Percentage of 1st Dates That Lead to 2nd

[QuellParticipant 2538]

I have since quit dating due to the abysmal nature of women these days. For both men and women it seems that both have to go on many many dates to have the possibility of finding even something small. Hence why pump and dump is popular.

I was curious to know what the percentage of 1st dates that actually make it to a second. Came across a Quora article:

This old landwhale described how she went on 56 dates in six months which equates to 9.3 dates per month or roughly 2.3 each week.

This woman isn’t even remotely attractive. Doing a quick Google Search found that she is actually quite older, uses old pictures from her linkedin and has has 6 dogs. (I guess it’s better than the crazy cat lady)

This is why marriage stats have gone down the crapper when even this old broad has hundreds of SIMPS at her beck and call. The Wall you might say gets them all… however this woman is proof that women will always have a choice no matter how old. Any post wall woman may not be able to get married as easily but she will ALWAYS have a string of blue pill gentlemen callers because of the internet.

As a younger man I never understood the concept of monogamy which was drilled into us through Religion. Now I’m older I see why that concept is actually quite beneficial for society as a whole albeit not practical.

If a man and woman only have sex with each other in a marriage (1 sexual partner for life) they will only deeply bond with that person and create a stronger marriage in the beginning. Multiple sexual partners only cheapens whatever attempt religion tried to instill of couple bonding. Throw in societal shame of divorce and you have traditional male/female roles in society.

Whole Article Here

Last time I was keeping records, I had roughly 56 first dates in six months. Allow maybe 20% went to 2 dates, 5 or 6 to three, and one keeper.

It’s going to be the 80/20 rule all over, only part of the total set is the number of contacts made that don’t even lead to dates.

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

Let the simps fight over her.

I’ve got better things to do than clean up after 7 dogs.

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

The problem is women refuse to date men who are reasonably close to their own sexual market value (SMV). They will refuse to date someone who isn’t at least 2-3 points higher than her on the SMV scale. So if the woman is a 7/10, she will only date a 9+, etc.

So the man, who is easily 2-3 points higher than, has no real reason to commit to her, or even date her a second time. He will pump and dump her, or move on to the next if she doesn’t put out. The only way she will see him again is if it is for a casual meetup.

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

I think it’s only a “problem” for a man trying to date, live with, or marry a woman.

For any man who wants to invite false sexual assault allegations, STDs, general hypergamy and infidelity, and probable divorce rape into his life, I could see how this would pose a “problem”!

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22507]

I am well out of high school but my tastes in what i consider attractive is still young looking, fertile women. My mental age tastes are still for what I was originally turned on for. Young healthy vibrant female bodies.

Probably wont ever change. I have no desire to actually be with any of them because baggage, stds, immaturity, selfishness, looking at me as a disposable atm sperm bank. But when I need to release, I am not thinking of women my own age.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[OldBillParticipant]

Quell wrote:

… even this old broad has hundreds of SIMPS at her beck and call.

That’s why I believe OKStupid’s new message system is going to fail dramatically.

We’ve all seen the various studies about the wildly different number of dating site messages each sex gets. They group by orders of magnitude:

High SMV women get thousands of messages.
Middle to low SMV women get hundreds of messages.
High SMV men get tens of messages.
All other men get one message.

Women get all those messages, plus the validation that comes with them, by doing nothing and that’s why OKStupid’s new system will fail.

Under the new system, women will only see those messages from those men whose profiles they have visited and liked. For that high SMV to get thousands of messages, she’ll first have to visit thousands of profiles and no woman is going to put in that kind of work.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 12]

When I was still trying (although very halfheartedly) I found that women expected instant chemistry or they were out. This was even for women I chatted to for days or even weeks in advance of meeting.

Chemistry and connection takes time. That is why it is failing so often now.

On the odd occasion they felt that instant chemistry (Oddly I never did) they would be very cozy and even made out or more with me on a first meet.

Otherwise we would chat, I would get lumped with the bill and then I would be told they weren’t interested or I would get an email/text later saying same.

Women get inundated with messages on these sites. Men need to be more selective about who they message rather than just the usual copy and paste to every woman on the site. Better still. Don’t bother at all.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

The games women play. (I’m shaking my head)

Women want something that doesn’t exist.
They insist on dating tall, muscular, educated men with obscene amounts of money. Yet most of them are not in shape. Most of them are in debt and spend too much money. Most of them are not nice people and are somewhat superficial.
All they bring to the table is vagina.

