Pros and cons of the debate

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Lets start out with the pros of each candidate and the debate

Trump was usual self in this debate

He nailed Clinton

He had a few good points.

Hillary

She made it a whole 90 minutes without falling down or coughing.

She did have two good points (being against stop and frisk and for the Iran deal).

Debate

It was on live television and was being streamed over the internet.

Now with the cons

Trump

Spoke at the most random ass times to speak.

Did not provide evidence for all of his claims (especially that regarding the taxes) since he only said nope.

Failed to portray himself properly and appeared not to have fully prepared for the debate.

Hillary

Did not fall down or start a coughing fit during the debate on live television.

Had s~~~ positions such as the no fly list for gun ownership.

The debate itself

S~~~ moderation to the point where they could not get on serious topics

Not held in MSG in downtown Manhattan but a s~~~ college nobody has ever heard of.

Too f~~~ing short.

You may add your own pros and cons but they should be logically thought out i know Trump is better then Clinton as a candidate and if i could vote i would vote for him but still we must regonize what s~~~ went down tonight.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Anonymous 3]

I’m a big Trump guy, my merch is on order, but I thought he lost.

I didn’t watch it, I listened on Sirius. He spoke when he shouldn’t have, rambled upon occasion, but he was up against two people here. Holt was on Clinton’s side: surely the questions about the Clinton Fdtn., Benghazi and the like were only 5 minutes away… sure…. right? There were times he didn’t answer the question (cyber security) or went off tangentially. Clinton stuck to her memorized lines straight off the Communist Manifesto about targeting the wealthy and class warfare and, for once, didn’t sound screechy or pedantic as she is want to do.

I’m reading other stuff that is giving him the win and maybe I need to watch it now to see it but, upon first listening, I thought he lost.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

I don’t trust the mainstream media to tell me how it went but from going across more right leaning blogs it does seem Trump lost which is a surprise to me.

Maybe Trump thought he was just going to walk it and didn’t expect to come up against the political robot that Hilary is so he was caught offguard.

I expect a much better showing next time around

[chirParticipant]

Did Hillary have her earpiece in?

The “Key issue” debated was Trump. The “moderator” and Hillary did nothing but tag team him on idiotic Dem talking point crap.

Trump wasn’t a knockout but he stood toe to toe not giving an inch with someone who is a 30 year veteran of politics ans supposedly the most qualified person ever.

Good press, bad press the telling thing on how TERRIFIED the feminist, progressive SJW camp is they can’t stop talking about Trump.

Next time he needs to expand upon his best first 20 min and expand that to the rest of the time.

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[Jim01Participant 6678]

chir wrote:

Did Hillary have her earpiece in?

The “Key issue” debated was Trump. The “moderator” and Hillary did nothing but tag team him on idiotic Dem talking point crap.

Trump wasn’t a knockout but he stood toe to toe not giving an inch with someone who is a 30 year veteran of politics ans supposedly the most qualified person ever.

Good press, bad press the telling thing on how TERRIFIED the feminist, progressive SJW camp is they can’t stop talking about Trump.

Next time he needs to expand upon his best first 20 min and expand that to the rest of the time.

I think yesterday was just a learning curve for him. He now knows what to expect and will massively improve

[sonofthedestroyerParticipant 318]

Electoral politics is a fraud. Indians got so excited about Narendra Modo when he was elected. As they expected him to make some big changes. And viola! He didn’t. Same old story across the world repeating itself. Don’t get too excited about Trump and Hillary. I might be wrong but I would assume they will just maintain the status quo when one of them take the reigns

[sonofthedestroyerParticipant 318]

Meant to say Narendra Modi. Damn spell correct on my phone

[Anonymous 42]

Power is never surrendered back to the people, you must peel it from their cold dead fingers!

[EekParticipant 1162]

My breakdown, after watching the whole thing:
Trump shouldn’t have rambled in quite as much, I don’t know why he had to say Sean Hannity’s name 10 times in 5 minutes, but he kept repeating himself way too much about the start of the Iraq war.

I can’t stand Hilary’s voice. If she had talked much more my brain might have broken.

My position is the same at the end. Don’t vote for any Republicans or Democrats. Don’t vote for any incumbents. It is time to tip the scales away from the duopoly that provide these 2 terrible choices.

[RoyDalParticipant]

A majority of polls say Trump is the winner. http://www.infowars.com/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

The commentators’ reactions are totally predictable — whoever they were for before the debate is who they declared the winner after.

