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An average man can be ignored by women for many years until he overcomes a difficult challenge and wins a prize, promotion, cash bonus, etc.
I realize we’ve discussed this topic before in the MGTOW community (and among Tom Leykis’ fans as well). I’m bringing it up again because I’m having a red pill rage moment. I am wondering if women, in general, are really sincere when they say they like a man.
When a man achieves something great, he is honored by the members of his community. Once he is granted that social status, women suddenly appear before him. Single & available (sometimes married), lovely women want to hang out with him because they admire him for what he achieved in life. Some of them will go along with whatever you like: hot tub parties, threesomes on your bed, lap dances, etc. These same women cannot be found when a man is struggling to find a job and upgrade his life.
I am able to admire a woman based on her looks and personality. She doesn’t have to do anything special in life for me to desire to hang out with her. She does not have to have a lot of material possessions, a large bank account, gold medals, a lot of friends, etc.
A lot of women accuse men of being shallow because they like a woman based on her looks. But nobody calls women shallow if they won’t date some guy who works at Walmart or earns his paycheck by washing dishes or mopping floors.
Are women in love with the status of a man instead of the man? To me, a man’s admiration of a woman’s looks and personality seems more genuine.
What I want is some fantasy world where women can love a man based on who he is and not the external factors that surround him or are associated with him.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
A lot of women accuse men of being shallow because they like a woman based on her looks. But nobody calls women shallow if they won’t date some guy who works at Walmart or earns his paycheck by washing dishes or mopping floors.
It is all about their access to your resources. Wallet closed!
Are women in love with the status of a man instead of the man?
Short answer: Yes. /some exceptions for Chad Thunderc~~~/
Good topic!
they admire him for what he achieved in life.
I only disagree on that part. At most she admire him for what he can do FOR HER… but she is equally resentful because we see it all the time, when women want _____x______ from a man, they end up resenting him for exactly what she wanted in the first place.
i.e. security, stability, love, support etc. . . .
Expect those things from HER, she begins to resent you for them. It never fails. You may even be shamed for that and called a “loser”. As far as she is concerned, these things should flow DOWN from you over to her – and it doesn’t work in reverse.
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On admiring a man’s life achievements, thats’ such bulls~~~. I have had women expect “congratulations” and parties with showers of gifts thrown at them – simply because she said “yes” to a proposal, and got pregnant from having unprotected sex. And everyone should now start gushing over her.
I should CONGRATULATE her for that?????
Where’s a man’s f~~~ing party and “congratulations” for the years it took him to build a company out of nothing? Now that’s a difficult birth. Women just won’t celebrate a man’s achievements and life choices. Look at Schwarzenegger. Look at Trump. These guys have accomplished the impossible.
You’ll actually be SHAMED before you’re congratulated if your “achievements” don’t include impregnating a female or proposing marriage to one because you would rather build an airplane.
I can’t recall the last time a woman “admired” a man for his achievements. They will more likely want to take him down.
No wait. I just lied.
The last time I heard a woman admire a man for his achievements and life choices was just after he died when she said all kinds s~~~ she never told him when he was alive. She called him a “good man”. Wow. What an honor.
I am able to admire a woman based on her looks and personality.
That’s just attraction – not admiration. Personality can also be faked. It washes on and off like makeup. Its’ CHARACTER that is admirable and women don’t give a f~~~ about “character” nor do they look for valuable character qualities.
She doesn’t have to do anything special in life for me to desire to hang out with her. She does not have to have a lot of material possessions, a large bank account, gold medals, a lot of friends, etc.
A woman can be as dumb as a bag of hammers , have no goals, no education, no training, no money, no business success, no fame, no power and still be considered an acceptable member of society. She can even collect applause for that.
A man can not.
Men are required and expected to EARN their way out of worthlessness.
And even when you do, you’re not going to be “admired” for it.Are women in love with the status of a man instead of the man?
