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Trump is a crook. You can’t run for president unless you are one. But yes Hillary is far worse than him because she has a proven political criminal history. Whereas Trump is a lying businessman who will probably show the finger to his supporters if he comes to power. When it comes to electoral politics he majority refuse to learn the fundamental truth that it is a con game. I have witnessed this so many times in so many countries. People claim so and so is going to make a difference.And then whine about him/her later.
Trump could’ve just enjoyed his wealth and retired.
He had no reason to run for president.
He lost money and his reputation in the process.There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that he will betray his followers.
That’s just outright made up.The OP is regurgitating msm propaganda and you are helping him.
He is trolling this forum with lefty looney bogus “news” from bloomberg and the like.If this website is for right wingers just say so. And i will happily stop paying monthly to participate here and leave. If you think Trump is an honest man i dont know what planet you live on. He is on record mocking republican voters as gullible fox news watching fools before he decided to run for president. The hypocrite made a huge fuss about Obama and his birth certificate years ago. Why did he not say anything about John McCain who was born in central America (i forget the nation)? I have asked Americans this and they insist he was born inside a US military base so its ok. But apparently Obamas certificate must be fake. It does not take rocket science to spot covert racists and their double standards. Trump also got exposed for manufacturing his products abroad. Not to mention his decades of tax fraud, while accusing ohers of doing it. That makes him a hypocrite and a liar at the same time.
I have lived in a military dictatorship and i can confidently say that Trump shows all the signs of being a dictator in the making. Anybody who thinks he is going to transform America into some thriving capitalistic paradise are deluded.
I also laugh at republicans who think Wikileaks is their friend. Just you wait and see if Trump wins. They will start exposing s~~~ about him too. And suddenly all the republicans will call for assassinations of the people running wikileaks the same way Hillary did.
It was not long ago that Trump was attempting to evict home owners in Scotland because he wanted to build a golf course there.Trump is a crook. You can’t run for president unless you are one. But yes Hillary is far worse than him because she has a proven political criminal history. Whereas Trump is a lying businessman who will probably show the finger to his supporters if he comes to power. When it comes to electoral politics he majority refuse to learn the fundamental truth that it is a con game. I have witnessed this so many times in so many countries. People claim so and so is going to make a difference.And then whine about him/her later.
Trump could’ve just enjoyed his wealth and retired.
He had no reason to run for president.
He lost money and his reputation in the process.There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that he will betray his followers.
That’s just outright made up.The OP is regurgitating msm propaganda and you are helping him.
He is trolling this forum with lefty looney bogus “news” from bloomberg and the like.If this website is for right wingers just say so. And i will happily stop paying monthly to participate here and leave. If you think Trump is an honest man i dont know what planet you live on. He is on record mocking republican voters as gullible fox news watching fools before he decided to run for president. The hypocrite made a huge fuss about Obama and his birth certificate years ago. Why did he not say anything about John McCain who was born in central America (i forget the nation)? I have asked Americans this and they insist he was born inside a US military base so its ok. But apparently Obamas certificate must be fake. It does not take rocket science to spot covert racists and their double standards. Trump also got exposed for manufacturing his products abroad. That makes him a hypocrite and a liar at the same time.
I have lived in a military dictatorship and i can confidently say that Trump shows all the signs of being a dictator in the making. Anybody who thinks he is going to transform America into some thriving capitalistic paradise are deluded.
I also laugh at republicans who think Wikileaks is their friend. Just you wait and see if Trump wins. They will start exposing s~~~ about him too. And suddenly all the republicans will call for assassinations of the people running wikileaks the same way Hillary did.
It was not long ago that Trump was attempting to evict home owners in Scotland because he wanted to build a golf course there.None of what you wrote adressed anything in my post.
You are just repeating msm propaganda.
I don’t give a f~~~ what Trump has said.
I am only interested in actions.Monk
Why is it so hard to believe that people will vote for Trump before they vote for Hillary. He’s leading in early voting in Florida, he has Ohio all locked up. He has Iowa all locked up, and working on Nevada and Utah. The enthusiasm is on his side while the media is on her side, very reminiscent of 1979 with Reagan and Carter. Through Wikileaks we’ve found out that the Clinton camp put out Craigslist ads to disrupt Trump rallies, and fill in empty seats at the convention. Hillary can’t fill a high school auditorium, while Trump is filling arenas three times per day. There are millions of people who voted for Obama, that are now voting for Trump. More people voted for Trump than any other Republican candidate ever in the history of the party. During the primary, the Republicans had a higher turnout, and the Democrats had a lower turnout. We’ve found out that the DNC colluded with the Clinton camp in stealing the election from Bernie. All his supporters are p~~~ed off and they won’t be voting Hillary. You ever wonder why nobody has done a recent poll asking who Bernie supporters are going to vote for?? Trump is leading with independents in every poll and first time voters. He also has 19% of the black vote, (he only needed 15%, so he’s over performing).
