POW gets Called Up? Enlistmeknot!

[,Participant 1301]

Prisoner Of War.
Divorce took 13 months. Over a quarter million $. Rage and Anger Red-lined. Lost one house, 2 cats.
Within 6 months lost position at work. 9yr <108 month> alimony sentence. She never ever said why.
40 months ago.

NOW- I’m making my bills. Having fun, Fit beyond anything in the past. Girl Free totally.

And funny, now the ex wants dinner out Dutch. ( we have had dinner with the kids on their birthdays most of the time )

I remember my lawyer telling me that just “ONE Day remarried” and all the alimony goes away, all the retirement money comes back to my control. And that IF she sued again, that she could ONLY be entitled to marriage property/income/retirement from the remarried date forward (if long enough), nothing from the past.

never pined about her
no sparks left
no sex wanted or offered

I think it has sunk in that she f~~~ed up four years ago. She reaches for my hand walking to the car.

Wonder if I could scam her for ONE Day…. things that make you go hmmmm. Me thinks it would somehow cost MORE in the end.
She cannot possibly afford the house at month 109.
hmmmmmm.

with joy/without hate

[AutoliteParticipant]

, wrote:

I remember my lawyer telling me that just “ONE Day remarried” and all the alimony goes away, all the retirement money comes back to my control. And that IF she sued again, that she could ONLY be entitled to marriage property/income/retirement from the remarried date forward (if long enough), nothing from the past.

It sounds too good to be true…

[Anonymous 43]

ummm

she couldn’t find anyone else to f~~~.
oh wait this guy’s dick has been up my c~~~…let’s try him again…

worse she remarries you and you can’t get rid of here no matter what you do. Now you are f~~~ed again.

She left you, then realized the world is a scary place. She will hang on to you for dear life.

So when you wake up from this fantasy, go slam your doinkus in a cabinet door for this wishful thinking.

[Anonymous 5]

Mine did the same in approximately the same time frame, roughly 3 years.
No real reason for the divorce, just, “I’m not happy”

I moved interstate and came back for a week about 3 years later because of something with one of the kids.
She came up and started talking to me and out of nowhere she said to drop my laundry around her place and she’d cook me a nice home cooked meal.
It may not sound much but I lived with this woman for 17 years, I knew exactly from her tone of voice and mannerisms, she was trying to get me to f~~~ her.
I very politely declined. I was already getting stray vadge at the time.
We have no alimony laws here so there was no incentive what so ever.

Women get their SMV (Sexual Market Value) and their MMV (Marriage Market Value) totally confused and think one is equal to the other.
They’re poles apart.
The vast majority of women, even many landwhales, can walk into a bar and get a man to f~~~ them, no problem.
Above average post wallers can get men seriously competing for them,,,,for sex,,, but marriage??? I don’t think so.

Women in marriages who have affairs think they can get re-married just as easily as they can get a f~~~,,,,totally, incorrect.
It takes a few years of trial and error for them to work out that it doesn’t work like that. Be wary of being monkey branched at that stage.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

She’s been riding the c~~~ carousel on your dime for years. It’s up to you, but in my mind no amount of money could persuade me to cuck myself into taking her back…my self worth would be at stake. You already know how she honors her vows. JMHO

BVC

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Anonymous wrote:

MMV (Marriage Market Value)

I’ve never seen this term used before. I like it. It needs to be in the MGTOW glossary.

[,Participant 1301]

yes, thanks.
I am suspicious and we shall see.

no un-calculated move.

with joy/without hate

[RoyDalParticipant]

She don’t know what she’s lost until he’s gone.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[rightturnclydeParticipant 705]

MRHOW – When I first read your post I though how awesome it would be if you could do that. Then I thought about the likelyhood of any of us having a chance against our judicial system. Here’s how I see the math on your 1 day marriage thought: Women scorned = false assault charges = single day marriage annulled + new lawyer fees + return to previous spousal support enforcement + go to jail + lose job.

[,Participant 1301]

Yeah, RTC, I see, but not intended to be advice. just a possibility for me from past lawyer discussions, and right on its all about the financialfantasy thought experiment. The inability to return to past obligations is the tickler and the appeal.