Uh …. yeah…. and it’s lesson number one, really.
If women had any eye for real value and character, they wouldn’t dump or “reject” a hard working and extremely dedicated furniture mover – who looks at her with “admiration”. But 20 years later when he has his own moving company and a fleet of trucks and employees, exactly the same woman will now ring his phone off the hook because NOW he’s “good enough” for her.
You don’t even need to “accomplish” it!
You can just LOOK like you accomplished it.where women can love a man based on who he is
Keep dreaming.
Women “love” shoes.
Just listen to what they call “AMAAAAAZING”.
“This ice cream is AMAAZING.”
“She’s got an AMAAZING personality.”
“My friend is AMAAZING.”
“These cookies are AMAAZING.”
“OMG that song is AMAAZING.”
“That dress is AMAAZING.”No matter what you accomplish in life – even if you’re Trump and accomplish the impossible and you become president against all forces on the planet that are against you . . . a woman will NEVER admire a man enough to so passionately tell him he’s AMAAZING.
Those chocolate chip cookies are “amazing”, though.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.The gold digging women of this generation believe they can ride the c~~~ carousel into their thirties and then find a successful man to marry.
It do not work that way.
The women want the trophy without the participating in the race.
Sure, we hear plenty of times such women getting married, having a couple of kids and then taking their husband through divorce rape for monthly payments of child supper and alimony.
But these were not successful men. These were the men such women settled on.
This was not the trophy such women were hoping to find.
You only hear of a handle of times a year where the multi-millionaire and billionaire husbands getting divorce raped. It does not happen often and it is rare for women to do so.
The only time this has worked are by those women between the ages of 18 to 23, whom were an “eight” or higher without make-up, whom ditched the c~~~ carousel early to focus on the target they wanted to marry. And that is still a gamble for such women.

Anonymous14The fact that women head for the door so often when a man is down on his luck is all we really need to know. Story after story here of how women have pulled the ripcord whenever things got a little rough then monkey branched to a guy who was doing better at the moment sums it all up. We are nothing more than tools used to achieve their aspirations for the most part.
I have a friend… His wife left him because, in her words “She thought he was going to be making more money by now considering his level of education”. And they were doing just fine, she just wanted MORE and was going to go out and get it before her SMV hit zero as the wall was closing in fast.

Anonymous14What I want is some fantasy world where women can love a man based on who he is and not the external factors that surround him or are associated with him.
Oh, we all wish this could happen, but it never will. We are animals and natural selection dictates that women will never get to this point. If they did however, the world would change DRAMATICLY. If Women were able to transcend their animal nature and stop making men COMPETE for them… s~~~, we may then finally see peace on Earth.
The fact that women head for the door so often when a man is down on his luck is all we really need to know
Yes.
Bar Bar deconstructed that and showed “traditional relationships” are nothing but a business and a bottom line.
He even showed it in LESBIAN relationships where no man is involved at all.
So it’s really not about you, or me, or we, or “men” at all!
It’s just the way women ARE, even when no men are around.And really, how a woman views you is totally irrelevant. You’re not even “human” in a way. She’s there for selfish reasons. That’s also were the “I guess you’ll do” casual attitude comes from, and they don’t even appear to be discerning at all.
You don’t want to marry her?
No problem! She’ll just marry the next one.It’s nothing personal. It’s not a good thing when she wants you, and it’s not a bad thing when she doesn’t.
The fact that women view “relationship” as a selfish means of getting provision – and nothing else – literally guarantees that her “rejection” is as worthless as her approval.
The women want the trophy without the participating in the race.
It really doesn’t matter “what she wants”.
I’m not even just sayin’ it.IT REALY DOESN’T MATTER.
Best thing a man can do is understand it, adjust and act accordingly, because he knows something she doesn’t even understand about herself – when she looks him in the eye and says “i love you”.
If Women were able to transcend their animal nature and stop making men COMPETE for them
They compete with each other FAR more aggressively.