Now through WikiLeaks, we’ve discovered that the major news organizations have been skewing polls to discourage turnout. They over saturate the polls with Dem voters to make it seem like Hillary is winning. When in reality, he’s not down like they would like to think he is.
Your first point, Kasich was a victim of Trump rhetoric. Kasich was more bland than grits without butter. If he was such a great candidate as you claim, than why did he only win one state, and why was he asked repeatedly “Why are you still in the race”. Good person i’m sure, but terrible campaigner.
Your second point, the Republicans in Congress are the very reason we’re in this mess. When Trump started his campaign, he cited anger against Dems, AND Republicans. He’s repeatedly gone against his own party, he’s simply said, I work for the will of the people, not the party. So would he stop TPP, you best your uninformed ass he will.
Your third point, how about cutting regulations that kill small businesses. Those small businesses can’t afford to pay the high corporate taxes that larger corporations pay, therefore those businesses soon fall. That would be a great start don’t you think. How about ending government regulated healthcare. Obamacare has crushed hospitals and specialist offices. I know of a doctor office back home, where the insurance companies can’t afford to pay the doctors office for services rendered. How long do you think that office can hold up without getting the money that is owed to them from insurance companies.
Hillary having 538 electoral votes is completely laughable. You can’t win the election without Ohio or Florida, two states he is currently leading in, and will win. Hillary pulled out of both those states, and has only resorted to running commercials and no ground game. Let me say again, Trump is leading in several states that Obama won. Bernie’s folks are p~~~ed off and they ain’t going down without a fight. Military is for Trump, Police/Fire Rescue are for Trump. When Hillary went to Virginia and said she intends to put coal miners out of business, who do you think those miners are voting for. What about the truck drivers, the plumbers, the electricians, the contractors, all the blue collar workers who make this country what it is, are voting for Trump.
Is this the best effort that you could come up with.
Venom you have me very optimistic because the way it was looking (or temperature in the room) like Trump cant recover from this SJW/feminist mushroom bomb. Are your stats accurate as far as the black vote being 19%? If so im very shocked to see some have waken the hell up. Also do you think he has this victory like he says he does,you seem very well informed in politics and would like to hear your answer to this.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
If this website is for right wingers just say so. And i will happily stop paying monthly to participate here and leave.
My God. This website is for men each going his own way. I read time & again on how this site, because of the men that run it, and because of the men that post here, how it is/has helped them & others have even said it has saved their f~~~ing lives.
I can’t believe that political views/stands/etc. are supposed to trump that (no pun intended).
I do the best I can at being neutral about s~~~. Some think I am passive/aggressive, but it’s more like neutral/assertive, at least that is my intent.
But, when I hear that politics, or anything for that matter, is somehow supposed to be more important than this site as a Whole, and it being used as some kind of bargaining chip on whether someone leaves or stays, all I can do is SMH.
I don’t care if it’s left wing or right wing…to me it’s still the same f~~~ing bird, 2 sides of the same damn coin. I am not much into politics, because I am more concerned about the f~~~ing puppet masters…
The World Central Bank, etc.
If this website is for right wingers just say so. And i will happily stop paying monthly to participate here and leave.
My God. This website is for men each going his own way. I read time & again on how this site, because of the men that run it, and because of the men that post here, how it is/has helped them & others have even said it has saved their f~~~ing lives.
I can’t believe that political views/stands/etc. are supposed to trump that (no pun intended).
I do the best I can at being neutral about s~~~. Some think I am passive/aggressive, but it’s more like neutral/assertive, at least that is my intent.
But, when I hear that politics, or anything for that matter, is somehow supposed to be more important than this site as a Whole, and it being used as some kind of bargaining chip on whether someone leaves or stays, all I can do is SMH.
I don’t care if it’s left wing or right wing…to me it’s still the same f~~~ing bird, 2 sides of the same damn coin. I am not much into politics, because I am more concerned about the f~~~ing puppet masters…
The World Central Bank, etc.
Feminism is a leftwing philosophy …
and the democratic candidate for president is a feminist, man hating c~~~….
