rationale does NOT apply.

Feminists won’t allow other women to have self-agency over their bodies when it comes to prostitution, but demand it when it comes to abortion.

Interesting.

As an aside – I’m anti-abortion. The notion of “my body my choice” is a straw-man argument. No one is arguing about HER body, but the body of the baby inside of her. But, the hypocrisy of the rationale shows the hamster in over-drive.

Resident cynic.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

The hamster can do amazing things. It can contort logic beyond the limits of physics. This is a great example.

Feminism doesn’t actually have a coherent message. I read about these idiots trying to define “feminism” on a daily basis. The bitches are fighting about it routinely. They don’t actually know what they want, but they know that blaming men is the answer.

The cure is worse than the disease ladies. Enjoy it, you’ve earned it.

The answer, is no.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

At the end of the day it’s all about control.

Control over the man’s resources.

If you impregnate her, SHE wants control over that resource (baby, funding, etc).

If you want pussy, WOMEN get control over that. They don’t want it directly monetized. That’s too transactional, direct, and cut ‘n dry.

Long term control over a man and his resources.

Resident cynic.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

This sorta reminds me of those F1 Grid Girls who were removed. It is ironic how there is a clash between these grid girls and the feminists. After all, isn’t feminism about empowering women?…of course not. Modern day feminism is just about a bunch of jealous girls.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

Feminism doesn’t actually have a coherent message.

More and more people are waking up to this. I was reading a reddit thread (non MGTOW) which was asking why so many people are against Feminism. The top voted answers, 5k+ votes, gave rational arguments against feminism. Again, this was a non MGTOW/RP related sub.

They have simply pushed too far.

Resident cynic.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Mehhh
Not my circus, not my monkeys.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

They have simply pushed too far.

…and feminism is well and truly imploding. It will be its own downfall.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Carnage wrote:

Mehhh
Not my circus, not my monkeys.

We all know.

You’re a self proclaimed ‘nihilist’ who cares so little he takes time to tell us all how little he cares.

Smart as a boy wearing shiny, black shoes.

= /

Resident cynic.

[Anonymous 12]

One of the aims of the Left is to lower population levels especially white population levels. So feminism being a tool of the left will be pro abortion.

They are anti prostitution because they see whores as victims and they also hate men. So deny men a means of sex so you can get them coupled up or married and then f~~~ them over.

Interestingly enough, many whores especially in Australia are also staunch feminists but they are too stupid to see their own ideology fighting against them.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

This sorta reminds me of those F1 Grid Girls who were removed. It is ironic how there is a clash between these grid girls and the feminists. After all, isn’t feminism about empowering women?…of course not. Modern day feminism is just about a bunch of jealous girls.

It was never about equal opportunity, nor equal rights. It has and always will be about equality of outcome, sans equal effort.

In this particular instance, it is about control. Control over choices. The choices of both men AND women. By removing those women that are deemed attractive, it leaves only the scraps, the ‘social leftovers’ (feminist) to fight over. And if that ever became the only thing left to chose from, they (feminist) would have free reign to continue their campaign of demands and disdain for men.

Does it sound absurd? Sure. Then again, I’m not fully sure I want to understand that kind of logic (or the lack thereof).

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

Feminists want to make all decisions without responsibility or accountability.

If it doesn’t fit their agenda of “women are best” it is evil and misogynistic, if it does then it is empowering.

Anything that gives a bloke any decision or choice is by default wrong (e.g. prostitution).

Feminism has nothing to offer the individual woman if she does not comply with the sacred doctrine, or is too old, ugly, fat, or has a modicum of intelligence. It is not about the woman’s choice is it about control of resources (which are mostly generated by blokes).

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

Ultimately what feminists want is to be able to do anything they want with no consequences, or (better yet) to shift the cost or consequences of their actions onto men. Finally, they want to make men as unhappy as possible.

That’s why they like abortions and want taxpayers (aka us) to continue to fund planned parenthood. It works for them because they can be sluts and not have to deal with the consequences of an unplanned pregnancy with a loser…they wanna save that for some guy with money.

Prostitution on the other hand does nothing to help them, since feminists are unattractive and they wouldn’t make good prostitutes. It also hurts them because it gives guys who want to get laid the option of paying for it, rather than jumping through some c~~~’s hoops. It also does nothing to hurt men but may potentially make them happier.

That’s why c~~~s like abortion but not prostitution.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

xanthine wrote:

It also hurts them because it gives guys who want to get laid the option of paying for it, rather than jumping through some c~~~’s hoops. It also does nothing to hurt men but may potentially make them happier.

I agree 100 percent.

I can see no other reason for the inconsistent application of the principle.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

At the end of the day it’s all about control.

You answered your own question. The similarity is in control. Notice though that feminism generally doesn’t want to punish a woman for selling her body. They only want to punish a man for buying it, and/or a man for facilitating the transaction. Feminism generally sticks to the story that all prostitutes were forced to do so by a man in one way or another….when it suits their purposes.

I do think feminism gets confused about what to do with prostitution. On a high level, they understand that it hurts the general female’s ability to extract resources from the general man. In that regard it’s bad. On an individual level, when they run into a prostitute, stripper, porn star who clearly has made their own choices in career, are enjoying their life, and have extracted much resources from men…how are they to complain? Isn’t that what they all want in one way or another? I would bet that feminist would be fine with prostitution if it were regulated and done in such a way that it doesn’t effect other women’s ability to extract resources.

Say for example, you have a rich old married man who’s wife has no interest in him sexually. As long as he doesn’t embarrass her, why does she care? Then may take the ‘living in mom’s basement’ guy. If she doesn’t consider him to be worthy of marriage, or even dating material, do women really care that he funds women ‘a la carte’? Don’t think so.

Ok. Then do it.

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

The pro-abortion feminist, gives as her justification –

“my body my choice“.

While refusing to accept any responsibility for their choices.

If it’s her body her choice, why is it MY MONEY?

WHERE’S MY CHOICE?

Where’s the f~~~ing equality?

Whether you’re for or against abortion, the fact stands that while there may still be accidental pregnancies (though not nearly as many as women claim), since Roe v. Wade there is no such thing as an accidental birth. Every birth is by choice.

Why do I have to pay for their choices?

[Branched offParticipant 10980]

xanthine wrote:

Ultimately what feminists want is to be able to do anything they want with no consequences, or (better yet) to shift the cost or consequences of their actions onto men. Finally, they want to make men as unhappy as possible.

This is spot on. It makes me wonder if the focus of feminism has shifted from rights for women to control of men. Feminism is fashionable and popular. It is a sacred cow. You cannot stand up in the circles of power in the west and say “I am anti feminist”. That is taboo. So women who can get control of feminism can get a powerful tool to achieve their goals and I think their goal is simply to put men down and control them, so that they can act with impunity and get resources.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I suspect feminists oppose legalized prostitution for the same reason drug dealers oppose legalized drugs: deep down, they know most women would prostitute themselves if consequences were removed for them, and abundance leads to price collapse.

Pregnancy leads to babies which can be a good thing, but they want abortion legal for any pregnancy for which a baby would inconvenience them.

The combination of these two positions maximizes the value of owning a pussy, while minimizing the liability of it.

If only women owned all the land and buildings, Feminists would want to make camping illegal, while simultaneously legalizing arson… just in case.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[SESQUI ano estParticipant 2535]

Prostitution is legal and rampant throughout the world. It’s called marriage.
Stop marriage now.

sidecar wrote:

If it’s her body her choice, why is it MY MONEY?

sidecar wrote:

Why do I have to pay for their choices?

Exactly!

Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.

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