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Gentlemen
How did I find myself here on MGTOW.com? A happy accident, I guess.You see until yesterday I had no idea what MGTOW or Red Pill was and clueless about “game” too. However, here on extended vacation in Thailand I had noticed the high number of young women sporting tattoos. I’m not talking about a little unicorn on the ankle here, I’m talking ugly black ink monstrosities covering the whole arm or back. Gross! I decided to try to understand the phenomenon so googled it. ( I’ll write another post on this topic later ) One of the results was posted on “Return of Kings”. That was my first taste of the red pill, but in truth it was a familiar taste, it had been on my lips for some time, red pill just gave it a name.
So I read more, and more and more, until I found an article entitled “Why “Men Going Their Own Way” Is No Way For Men To Go” The article stated that MGTOW were a bunch of sad internet nerd losers, 40 year old virgins forced into MGTOW by a lifetime of rejection by women. It didn’t sound so attractive so why did I decide to investigate further? Well, it had struck me that red pill has at its heart a fundamental paradox, that is to say that for all its talk of asserting masculine values and the quest to achieve Alpha status red pill is actually about pleasing women, giving women what they actually want instead of what they tell us they want. Red pill is just as much a system of female control as blue pill. So the only true way to express ones masculinity, if you truly and sincerely don’t give a flying f~~~ about what women think, want, need or crave is MGTOW.
I am not a misogynist, I am not a homosexual, I have had my share of women and was married once ( and yes, I divorced her ). I am a feminist in that I believe men and women should be treated equally under the law, unfortunately in too many instances the law has swung in favour of women. I do not believe women are evil, although some do evil things. I have had my share of knocks but then again I have given as good as I got.
It’s just that women bore me and I have come to a juncture in my life when I no longer feel the need to carry the excess baggage a woman represents any longer. I have always been “other”. I have always seen through and rejected blue pill BS. I have always traveled my own path, its just that in the past women have been welcome to come along for the ride. Now they are not.
Thank you.
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
Welcome!
I see the red pill as a recognition and acceptance of reality over fantasy, and the blue pill as choosing the fantasy, the unreality, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Like in The Matrix.
When you see and experience things that destroy your illusions and give you a glimpse of the reality, that strip away the blinders and show you the ugly truth, you have the choice of ignoring or denying the truth (taking the Blue Pill) or accepting the truth into your reality (taking the Red Pill)
Once you have taken the red pill, you have to choose how to deal with it and continue living with that knowledge in a way that suits you, to Go your Own Way.
MGTOWs have taken the red pill, often many red pills, due to experiences with relationships and man-woman interactions that shattered the society-instilled illusions of how love, marriage, etc. should or could be and caused them to seek a path outside of society’s expectations. Many have given up on any hope or desire to return to the old paradigm and just want to be left out of the whole nasty, unfair mess.
The idea that MGTOWs are nerds who could never get laid or gays, or woman-hating creeps is just a fabrication by those out to destroy the idea out of cowardice. Many MGTOWs have kids, have been married and divorced, or have had many relationships of one kind of another. If you never have a relationship, or at least try to, there is not much chance that you’ll ever encounter the “red pill” situations. It’s another case of using shaming language to try to force everyone to conform, and MGTOWs don’t give a flying f~~~ about the insults because they know them for what they are, pathetic bulls~~~ from angry feminists and the castrated men who are their slaves.
Of course, that’s just my take. Your mileage may vary."I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin
Welcome! The delusion society conditions us into believing is nothing but excess baggage. Congratulations on throwing it away.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Quite often we see new faces here on this site welcome.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Anonymous29Hmmm. . . ok.
Anonymous26@theronius +1 on your post
@spacemonkey…. welcome aboard!
I find myself thinking that I could believe what “feminism” stands for in equality if it was called something else like “humanism”. I believe from it’s inception however that the intent was for it to favor women into politics, equal pay, and in the courts (especially when it comes to legally raping men through their wallets).
Because as we all know… the left wing media has always seen society’s problems are being the evil intentions and design of rich white men and their secret ancient clubs in fortresses.
So Spacemonkey, other than those large black ink tattoos…. we’re the Thailand chicks f~~~able at least? I don’t mind a few small tats on a girl, but the typical tramp stamp or tit stamp automatically ruins it for me.
Anonymous42The forest fire of manly declarations continue to spread under the winds of feminism.
It looks like the modern female with all the might of law and disorder have locked themselves in a hay barn, and have dropped the kerosene lamp that guided them into this dreadful situation.
I’m stocking up on marshmallows, gram crackers, and chocolate bars!
Nothing’s better than smores a barn fire!Welcome to MGTOW Spacemonkey, at least you’re in a position to nuke it from orbit! I have my time machine for a rapid escape, so go ahead, bombs away!
Anonymous0I am not a misogynist, I am not a homosexual, I have had my share of women and was married once ( and yes, I divorced her ). I am a feminist in that I believe men and women should be treated equally under the law, unfortunately in too many instances the law has swung in favour of women. I do not believe women are evil, although some do evil things. I have had my share of knocks but then again I have given as good as I got.
Welcome Brother??
Hmmm. . . ok.
I will go further than what DRS_au said and say that around here I would not identify myself as a feminist (“in that” anything)
Tremendous intro SpaceMonkey. Particularly the bit about finding an ANTI-mgtow article at R.O.K and having the capacity to make up your own mind.
Coincidentally, before our arrival and opening our doors here….. I was a favorite and popular commenter over there – for about a year. My comments and contribution thumbed up hundreds of times. Even after I broke one of their strictest rules – ( “responding to a female will get you immediately banned” ) — I accepted I would be banned for it….. but they did not.
