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Hey everyone, Sovereign here. I’ve been reading this amazing treasure trove of a forum for a few months now, but I figured it’s time I share my story.
I’ve been a MGTOW for many years I guess, but I’ve just recently started consuming massive amounts of content in the past year. A combination of MGTOW/PUA was the obvious choice for my early 20’s, but now at 28 I find myself at a fork in the road. I’ve spent much of 2015 soul-searching and this forum has definitely helped. It’s refreshing to see that the virtues of masculinity, male sovereignty and just general sanity and logic still exist somewhere!
I have come to the conclusion that the modern American female is like some sort of slutty/hypergamous mortgage that can never, ever be paid off.
I’ve been a natural with the skirts since a young age so getting laid has been easy my whole life. I’m also a fedex driver so I’m constantly bombarded with fresh young pussy pretty much all day every day. It’s THE ULTIMATE JOB FOR A PLAYER if any of you younger guys are still looking to f~~~ around. However it’s now gotten to the point that I’ve f~~~ed so many young girls that I just don’t care anymore. Sure the f~~~ing and the sucking is great… but I just can’t stand all the other bulls~~~ that goes along with it. I’ve really pushed my luck, time and time again, and I’m really thankful to have gotten this far without a pregnancy, disease or a rape charge!
Over the past few years I started doing something that really led to my AHA moment. Ya see, I realized that both relationships and PUA were expensive and not all that productive, so I started a cycle of self-improvement followed by play time. The way it worked was I would pick 2 or 3 goals for myself- usually business or health goals. I would pick a debt to pay off, or a bad habit to expel, or something along those lines to accomplish. Once I achieved said goals, the “work” time would end or slow down and I would “reward” myself by f~~~ing 1-3 females. A few months of “work” followed by a few months of “reward”. I even had a few micro relationships during this time but I always cut them off at or before the 6 month mark. I would never got anything meaningful accomplished during the “reward” time, and I would always feel myself becoming weaker and stagnating the longer the relations~~~ lasted.
I have this theory that females literally suck the male vitality right out of you, and although this feels good in the moment, it’s basically a trap and will weaken you over time.
By now you guys probably know where this is going… As time went on I realized everything was bass ackwards. The “work” time, while I was b~~~~ deep in projects actually felt extremely REWARDING. Who doesn’t love to get their hands dirty, accomplish something you’re proud of??! Meanwhile, the “reward” time began to seem more and more like a chore I didn’t want to do, like a family party or a funeral. Immediately after busting a nut I would begin to feel trapped, like I was working a job I hated. I would peer at the clock wondering when I’d be able to spread out again; to be back in my own mind, in my own world, working towards something worthwhile.
I’m at the point now where I just don’t see any benefit in continuing to pursue females, even if it’s just for sex. Youjizz works pretty well lol. I remember looking at a nofap reddit a few years ago and they were talking about how porn is so bad for you, because the sensory overload is way better than anything you’ll ever get in real life. Basically over time our brains wire up for porn, which makes sex with real females less interesting. I remember thinking to myself “If its so much better than than real sex, than where’s the f~~~in problem?? It sounded more like a solution to me… Man gets a better orgasm; keeps his time, energy and money.”
Anyways, I do get a bit lonely at times but that has been fading fast. I see a lot of obstacles coming down the pipeline for humanity and I rest a lot easier knowing my chances of survival are way higher without a female or kids dragging me down. Sure it would be nice to play catch in the yard with a son, but I’m realistic enough to know that there’s a lot more to kids than that. If any of you guys are still grappling with the kids thing, google: “regret having children” and then google: “regret not having children”. It turns out there is an overwhelming amount of people who regret having kids, and very few that regret NOT having them. I’m still grappling with this one myself, but it’s nice knowing that as long as I have money, I can start a family with or without a woman at any time. No wall for me hehehe.
This past year, since coming to this fork in the road, I’ve went through a fair amount of pain giving up (at least for now) the family dream. However, the more I look at the alternative, the more excited I get. Sure I’ll definitively go f~~~ something again at some point, but it just doesn’t drive me anymore. Lately I just keep delaying “reward” time and setting new goals instead. It’s so much nicer to just dream about my imaginary unicorn. I keep telling myself I’ll go f~~~ something after I do A, B, and C. It’s kinda like I put a piece of cheese at the end of a maze, except now right before I get to the cheese, I just drop myself into a bigger and more complex maze. I guess I don’t really want the “cheese” anymore, but strangely I find it useful to keep pretending in my head that there’s some kind of reward waiting for me at the end.
I’m realizing now that the reward is not at the end of the road, but within the journey itself.
It’s amazing to think of all the cool things I can go do now. I have no debt, a rental property, about 20k in liquid investments, perfect credit, and a <top secret classified> Internet project that I’m raging. I’m determined to build a mobile income so I can do a bit of traveling. I want to go see the emerging markets in Asia and possibly spread some of my seed(capital) around the world. I have a list of potential business/investment opportunities that I’m anticipating in the next decade. I see very few US-based assets that I could purchase that will be worth more in 10 years, and I don’t plan on sticking around to help pay for that enormous federal debt burden… I’m dreaming of finding a cheap tropical paradise in Asia and just renting ming ling for $20 whenever my pole needs a smokin… A man going his own way could easily work a few hours a day and still have money to save and invest…
Bottom line:
Not MY kids, not MY house = not MY problem.
The world belongs to us MGTOW.
Not my property... Not my problem
Welcome, @sovereign! You made it, and I’m glad you did. BTW, sanity is over rated, but it beats all to the dickens self-destructive blue pill behavior. I think of blue pill men like those flies that keep banging their heads on the window glass when they could just fly across the room and go out an open door. MGTOW have chosen the open door.
Consider buying a retreat in the woods. Have a hidden vault to keep your camping s~~~. F~~~ building a house…taxes and s~~~. Just a few acres.
I mailed off my property tax bill a few days ago. It is less than two months of my internet bill. Yep, I live in a retreat in the woods.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Great intro and you sound very sorted.
I wish many other guys could see through your eyes ….. but alas they are pussy blind.
As an aside …. I had a DHL delivery by a very hot chick yesterday …. alas she didn’t fk me ….. but then again I did get my package … which was a better feeling anyway ?
Again .. welcome aboard USS MGTOW
Enjoyed your intro welcome to MGTOW and the forums! You’re among friends here.
I have this theory that females literally suck the male vitality right out of you, and although this feels good in the moment, it’s basically a trap and will weaken you over time.
It’s not really “theory”. You can liken it to the “frog soup” analogy.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous42It’s refreshing to see that the virtues of masculinity, male sovereignty and just general sanity and logic still exist somewhere!
WELCOME HOME! I enjoyed your intro, we have allot in common in the way we think, and the decisive actions we take, that’s what we do, we’re MGTOW……
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