They stick NEEDLES in each others dresses at beauty pageants(!!!!)No man ever booby trapped my weights at the gym to prevent me from “being more attractive” , or scratched up my car if it was nicer than his. If a man were to decide to “compete” with me for females . . . I would tell him he can have them, because we know something he doesn’t.
He’s still so deluded to think women are worth competing FOR.
I won’t bother correcting him.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous54Women will not love you for your good character, or efforts in life.
They are result oriented.They dont care how or where you got the money. They just want it.
And if you fail, you are worthless in their eyes.
Women always claim they’re getting dolled up for us. Truly, women are more visual than men. That’s why they shudder when another woman in the room is wearing the same shoes, or dress, or blouse that she is. They are always scrutinizing other women…the competition. If a guy in the group is wearing jeans, t-shirt and cheap sandals they ignore him. If he’s wearing Armani and a Rolex, they swarm him. It’s not the way he looks, it’s the price tags on his clothes that they see. They want a trophy they can show off to the rest of the hive for validation that they’re ‘doing it right’. Women will literally kill each other over these trophies. And once they’ve bagged a ‘good one’ the conditioning begins. His achievements become what he has done for her lately, like the vacation he took her on, or the new trinket she’s wearing. All so she can brag to the hive. They don’t really care about the men at all, only what the men can provide. AWALT.
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

Anonymous14He’s still so deluded to think women are worth competing FOR.
I won’t bother correcting him.Not really sure where you get that idea from, I dropped out of that type of thinking about a decade ago. To say I wish things were not the way they are is different than saying I understand how they are and began to act accordingly long ago. Saying one wishes that things are not the way they are is also the sentiment in the last line of the OP.
Not really sure where you get that idea from, I dropped out of that type of thinking about a decade ago
I wasn’t speaking about you. I was speaking about “any guy” (in the previous paragraph) who creates a conflict or competes with other guys for women.
I quoted you , but my comment beneath was addressed “out there” instead of specifically at you. Apolz if you thought I was making a presumption.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous14Not really sure where you get that idea from, I dropped out of that type of thinking about a decade ago
I wasn’t speaking about you. I was speaking about “any guy” (in the previous paragraph) who creates a conflict or competes with other guys for women.
I quoted you , but my comment beneath was addressed “out there” instead of specifically at you. Apolz if you thought I was making a presumption.
Ah, sorry, my bad as well then, it felt directed at me.
What I want is some fantasy world where women can love a man based on who he is and not the external factors that surround him or are associated with him.
If you find that world please let me know. Would be better than this s~~~ hole humanity created.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
Ah, sorry, my bad as well then, it felt directed at me.
No my bad. maybe I wasn’t clear enough .
“If a man were to decide to “compete” with me for females . . . I would tell him . . . He’s still so deluded…”. I meant the 3rd person there.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I am wondering if women, in general, are really sincere when they say they like a man.
Short answer: NO.
Long answer: F~~~ NO.Women are never sincere when they say anything. To a man. To another woman. To themselves. To a judge or jury. You get the picture.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
When I was young (I’m 67) women hadn’t yet been polluted with the proliferation of social Marxism that’s destroyed the family, gender, morality, and the idea of personal responsibility in this country. Back in the early 60’s women wanted to find a good man to build the ‘nest’ and ‘have’ a home. Men wanted to find a woman that was a good home builder that would love and cherish him forever while he did all the necessary things to provide for the home. They were best friends and lovers. Social Marxism (the love of university professors, Hollywood elite, and the Political debauched) hates the family, hates gender identity, hates children having any idea who their parents are because the left wing nut cases that invented it were pretty messed up dudes (Marx, Engels, Alinsky [one of Hilary’s heros], etc.). So now women want a man much like you or I want a plumber to service our toilet. They want you to pay the bills, provide semen (if they want a child), accept a divorce when they want to monkey-branch, pay alimony so they can vacation with their next boy friend, pay child support while you in fact pay everything for the child you both had. While you were dating they probably acted like they loved you dearly to pull you in. Once you were hooked, you were treated like a pool-boy until your last check arrived in the mail post divorce. They think they are acting like ‘liberated women,’ when in fact they are acting like common criminals. Finding a woman that doesn’t fit this mold might be difficult. Look for a woman that never owned a television, or went to an American school, or communicated with other members of the Hive – maybe Sasquatch’s daughter?