Monk
Feminism is a leftwing philosophy …
and the democratic candidate for president is a feminist, man hating c~~~….
Thank you. Wont even try to pretend like I am in my element here, because I know I am not.
Let me tell you something about economics. The number 1 expense of businesses is salary. When you raise taxes and corporate regulations, the business can’t afford to hire more people because so much of their profit is being used up in taxes and regulations. Which is why so many companies decide to take their businesses abroad, leaving American workers
Lets add to that equation the greed of unions that basically bargained themselves out of work by ensuring ridiculous pay packages for their members even in tough economic times.
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
Oh do I hope Keymaster is right on this one, but I think the s~~~ is so rigged from top to bottom that there is no way she won’t win. She was chosen long ago by the globalist banking war machine that will not be stopped, everyone is in her pockets, even foreign countries…This country went openly rogue with Obama, and I don’t see it coming back. The Empire will crumble in the not to distant future.
Why is it so hard to believe more people will vote for Hillary than for Trump?
Because everybody I talk to in my die hard blue state would rather see her in prison. These people wanted Sanders. Rigged. All media in her pocket, that is Fascism my friend. The entire machine is behind her, and everyone has all the proof they need in so many ways that she, and those behind her, are the ones doing the conning, not Trump. These people will not go out and vote for her after what happened in the DNC. Up until she “won” the DNC primaries there were nothing but rabid Sanders supporters everywhere, women, men, children… Now guess what the last political booth at the weekly farmers market out here is? Libertarian Gary Johnson. Know what all the hippies tell me when I walk around with my Johnson shirt on? Oh, nice, someone we don’t all hate… If she wins it is only because it has been rigged on MULTIPLE levels. Fact. I have zero faith in anything being on the level anymore after what happened to Paul in 2011 GOP primaries and now Sanders in 2016 primaries. Both parties are rigged to keep anti-establishment types out. Somehow Trump muscled his way in though, and that is a big f~~~ing deal.
That’s what they’re telling you, but polls show that 85% of them are going to hold their noses and vote for Hillary.
I’m not voting for either – in California my vote doesn’t matter so I’m voting for Gary Johnson. I voted for Bernie in the primary although I don’t really agree with his ideas either. At least he was trustworthy.
I voted for Bernie in the primary although I don’t really agree with his ideas either. At least he was trustworthy.
Nathan, Bernie is a communist/socialist. Sure he would be trustworthy just like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc. Do you realize that socialism cost the lives of more than 100 million people in the last century? And you vote for this guy? Socialism is the philosophy of envy, hate and strife. You do know that I assume. It is also the source from which feminism springs—again I must assume you are aware of this. So….I don’t get it!?!!??!
Feminism is a leftwing philosophy …
and the democratic candidate for president is a feminist, man hating c~~~….
Thank you. Wont even try to pretend like I am in my element here, because I know I am not.
It’s not rocket science.
This election is different from the ones before.Choices for US president …
A: a successfull macho businessman
B: an old bitter feministIf someone doesn’t chose A then what the f~~~ are they doing on this forum?
MGTOW is not politicaly neutral.
To go your own way you need freedom.
The political left and the establishment want socialism aka the nanny state which is the opposite of freedom.
The political left is also the breeding place for social justice warriors and feminazis.
So no, mgtow is by no means neutral.
Monk
Reflecting on the totality of Nathan’s commentary I get the feel that he doesn’t especially like living in the “Peoples Republic of California”, so I have to ask—why would you want to inflict California’s one party authoritarian form of government on the entire country?
And I think Meister is right on. MGTOW is all about personal freedom and individual liberty—these are principals at odds with the “collective good” mentality of the left where individual freedoms are irrelevant compared to the “common good”.
MGTOW age,
As you can see Donald Trump is very popular on this website. The man is a piece of s~~~ just like Hillary. But it seems many here only want to be red pill when it comes to women. But blue pill when it comes to politics.It’s not rocket science.
This election is different from the ones before.Choices for US president …
A: a successfull macho businessman
Yes, I am all for Trump, because I loathe & despise Hitlary S~~~on
MGTOW is not politicaly neutral.
To go your own way you need freedom.
Agree on us needing our freedom to be able to go our own way.
It was never my intent to suggest or say that this site is politically neutral, only that my reason for me being here goes beyond just the US political scope on why I am. I am here because I agree with the over all philosophy in regards to me going my way, away from all the bulls~~~ in society that has been shoved down my throat.