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[TuneoutParticipant]

sonofthedestroyer wrote:

Electoral politics is a fraud. Indians got so excited about Narendra Modo when he was elected. As they expected him to make some big changes. And viola! He didn’t. Same old story across the world repeating itself. Don’t get too excited about Trump and Hillary. I might be wrong but I would assume they will just maintain the status quo when one of them take the reigns

Exactly,just look at how much Obama has done for the common Black person and race relations in general.

If anything it’s WORSE than 8 years ago.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m a big Trump guy, my merch is on order, but I thought he lost.

I didn’t watch it, I listened on Sirius. He spoke when he shouldn’t have, rambled upon occasion, but he was up against two people here. Holt was on Clinton’s side: surely the questions about the Clinton Fdtn., Benghazi and the like were only 5 minutes away… sure…. right? There were times he didn’t answer the question (cyber security) or went off tangentially. Clinton stuck to her memorized lines straight off the Communist Manifesto about targeting the wealthy and class warfare and, for once, didn’t sound screechy or pedantic as she is want to do.

I’m reading other stuff that is giving him the win and maybe I need to watch it now to see it but, upon first listening, I thought he lost.

5: I thought she won as well. The problem with Trump is his inexperience in debating one on one. His best point was when he said he would release his tax returns when she releases the 33,000 emails. When she started talking about his business was when he should have counterpunched with her foundation. When the moderator doesn’t bring it up an issue then it falls on you to bring it up.

RoyDal wrote:

The commentators’ reactions are totally predictable — whoever they were for before the debate is who they declared the winner after.

Yeah, it drives me crazy to try and watch any analysis after a debate because it’s impossible to get a talking head to give any real analysis. I’m starting to think the world would end if one of them conceded a point, ever.

Order the good wine

[Jim01Participant 6678]

RoyDal wrote:

A majority of polls say Trump is the winner. http://www.infowars.com/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/

The commentators’ reactions are totally predictable — whoever they were for before the debate is who they declared the winner after.

I looked at BBC and Sky News – was sceptical but went with their results as I had seen it dotted around the web. I should know better

although as I have said above….Trump now knows what to expect so will be much better in the second debate anyway

[Anonymous 6]

Remember, Romney won the first debate in 2012 and still lost. Trump can rebound from this. Hell Regan lost the second debate in 1984

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

I turned it off when I saw the moderator giving Hilldog the softball questions. I think the fact that the media is so against Trump speaks volumes as to who they want in the white house. And afterwards all the talking heads had to say was:
“Hillary looked like a presidential candidate.”
“Trump didn’t look like a presidential candidate because of his reactions and faces he made.”

Basically, Hillary’s track record is so awful that the only positive they get from her is her image.

And to the OP, stop and frisk and Iran? The stop and frisk laws likely prevented many criminal acts, and millions to Iran as a ransom payment. Yea…

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Trump or Hilary – gonorrhea or syphilis
I would like to have heard what some of the other candidates had to say. Arguably the most f~~~ed up election in the history of America.

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[Nathan R. JessepParticipant 1102]

Samsquanch wrote:

And to the OP, stop and frisk and Iran? The stop and frisk laws likely prevented many criminal acts

Stop and frisk is unconstitutional and stealing oil from countries you invade is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

[Nathan R. JessepParticipant 1102]

Tuneout wrote:

sonofthedestroyer wrote:

Electoral politics is a fraud. Indians got so excited about Narendra Modo when he was elected. As they expected him to make some big changes. And viola! He didn’t. Same old story across the world repeating itself. Don’t get too excited about Trump and Hillary. I might be wrong but I would assume they will just maintain the status quo when one of them take the reigns

Exactly,just look at how much Obama has done for the common Black person and race relations in general.

If anything it’s WORSE than 8 years ago.

The poverty rate for African Americans is the lowest in history.

[joetechParticipant]

Cynicism in an election year? What’s the world coming to? I thought Trump held his own throughout. Hillary just stuck to her old ways and told her lies like she always does. Maybe she was hoping we weren’t watching the debate.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Nathan R. Jessep wrote:

Mudwhistle wrote:

And to the OP, stop and frisk and Iran? The stop and frisk laws likely prevented many criminal acts

Stop and frisk is unconstitutional and stealing oil from countries you invade is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

Stop and frisk was found unconstitutional by a lower court and was never appealed. It isn’t “unconstitutional” until the Supreme Court says so. But when you have a Justice Department run by a Democrat and the Republican law loses in the lower court there is no reason to appeal. My guess is that President Trump would have his Justice Department appeal that decision. From her response, President Clinton would not appeal the lower court decision.

Order the good wine

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