PJTV: The Real Reasons Why Men Are Shunning Marriage

[YinmarenParticipant 27]

ETA: Well, that link didn’t work. Try this new one.

I’m watching this now. An interesting conversation about marriage from libertarian/conservative types. I’m about 10 minutes in and it’s a great listen so far.

[Anonymous 1]

Thank you for sharing the video with us.  I just finished watching it.  I hope this discussion gets people talking and starting doing something about it.  We need more of this type of topic.  Once again, thank you.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Great video!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[MGTOWAviParticipant 4]

Thanks for sharing the video.

They had the b~~~~ to say that the odds are stacked against Men in marriage something the mainstream media never mentions.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Why aren’t men getting married? Well I can speak for myself here:

1) risk of divorce to reward of marriage ratio is far too high
2) don’t trust females to be committed to me, especially if things turn bad
3) don’t need to be married to have a fulfilling life
4) females desire for marriage vs. solid relationships makes me suspicious of their motives
5) yet to find a female to partner with who I believe would significantly improve the quality of my life
6) not interested in inviting a female or the law and courts into my home
7) wedding ceremony itself would be a waste of resources
8) don’t want to give up my freedom to live the way I want
9) almost certainly could not be sexually exclusive to just one female for the rest of my life
10) just don’t see the point in it for me… there are other pursuits I care about more

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

1) risk of divorce to reward of marriage ratio is far too high

check
2) don’t trust females to be committed to me, especially if things turn bad

check
3) don’t need to be married to have a fulfilling life

check
4) females desire for marriage vs. solid relationships makes me suspicious of their motives

double check
5) yet to find a female to partner with who I believe would significantly improve the quality of my life

check
6) not interested in inviting a female or the law and courts into my home

triple check
7) wedding ceremony itself would be a waste of resources

very check
8) don’t want to give up my freedom to live the way I want

true story
9) almost certainly could not be sexually exclusive to just one female for the rest of my life

nor would want to be
10) just don’t see the point in it for me… there are other pursuits I care about more

checkmate

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[dididParticipant 9]

Agree …

and I want to say something too

In fact. I believe the idea of marriage it was at first an territorial reason for alpha men to mark their territory. They choice territory (house), and they fill up that with a female they choice. Only women who corespond of HIS RULE were deserve to belong to him. and these women were respected for their virtues only ..by him and by community. That was in ancient times. But woman nature is …so fun sometimes..that … idea of marriage from a place of peace, understanding and happiness..was transformed by a place where she is in power, and unfortunately….”modern society” name that ..feminism..or equal rights for women. In fact..The purpose of family is a woman who complete a man. Not a black hole (what most of women do) who use idea of marriage or family or house to enslave mens

[dididParticipant 9]

didid wrote:

Agree … and I want to say something too In fact. I believe the idea of marriage it was at first an territorial reason for alpha men to mark their territory. They choice territory (house), and they fill up that with a female they choice. Only women who corespond of HIS RULE were deserve to belong to him. and these women were respected for their virtues only ..by him and by community. That was in ancient times. But woman nature is …so fun sometimes..that … idea of marriage from a place of peace, understanding and happiness..was transformed by a place where she is in power, and unfortunately….”modern society” name that ..feminism..or equal rights for women. In fact..The purpose of family is a woman who complete a man. Not a black hole (what most of women do) who use idea of marriage or family or house to enslave mens

I need to make an specification ……The purpose of family is a woman who complete a man. And they really enjoy each other…..not complete is good word(my English is not my best point) but idea is to really enjoy not to be for him or him for her. JUST ENJOY…without that is just control and..domination

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

It is easy to determine that marriage is not to a man’s advantage.  It is possible to do all of the things that one can do while unmarried.  The monopoly on sex disadvantages men who are innately polygamous.  The penalties from dissolving the marriage advantage females are innately hypergamous.   Q.E.D.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

They’re starting to recognize there is a big problem, but they just don’t get it, no-one in that group identified female nature, their duplicitous strategy based on hypergamy.  Their privileged, and spoilt attitudes, narcissism and sociopathic behavior.  The one sided nature of divorce, makes the slim chance of a “successful marriage” just not worth it.  What is a “successful marriage”?  What does a man get for becoming the wage slave to  a privileged spoilt, narcissist?

No they need to examine a whole lot further, just what it is that a man risks, in order to pay for the privilege, to not have sex with other women.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[girandhopperParticipant 5]

Has anybody watched on you tube – the truth about Robin Williams – by Stefan Molyneux ?

He suggests that Williams problems started as a child by his vile selfish mother’s neglect

so to get her love and attention he learns to to be funny which gains her attention, Molyneux at about the 30th minute goes on to explain that his two marriages and claim by a woman that he gave her the clap, which he didn’t dispute. Costs him an estimated $35 Million.

Molyneux who is very articulate becomes very angry and states, these women quantify by saying that they were so unhappy that their unhappyness had a value of $10 Million !!!

Also stating that women who do this are commiting theft, if they had a job and said to their boss your job sucks so you can stick it but by the way you will still need to pay at least as much as I’m earning if not more. an employer could say f~~~ off but an ex husband can’t.

 

Amazing and tragic example of how females destroyed a genius…

 

 

 

[freeatlastParticipant 0]

Ive studied relationships and people in general for years.  The United States family law court meat grinder system is nothing but an unequal biased against the husband of the  divorcing couple.  I was married for almost 20 years been to court many times.  I personally witnessed alot of judges decisions with no doubt the favor always going to the ex-wife.  Women want equal , this is bulls~~~ to the core!!  I just do not come out with a decision based on feeling and emotion its solely based on facts.  Any young man gets married today is blinded by one thing his feelings for who he is marrying.  Not realizing that for her marriage to her is just a business .  I have friends now that are much younger than myself and I begged them not to get caught up too deep in it with out really seeing it for what it is.  Now they wished they would have listened.  They noticed the change when the marriage certificate was signed.  It went from alot of sex to maybe once a week.  I said starting to feel youve been deceitfully manipulated, just wait it gets better.  One day you’ll realize what I told you is the truth!!!  

[freeatlastParticipant 0]

This is so spot on true too.  Neglect from a narcissistic mother to her baby from one to three years old and continual pushing away of the child when  the child has to compete with others to get affirmed attention.  How do they do this?  By learning how to ACT.  Alot of women have traits of the disorder themselves and some men too.   On an extreme level these people get depressed when they are no longer able to receive attention from being in the limelight or as they call it “being the center of attention”.  People with this disorder is called Histrionic personality Disorder and what follows it is Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  These women can be of a sexual nature trying to dominate and control every man for the sole purpose of attention and attention only.  They literally feel the emotions off of the person they are with to be able to feel something because of an internal empty self. Loof it up on the internet and its explained in detail.

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