The political left and the establishment want socialism aka the nanny state which is the opposite of freedom.
The political left is also the breeding place for social justice warriors and feminazis.
So no, mgtow is by no means neutral.
Thank you again for breaking it down in simple laymen terms for me. It has brought me to a milestone then, for I have never really took a hard look into politics in regards to which party, conservative/liberal & all the rest of it.
I have always been overwhelmed by it all, and the few times I tried to talk with people about it in my life just made me more confused about it.
I retract my statement in regards to be politically neutral, and again thank you for that.
I despise the feminazi bulls~~~ with a burning passion.
First, Kasich was a victim of Trump’s nonsense rhetoric that is now costing him the general election.
What! When you lose the war, you blame the enemies for being too strong?
It is never your incompetence, someone else should be responsible for the blame.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Anonymous6Why is it so hard to believe that people will vote for Trump before they vote for Hillary. He’s leading in early voting in Florida, he has Ohio all locked up. He has Iowa all locked up, and working on Nevada and Utah. The enthusiasm is on his side while the media is on her side, very reminiscent of 1979 with Reagan and Carter. Through Wikileaks we’ve found out that the Clinton camp put out Craigslist ads to disrupt Trump rallies, and fill in empty seats at the convention. Hillary can’t fill a high school auditorium, while Trump is filling arenas three times per day. There are millions of people who voted for Obama, that are now voting for Trump. More people voted for Trump than any other Republican candidate ever in the history of the party. During the primary, the Republicans had a higher turnout, and the Democrats had a lower turnout. We’ve found out that the DNC colluded with the Clinton camp in stealing the election from Bernie. All his supporters are p~~~ed off and they won’t be voting Hillary. You ever wonder why nobody has done a recent poll asking who Bernie supporters are going to vote for?? Trump is leading with independents in every poll and first time voters. He also has 19% of the black vote, (he only needed 15%, so he’s over performing).
Now through WikiLeaks, we’ve discovered that the major news organizations have been skewing polls to discourage turnout. They over saturate the polls with Dem voters to make it seem like Hillary is winning. When in reality, he’s not down like they would like to think he is.
Your first point, Kasich was a victim of Trump rhetoric. Kasich was more bland than grits without butter. If he was such a great candidate as you claim, than why did he only win one state, and why was he asked repeatedly “Why are you still in the race”. Good person i’m sure, but terrible campaigner.
Your second point, the Republicans in Congress are the very reason we’re in this mess. When Trump started his campaign, he cited anger against Dems, AND Republicans. He’s repeatedly gone against his own party, he’s simply said, I work for the will of the people, not the party. So would he stop TPP, you best your uninformed ass he will.
Your third point, how about cutting regulations that kill small businesses. Those small businesses can’t afford to pay the high corporate taxes that larger corporations pay, therefore those businesses soon fall. That would be a great start don’t you think. How about ending government regulated healthcare. Obamacare has crushed hospitals and specialist offices. I know of a doctor office back home, where the insurance companies can’t afford to pay the doctors office for services rendered. How long do you think that office can hold up without getting the money that is owed to them from insurance companies.
Hillary having 538 electoral votes is completely laughable. You can’t win the election without Ohio or Florida, two states he is currently leading in, and will win. Hillary pulled out of both those states, and has only resorted to running commercials and no ground game. Let me say again, Trump is leading in several states that Obama won. Bernie’s folks are p~~~ed off and they ain’t going down without a fight. Military is for Trump, Police/Fire Rescue are for Trump. When Hillary went to Virginia and said she intends to put coal miners out of business, who do you think those miners are voting for. What about the truck drivers, the plumbers, the electricians, the contractors, all the blue collar workers who make this country what it is, are voting for Trump.
Is this the best effort that you could come up with.
Venom you have me very optimistic because the way it was looking (or temperature in the room) like Trump cant recover from this SJW/feminist mushroom bomb. Are your stats accurate as far as the black vote being 19%? If so i’m very shocked to see some have waken the hell up. Also do you think he has this victory like he says he does,you seem very well informed in politics and would like to hear your answer to this.
There was a “Blacks for Trump hashtag that trended on twitter for 3 days. I have been studying politics and history for years. It’s what my degree is in. That’s how I’m able to tell Nathan up there that he’s wrong, and make sure he knows it. Hillary needs everybody that voted for Obama, to vote for her. That ain’t happening. Hell, even in 2012, Obama won re-election with “Less” votes than 2008. I believe that there will be some sad and shocked faces on Nov 8th. People won’t understand how he did it, but it will be the people who make the difference.