She and I had become civilized after the red rage periods. Not close, civil. Now tries to act clingy for some goofy reason. Like the divorce was the biggest s~~~ test she could bring out and it didn’t hurt me like she wanted it to. I drove a lot of terms on the divorce, I learned quickly that MY lawyers didn’t and wouldn’t fight for me or my money the way I did. They all say that there is a magic formula that the courts use and thats that. That formula = MAN GETS F~~~ED assume the position. I went to work on figures and values and stuff. I DID NOT WIN but I sure as hell came out better than the missionaryman.

WE(she and I) brokered an agreement without the lawyers. I made two errors because I caved on one item and forgot about another when her lawyer got involved in the cubical.
It pays to be non-emotional at all times and to have a written list.

Essentially I see the opportunity to be a c~~~man and I reject it. I have known a few couples who remarried their exes after a short while and it didn’t work the second time either.

ANY MAN marrying should be made to follow FIVE divorce cases from start to finish.
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f~~~ they are.

with joy/without hate

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

No no no f~~~ no!!!

If I was divorced raped to the tune of a quarter million dollars and nine years alimony I don’t give a f~~~ if she was the mother of my children I would never be near her again. Call it Red pill wage for ever call it scorn call it spite but I hold that f~~~ing s~~~ forever.

God Damn… Yes I am that guy.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[,Participant 1301]

PuniShredder wrote:

quarter million dollars and nine years alimony

not to embellish, its included in the tally
the qm is the whole deal value. lawyers, alimonies, equity loss, retirement loss

it will be larger numbers with inflation and was the truest calculation I could make.
shoot, that’s cheap from what I read about but I change oil and bust tires. Its a life changing large amount to me. which is what brings me to the reason to ponder and post.

with joy/without hate

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

, wrote:

Shreddage wrote:

quarter million dollars and nine years alimony

not to embellish, its included in the tally
the qm is the whole deal value. lawyers, alimonies, equity loss, retirement loss

it will be larger numbers with inflation and was the truest calculation I could make.
shoot, that’s cheap from what I read about but I change oil and bust tires. Its a life changing large amount to me. which is what brings me to the reason to ponder and post.

I believe if you were me, she would meet with an unfortunate boating accident.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[DaveVParticipant 450]

, wrote:

Divorce took 13 months. Over a quarter million $. Rage and Anger Red-lined. Lost one house, 2 cats.
Within 6 months lost position at work. 9yr <108 month> alimony sentence. She never ever said why.

Sorry to hear that dude. But its good to see you are recovering. There is light at the end of the tunnel when you go MGTOW.

As for what lawyers say…I treat them like politicians…DON’T believe them, DON’T trust them.

Like you said, you did your own defence. They won’t fight for you, they are only interested in what’s in it for themselves i.e. money.

As for the ex….well you know her better than us….but my honest view is why would any rational man put his d*ick in the ‘blender’ aka the family courts system. No man I know wants to live with a single mom because of the legal and financial implications that the courts will laden him with if SHE decides she wants to leave for WHATEVER reason.

The sad apart about marriage is that they don’t put a Government Health warning on it. I am all for making it mandatory for both parties (before they get married or cohabit), especially if they are going to have kids, to sit through video’s and summaries of divorce proceedings. Then they should look at the cost and sanity implications of what happens when it goes wrong…and before people say, that’s only if it goes wrong…over 42% of marriages fail (if you count LTR/cohabiting relationships that ‘fail’ into the equation, its over 75% – and no different to marriages IF you have kids/she is a single mom).

The sad part in the UK, was that we have a Child Support Agency (CSA), who collect alimony and set the limits via the Family Courts here. They way it was sold to the public was the CSA was to go after the fathers of kids who where absent, and the majority were the low income/welfare dads. However the CSA soon realized it was impossible to get money out of low income fathers (either because they were on welfare, on drugs, alcoholics, or in prison for other crimes). So they went after working dads (of all backgrounds). Generally these guys provided support already without the courts, came to their own arrangements about custody, paid taxes, were generally law abiding and decent fathers. But they were easy targets for the Family Courts, and lawyers saw them as a cash cow, to be milked as often as they could get them into court. The endless suffering the CSA caused was immeasurable. They said they were acting on behalf the children, but in reality, they destroyed these families, embittered men and women and psychologically damaged the children because it brought the worst out in people.

