Police officers,Vets and PTSD

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Hi guys.

Are there any ex or still serving Cops and vets on this forum and how are you guys coping with PTSD ?
Also what do you do to manage it and if you have overcome it, how did you do it?

Zero Tolerance

[Anonymous 42]

PTSD isn’t reserved for officers as if you have to be nobility to suffer it’s effects, ask any person living in a city that took the wrong turn at the wrong time. Ask any child living in deteriorated America and you’ll see it’s not a code of honor related to PTSD.
Ask some bloke that’s living in the streets as a fugitive whereas only months before he was married with children and working 60 hrs a week, and to his dismay and surprise his wife filed false charges, evicting him from home and family, then a warrant is issued for his arrest for non payment of child support, because he lost his job three weeks earlier from all the stress.
Ask him how much concern he now holds for others?
Nothing erodes empathy better than PTSD. Now a days, everyone’s got it!

PTSD: Pushed To Severe Depression.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Reserved ?
Nobility ?
Code of honor ?

Are you venting at me ?
Do you think, just because I asked specific questions I’m not aware of a multitude of other
problems people face every day ? You think I should have no concern about those men and how they deal with those problems ?

If this is some kind of thought, ideas or tone policing coming from you, well . .
Fuck You.
ps: and thanks for the welcome.

Zero Tolerance

[HitmanParticipant]

Hahaha! Take it easy brother. .
I have ptsd..
Almost wound up on the streets like mgtower described. .I don’t think he was trying to vent on you. .just expanding the definition of ptsd you gave. .
I think. ..
I recommend drinking heavily and then slowly drinking less as time passes. .seriously.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Dr. Sable wrote:

how are you guys coping with PTSD?

I first had to come to the realization that no one, and I mean no one was going to get me back to a normal life. The Veteran’s Administration does not care about you. A few individuals may, but as a whole, the VA itself does not have a culture of caring.

Using my own insurance and money, I had to shop around for a decent shrink. Avoid women. It’s about like trying to tell an apple what it is like to be an orange.

Therapeutically I had to establish new habits in thinking and emotional response. When anger arises, I consciously overlay my desire for calm. Be aware of your triggers and consciously be ready to take charge of your emotional responses.

I also write. I haven’t published anything yet but putting things down in words is a great way to get things of your chest and gain some perspective. Saying that you are not a writer doesn’t matter. Just hammer it down on paper or on the computer. You will develop a flow after a while.

Go to the gym. After all of my injuries, I can no longer run. So I swim. Weight train. Walk.

Avoid alcohol and drugs. Social drinking is okay but it is a potential trap. I fell in to drinking after my last deployment. I had lost the ability to fall asleep. It took two years to change my sleeping habits to where I didn’t need it any longer. I still drink occasionally but I am not dependent upon it to sleep.

Develop you own interests and hobbies. I have many. Perhaps too many and not enough time and money to explore all of them.

I’m not the most social of people but I try to get involved. Network with people of similar interests. Don’t be afraid to make new acquaintances. I man mistook me for someone he new last month. I took the occasion as an opportunity. Because of this, I am helping him plan his retirement.

I remind myself of this from time to time. I have it pinned to the board next to my desk.

“Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be.

And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.”

Max Ehrmann, “Desiderata”

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Hitman wrote:

I don’t think he was trying to vent on you. .just expanding the definition of ptsd you gave. .
I think. ..

That may be so but not the way I read or understood it.
I’m not 15, I’m 50 and I don’t need to be patronized or told of other definitions by some one who knows jack s~~~ about me. I was specific in my questions so why f~~~ around. It’s wrong assumptions like that, that cause s~~~. Hope he understands.

Zero Tolerance

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Its like a ghost/shadow for me. Ive learned what to avoid …. as SM said … its the fkg triggers that get me now and then. I try to avoid but life justs not that nice.

I zen when I can. I cant take women around me …. except my daughter who has seen the worst of me ….. she was part of my cure … and focus.

When things get bad … like 2-3 nightmares a week …. I get the fk out to nature …. wilderness …. I just keep going until the demons run out of food and water.

I think Im as good as Im going to get. Im about 70% of the guy I was.

Im just not that guy I was 20 years back ….. parts of my soul are missing …. so I guard whats left with fire and hail. Nobody gets a slice of whats left.

The good news is I now know I can make it through.

AVOID SHADOW PEOPLE …… they suck your life force away.

[HitmanParticipant]

I’m out of this one! Sorry.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Dr. Sable wrote:

Are you venting at me ?

These men are your friends, or they are trying to be. Your hostility is totally understandable, and it is misdirected. Give your friends a break. Give them a break.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Hitman wrote:

I’m out of this one! Sorry.

So am I and don’t be sorry.
No point to this post any more.

Zero Tolerance

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

Fishing helps for me, getting out on the river and worrying about nothing but slamming that fish

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[Anonymous 42]

Dr. Sable wrote:

Reserved ?
Nobility ?
Code of honor ?

Are you venting at me ?
Do you think, just because I asked specific questions I’m not aware of a multitude of other
problems people face every day ? You think I should have no concern about those men and how they deal with those problems ?

If this is some kind of thought, ideas or tone policing coming from you, well . .
F~~~ You.
ps: and thanks for the welcome.

OK I was a little harsh, it’s just that every time PTSD comes up someone is always relating it to police and military, like no one else can be suffering it’s sole wrenching effects. Sorry for being harsh, and welcome, and f~~~ you too…

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Anonymous wrote:

OK I was a little harsh, it’s just that every time PTSD comes up someone is always relating it to police and military, like no one else can be suffering it’s sole wrenching effects. Sorry for being harsh, and welcome, and f~~~ you too…

Ghosts of my past are dead and buried. I only wanted to help other men here.
Good and tx for clearing the air.

Zero Tolerance

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