I would look at some of these polls on the news and get discouraged, until I remembered to look at the details. In the details you’ll see that the pollsters would use more Democrats in the poll than they would Republicans. So when you do that, of course it would look like Hillary is on top. They heavily weigh those polls with Democrats and Trump still is within 3 to 4 points down. Imagine what the actual numbers are. In all three debates, the media said He lost and she won. But the people all said that He won all three debates. But the polls really do a disservice to Hillary. If all the polls say that she is leading, and that she has this all wrapped up. Then people won’t turnout to vote for her because they believe she’s already won. Meanwhile, on the GOP side, every Trump voter will be out in force that day. Hell, polls even show that women don’t even care about Trump lewd comments, their more worried about the economy. Think about the tax payer dollars that get wasted everyday. Hillary lost 6 billion dollars her last year in the state dept. Obama paid a 400 million dollar ransom to Iran this summer. We pay billions to the United Nations for climate change reasons. I’d like that money to go to better roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, and other necessities….WOULDN’T YOU????
And as far as MGTOW being right-wing? It kinda goes hand in hand. Conservatives believe in a limited government with more freedoms to the individual. Less government would solve the majority of the guys problems on this site because they wouldn’t get divorced rape by a hungry government. MGTOW wants less government so much to the point, where we chose to go our own way to get that freedom. Go read one of my earlier posts about this same subject. Trump getting elected will be the biggest F~~~ YOU in human history.
And here is the link to that 19% black vote….
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/poll-trump-gains-african-american/2016/09/18/id/748860/Trump getting elected will be the biggest F~~~ YOU in human history.
I agree,im buying a bottle of champagne to put in the fridge hoping it’s a victory drink instead of guzzling it for defeat. Thanks for input and keep us updated on what you see because its evident we cant trust the media polls anymore.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
What weird spam garbage.
What the f~~~ is wrong with you?
Spam from Bloomberg?
What the f~~~ are you talking about?
Unless it supports Trump, and doesn’t come from InfoWars or Breitbart, it is considered spam. At this point in time, the Filter Bubble is in full effect and people will see damn well whatever they are going to see.
Heck, Trump made money from Trump University, which failed completely. It shouldn’t be surprising if he makes money from his campaign. If he ever built the wall, he would work out advertising rights for his company, and it would make money of it.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Anonymous24Feminism in general, and certainly third wave Feminism is, in fact, a Leftist tool of the State. Created by the Left, and pushed by the Left. Therefore if you are on the Left as a man, you may as well just cut your b~~~~ off, put on a skirt, and join them wholeheartedly.
Edit, ha, I liked that so much I have to use it now as my quote…
Reflecting on the totality of Nathan’s commentary I get the feel that he doesn’t especially like living in the “Peoples Republic of California”, so I have to ask—why would you want to inflict California’s one party authoritarian form of government on the entire country?
And I think Meister is right on. MGTOW is all about personal freedom and individual liberty—these are principals at odds with the “collective good” mentality of the left where individual freedoms are irrelevant compared to the “common good”.
Let me explain my views and why I think the way I do.
I believe men should be able to do anything they want that doesn’t hurt anyone else – you want to gamble, do drugs, buy prostitutes, etc., then go right ahead. I absolutely hate the government telling people how to live their lives.
However, I have traveled extensively including to 3rd world countries where there are basically no taxes. These are not places most people would want to live because even though you might drive a Land Cruiser once you get out of it you have to be careful not to step in someone else’s s~~~ and have to deal with people begging constantly. So I do support a progressive taxation system. I would like the money to go less to the military industrial complex and more to things that can help earn more money (a healthier and more educated citizenry will pay more in taxes). I do have issues with how the welfare system that puts incentives in the wrong places – women should not be rewarded with more money for having more out of wedlock kids.
The closest party to my views is Libertarian, but would tone down the spending cuts and adjust priorities about where money gets spent.
Nathan you have the IQ of a bag of stale taco shells. I work in the medical device industry and the regulations are stifeling. The regulations kill innovation, they keep great new products from ever getting into customers hands.
I was involved with one product that would have helped physicians find heart disease much earlier than they do today and the regulatory group killed it. It really was a travesty.
One rule enforced by our regulatory group stated that you cannot deliver software to a customer unless it’s been released and you can’t release software unless it’s been evaluated by a customer.
So Nathan when you ask “what regulations” it’s pretty clear you have no idea what your talking about. Just like all the rest of the useful idiots.
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