Most women I know under this new guise of feminism, once divorced realize that making your way in the real world is tough. Working for a living does suck most of the time. You want equality, great, by all means take it, cos equality means doing sh*t jobs, working long hours, sometimes getting dirty, having to take crap from management (and for me, being sent to remote locations, 200 km away from civilization/emergency services, to fix something in crappy weather at 4 am because my boss tells me to)…all so I can be underappreciated by a spouse (well now ex spouse) who racked up £15,000 ($18,000) of credit card bills in 3 months and complains I didn’t buy her favorite soya milk on the way back from work, even though she slept in till 11 am.

Dude, in all seriousness, although your life is your own, I would not accept her back. Regardless of whether you believe she has changed or not, the system hasn’t changed.

D G I Do not. Get. Involved.

Don’t get angry, it serves no one. It only harms you. Just live your life free. Good luck dude.

D. G. I. Don't. Get. Involved. (Be happy, and stress not)

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Anonymous wrote:

Women in marriages who have affairs think they can get re-married just as easily as they can get a f~~~,,,,totally, incorrect.

Agree with you. No guy, who is aware of the family/divorce laws, who has any notable assets, would ever get involved/marry a divorced woman, especially one who has had an affair whilst in a marriage.

Then they wonder why there are no ‘good guys’ around. They then settle for ‘nice guys’ i.e. beta’s…but ultimately are never happy with them, and within several months/years (usually within 7 years) have another affair….

D Do not
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D. G. I. Don't. Get. Involved. (Be happy, and stress not)

[,Participant 1301]

DaveV wrote:

The sad apart about marriage is that they don’t put a Government Health warning on it. I am all for making it mandatory for both parties (before they get married or cohabit), especially if they are going to have kids, to sit through video’s and summaries of divorce proceedings. Then they should look at the cost and sanity implications of what happens when it goes wrong…

AMEN to that! and now Enlistmeknot Chapter two….

for me, just now, it gets better…hmm?
I also seemingly have an opportunity to return to a supervision position like my previous one. 20% more pay and the return to the life shortening stresses…
During my red pill exposure I had lost my position due to budget stuff (and treachery and sent down to just above janitor) but have since recovered health and wellness and focus and longevity.

Funny as s~~~… things keep coming back around.
I suppose it makes me stronger or more resolute. but I am not inclined to a Sequel just now.

hmm in Marriage, you get a one way contract, a Tatoo, a participation trophy, a sensory deprivation chamber, stress tests, emotion sicknesses, and near the end usually a wrap of duct tape from head to toe just before she plunges you down the cannon barrel, secures one end of the tape and lights the court’s fuse.
BOOM!
Careless, now a Hairless ascent. Through five flaming hoops and a couple razor wire screens and brick walls. Plenty of time for screaming.(get my meaning?)
While you are sailing and wailing, take the time and learn to fly. sore sore soar.
Never land in Never-Never-Land. Keep y’ur dick in a vice, don’t try it twice.

I can’t stand revolving doors or turnstiles; there are usually trap doors about.

with joy/without hate

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

One chance, per woman, per lifetime. That sailboat has left the pier let the ocean of life deal with her while you are on stable land.

[,Participant 1301]

Okay, it seems to be the retro 90’s for me.
The decade of the boomerang. Retread rock, Retread athletes, Retread fad. Retread Vag.

Beginning the post was about the ex.
.
Then it was my childhood BEST friend’s wife asking me ‘out for a drink’, and it was somes~~~test for (me? and) my friend. or she was going fuktard on him.. I will never know perhaps. She did this before they got married 32yrs ago when she wasn’t sure of marrying. I told her I’d taker her across state lines and marry her then. Cried herself to an alcohol slumber. Next morning she wouldn’t go. I didn’t nail her, no intention, and she decided to stay with him, as she should have from the start. One of my finest s~~~testbackatya moments.

All that together makes me understand how she had taken his and my friendship into a 33yr cooler.

Next was a retread girlfriend- that’s a big NO.

Currently its the Retread of the Lost Job available.

It could kill me. Or worse, kill my serenity. but $10-20K more annum is making a thought twitch and a wallet itch.
IS SOMEBODY PLAYING MY COUNTREE SONGS BAAKARDS? or Can I lose everything twice>?

Another Retread Option. Its getting ridiculous.
Retreads are illegal as Steer tires.

For me, it’s been GroundHog Day year.

with joy/without hate

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