Are women in love with the status of a man instead of the man?
It is the status of the man they are after and they are after it for themselves.
Back in my university days, I once witnessed the son of a wealthy man pick up a girl. At first, when he started talking to her, she looked at him like he was some kind of creep. But as soon as he mentioned his name, the girl literally wrapped her arm around his- as if to say “I’m all yours now”…or the other way round.
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.During my blue pill era of banging women, I got bored once.
Really bored.
And in Sky-0’s world, boredom is the foundation of some serious research.
Met a married flight attendant. (I had already banged Southwest, Delta & Alaska. This one was United)
It was obvious she was down to f~~~ when I met her. She gave me her number and later that night in the same city, we banged like porn stars all night.
I should post some of the texts I got from her in the three week period that followed. LOL
I made the mistake of redefining the meaning of the word orgasm with her and she wasn’t going to let me just vanish. (BTW: First woman that I’ve been with that did ATM after anal. I was like, WTF!!’
Anyway. She wanted more Sky-0. Over the course of the texts and phone calls at night. I came to realize she had a beta wallet cuckold. It wasn’t the first time she cheated either.
Fast forward a month later, and her tingles were on overload. She told me she would be in my city the following weekend. (I though it was for work but she actually made a trip out on her own)
I agreed to pick her up at the airport ad she could stay at Sky-0’s HQ.
Then I initiated, Operation: ALF (Alpha Loser F~~~) just to see if she would bang me again amidst the apocalyptic wasteland I was about to stage.
Phase One was calling a buddy to have him help me remove all the furniture in my house. I had a one car detached garage that worked great. We moved all my furniture into it. My house was empty. I then dumped a huge coin jar out on the kitchen countertop (that I mentioned to her was so I could take the change to Coinstar ad use the money to pay my power bill) – Which I needed to pre-stage by turning the breakers off for my house and cut the power off myself. Grabbed two flashlights from the garage and left them in the living room. (then I ran the hot water that was still in the hw tank out so she would have to take a shower in cold water). Final phase was parking my new Jeep Wrangler at my cousins house and making sure my 23 year old Ford Ranger started.
Then it was on. Picked her up at the airport in the Ford Ranger that had rust on it and some fender damage. It didn’t phase her.
Got back to Sky HQ and explained that the power was off because I didn’t pay the bill. Coinstar change on the counter. No furniture. I just can’t afford any. Still didn’t phase her. We went out to dinner – and she paid for it.
Now, you are probably all wondering about the bed. That was the ultimate test. An inflatable camping mattress on the floor with a blanket and one pillow.
And we spent the next three days banging like porn stars and she drained every available load out of me. At one point after banging for the eight time in 24 hours there was nothing left when she blew me. The equivalent of three rain drops came out. And that was it.
We had to eat out every night due to the lack of power at the house. She paid for it all. Never complained about the ice cold water from the shower.
And she kept the f~~~ fest going right up until I had two hours to get her back to the airport on the last morning.
That entire situation lasted about ten more months. With her visiting as well as giving me free standby flight passes to go to her when she would have a layover in a city that was close.
I even got free standby flight passes from her when I wanted to fly to other cities to see bands that were on tour but didn’t have a show scheduled where I lived.
I have to admit. I still miss doing 69 with her. It was her pheromones, no doubt. Both holes just staring right at me while she took another load down her throat.
Having a Sky-0 blue pill relapse moment right now, so I should probably go to sleep.