Ho boy, were they surprised and humiliated after publishing that piece of s~~~ that mgtow.com was conceptualized and co-created by someone they respected and admired. After we made it known, they swallowed their own words, and THEN they banned. There was no reason to write that smear campaign against us – especially after we offered our assistance with their website when they placed an ad looking for help. It’s just the same tired and predictable dialogue which not even the author believes but needs to convince himself of. He will kick other men if means getting ANY whiff of ANY female at all. He is thirstier than any MGHOW.
I know your intro isn’t about me, but how you arrived here is exactly how a man should arrive here. By making up his own mind and for no other reason. Congratulations on possessing the clarity for that.
A most sincere welcome to MGTOW and the Forums.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Welcome to the real world.
Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.
I am a feminist in that I believe men and women should be treated equally under the law
you aren’t a feminist.
Feminists true goal is the absolute dominance of women over men.
God or whatever help you if you haven’t realized this yet.Thanks for the welcome. Especially keymaster, those second rate casanovas at ROK are purple pill at best.
For those in doubt, peace can not be achieved through hate and true hapiness can’t be found without peace. Put your hate aside and find true peace in yourself. Are we men or are we boys?
Shift70.
Thai whores are skanky disease ridden money grabbing c~~~s who will steal your walet as soon as look at you and are a disgrace to the oldest profesion. I have known several poor sods who have hooked up to Thai tail and f~~~ me have they paid dearly for it. Avoid.The chicks with bad tats are all western and mostly blonde, which explains a lot. I’m sure they will bring out a barbie doll with a full sleave tat in time for next christmas.
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
Hey SpaceMonkey, welcome aboard! & good catch on the ROK article.
I thought it was funny that, as an alleged bastion of masculinity, ROK decries womens’ shaming tactics. But at the same time uses the same to talk smack about about MGTOWs. It appears both sides of that coin have some insecurities about their life choices. Ah well.
Whereabouts in Thailand are you? And are you just visiting, or living/working there?
I ask because i’m looking at recommendations for places to visit in Asia (as a tourist now, to retire in ~10 years), and while i’ve traveled extensively through Central/South America & Europe, i’ve yet to set foot in APAC. Low cost of living, nice beaches, good surfing are all pluses in my book. And if there’s a good latin dance scene that’d be even better!
Hi MattNYC and thanks for the welcome.
I’m in koh samui at the moment but have been traveling round. Thailand has changed so much since I was last here and not for the better. It’s certainly not the value for money destination it was and if you want a western life style it will likely cost you more than staying at home. I’d recomend central america, I’ve heard good things about the surf scene in Costa Rica.
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
welcome brotha!
great intro…..that’s a very interesting way of becoming MGTOW and discovering the red pill.
How did I find myself here on MGTOW.com? A happy accident, I guess.
this happy accident will change your life in a positive way.
cheersMGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
Personally speaking I have been lucky. I have never been married, have no kids and have not had any particularly abusive or unpleasant female relationships…..
The difference is that I was choosy in my relationships with women because I always knew after the first couple of relationships that nothing lasts forever and it’s pointless rushing into a relationship which will be great for the first few months or years, and sheer bloody hell for the last ones.
Like you OP, I always figured it would be nice to have a female companion to share my adventures. I travel a lot, enjoy the good life and would probably be what most women say they’re looking for….. if need be I can work hard and earn a lot of money, though since I’m mostly alone I don’t bother and earn just enough to allow me time for my hobbies of writing and playing guitar.
Basically I’ve realised women just aren’t good enough. They just don’t make the grade. They’re not really interested in the topics that I enjoy (namely anything genuinely creative and requiring analytical intelligence, women are followers and only adopt concepts and ideas that someone has already thought about and pre-approved for them), and when it comes to travelling, having adventures or even trying to find a good restaurant, it just becomes a chore, a pain and an argument.
Everything nice you try to do becomes a source of disupte and drama and now sadly I realise, that I just have a better time doing things on my own..
I wish this wasn’t the case but it’s just how women were put together I guess…..
Like I say, I have no personal issues with them and have been lucky in the relatively few loving relationships I’ve had………… but I always looked for love and happy to say I got it….. but it never lasts…..and soon the nagging and drama starts…… now I just know that getting on the road is a journey to nowhere…..
So I guess I’m a lucky MGTOW……I didn’t get burned, I just figured it out before it got that far.
Welcome SpaceMonkey !
Enjoy the unfiltered chaos of life.
You clearly come across as a genuine and wise newcomer, Spacemonkey so in that best sense welcome on board, dude.
Also your very wiggly way of how you have eventually found us is one of the most extraordinary ones that I’ve personally read in terms of intros for a while.
Good on you man. Have a great time in here…
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
@spacemonkey Great to have an individual such as yourself with us, brother!
"Unus quisque magnas virtutes quae ad tentationem ei non extrahunt, quae habeat negligentes cultum" - One great mistake is to try to extract from each person virtues which he does not possess, neglecting the cultivation of those which he does have. - Hadrian
Good evening gentlemen, or perhaps good morning or good day to you depending on your time zone.
I would like to formally introduce myself to you other fine gentleman of MGTOW by starting off with a simple hello and thank you.
The hello explains itself.
The thank you is for this site, the sense of empowerment you all as a whole have made me realize about myself, and lastly for your contributions on this site that have given me hope and inspiration.
I could now sit here and moan how so many women have wronged me, hence me being here. But you already know that. We’ve all been there to some degree. So rather, I would like to say something more positive. And for me that’s the model army I’m now going to paint, and the writing I want to work on once again, now I am female free.
Yes, you may laugh at my model army, as so many women have done before. But I don’t care anymore. I’m doing what makes me happy, for me, and no one else. That for me, is the very essence of true MGTOW.Regards fellow MGTOW,
The Laughing Heart.
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