Goodnight my brothers.
Peace,
Sky-0
During my blue pill era of banging women, I got bored once.
Really bored.
And in Sky-0’s world, boredom is the foundation of some serious research.
Met a married flight attendant. (I had already banged Southwest, Delta & Alaska. This one was United)
It was obvious she was down to f~~~ when I met her. She gave me her number and later that night in the same city, we banged like porn stars all night.
I should post some of the texts I got from her in the three week period that followed. LOL
I made the mistake of redefining the meaning of the word orgasm with her and she wasn’t going to let me just vanish. (BTW: First woman that I’ve been with that did ATM after anal. I was like, WTF!!’
Anyway. She wanted more Sky-0. Over the course of the texts and phone calls at night. I came to realize she had a beta wallet cuckold. It wasn’t the first time she cheated either.
Fast forward a month later, and her tingles were on overload. She told me she would be in my city the following weekend. (I though it was for work but she actually made a trip out on her own)
I agreed to pick her up at the airport ad she could stay at Sky-0’s HQ.
Then I initiated, Operation: ALF (Alpha Loser F~~~) just to see if she would bang me again amidst the apocalyptic wasteland I was about to stage.
Phase One was calling a buddy to have him help me remove all the furniture in my house. I had a one car detached garage that worked great. We moved all my furniture into it. My house was empty. I then dumped a huge coin jar out on the kitchen countertop (that I mentioned to her was so I could take the change to Coinstar ad use the money to pay my power bill) – Which I needed to pre-stage by turning the breakers off for my house and cut the power off myself. Grabbed two flashlights from the garage and left them in the living room. (then I ran the hot water that was still in the hw tank out so she would have to take a shower in cold water). Final phase was parking my new Jeep Wrangler at my cousins house and making sure my 23 year old Ford Ranger started.
Then it was on. Picked her up at the airport in the Ford Ranger that had rust on it and some fender damage. It didn’t phase her.
Got back to Sky HQ and explained that the power was off because I didn’t pay the bill. Coinstar change on the counter. No furniture. I just can’t afford any. Still didn’t phase her. We went out to dinner – and she paid for it.
Now, you are probably all wondering about the bed. That was the ultimate test. An inflatable camping mattress on the floor with a blanket and one pillow.
And we spent the next three days banging like porn stars and she drained every available load out of me. At one point after banging for the eight time in 24 hours there was nothing left when she blew me. The equivalent of three rain drops came out. And that was it.
We had to eat out every night due to the lack of power at the house. She paid for it all. Never complained about the ice cold water from the shower.
And she kept the f~~~ fest going right up until I had two hours to get her back to the airport on the last morning.
That entire situation lasted about ten more months. With her visiting as well as giving me free standby flight passes to go to her when she would have a layover in a city that was close.
I even got free standby flight passes from her when I wanted to fly to other cities to see bands that were on tour but didn’t have a show scheduled where I lived.
I have to admit. I still miss doing 69 with her. It was her pheromones, no doubt. Both holes just staring right at me while she took another load down her throat.
Having a Sky-0 blue pill relapse moment right now, so I should probably go to sleep.
Goodnight my brothers.
Peace,
Sky-0
They use you for sex too huh? Trouble I’ve found is each time I kick a slut out of my life whose only skills are sex and cooking (paying for stuff maybe), her personality is c~~~ish. I mourn the sex, only for the next one to be even better in bed and even more of a c~~~. Such women are tempting but super toxic and super destructive to many relationships. They are the homewreckers.
Whether you were a Chad, an Alpha or whatever to them is irrelevant.
You were the boytoy and she was using YOU.If you fall down 7 times, get up 8
But nobody calls women shallow if they won’t date some guy who works at Walmart or earns his paycheck by washing dishes or mopping floors.
Rejecting a man because he isn’t wealthy doesn’t mean a woman is shallow.
It means she’s a whore.
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