Yet these women are pursued by legions of blue pilled manginas who would grovel at their feet for a chance to score. I don’t get it.

Once I was professionally employed, I was accosted by a legion of skanks who a few years earlier would not give me the time of day.

I don’t put a lot of stock in vagina anymore. It takes too much time and costs too much money.
Porn/fleshlight is much more cost-effective and my fleshlight hasn’t filed charges against me yet.

Women can go on a zillion dates. The men she is looking for don’t want to date her. Enjoy your manginas sweetie.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Quell wrote:

This old landwhale described how she went on 56 dates in six months which equates to 9.3 dates per month or roughly 2.3 each week.

That’s 56 first dates.

Sure a lot of thirsty men are giving her a chance with a first date, and then sticking it out for the whole ordeal out of politeness, but out of 56 men, not a single one of them was buying or even coming back for seconds.

This is why marriage stats have gone down the crapper when even this old broad has hundreds of SIMPS at her beck and call.

Only 56, not hundreds. And they may have been at her beck for a single date, but ain’t none of them called after.

Handsome Vic wrote:

Let the simps fight over her.

But they’re not. See above.

[PhilandryParticipant 538]

I don”t understand this as I have never persued any of the women I have associated with.
I have also been monk for ten to fifteen years (who’s counting?).
What I really don’t understand is the significance of this matter.
Is it actually important?
You only have to hold out some cash or the online equivalent and they will flock to you.
Game over.

Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Handsome Vic wrote:

Let the simps fight over her.

I’ve got better things to do than clean up after 7 dogs.

You don’t like sloppy seconds?

xanthine wrote:

So if the woman is a 7/10, she will only date a 9+, etc.

You can be an instant ten by printing a business card with the title of Radiologist, or some other doctor. Learn a little of the lingo, and but some really nice shoes. That’s what the guys in Florida do.

Handsome Vic wrote:

I think it’s only a “problem” for a man trying to date, live with, or marry a woman.

For any man who wants to invite false sexual assault allegations, STDs, general hypergamy and infidelity, and probable divorce rape into his life, I could see how this would pose a “problem”!

Excellent point.

OldBill wrote:

All other men get one message.

Yeah, the welcome message from the site when they register.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Quell wrote:

This is why marriage stats have gone down the crapper when even this old broad has hundreds of SIMPS at her beck and call. The Wall you might say gets them all… however this woman is proof that women will always have a choice no matter how old. Any post wall woman may not be able to get married as easily but she will ALWAYS have a string of blue pill gentlemen callers because of the internet.

I just started a thread on precisely this topic. At the very least, it’s of some consolation to know other men both understand this and are experiencing it. But, it’s too little consolation. The internet has given the attention-whoring nature of women too much. Their ego knows no bounds now, and they have completely unrealistic expectations of what they “deserve”. Sickening.

Resident cynic.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

Most guys are raised to believe that getting pussy is the most important thing there is about being a man. And society reinforces that message through media and social customs. A “good” man pursues and courts the woman he want to have sex with, and when he finally get it, well, he’s a manly man. Until men learn to stop valuing this “concept” of vagina and stop misunderstanding that his worth and self esteem as a man…..is somehow tied up with obtaining sex, your basic average cow like this woman, will have plenty of suitors.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[PhilandryParticipant 538]

She may have many suitors but they are low grade wimps and beggars and beneath her.
She will die surrounded by hungry cats.

Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Quell wrote:

I was curious to know what the percentage of 1st dates that actually make it to a second.

If she asks me out again, and pays again, I might say yes.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Branched offParticipant 10926]

That’s a huge investment of time and money in all those wasted dates! I just can’t imagine myself being bothered enough to go through that. There has to be a better way for her to screen her potential suitors first?

Or maybe women just like the attention but the scary thought is that for every one of those dates some guy invested time and money into her.

If I had been on half that many first dates in a life time I would consider myself wasting my life. If you don’t like her that much why bother asking her out? Is it for some misguided self esteem thing -I am high value because I go on dates- or is it because you are a real pussy beggar?

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[johny45674Participant 231]

7 Dogs, I see what you did there LMFAO 🤣

I'm a one man guy in the morning, the same in the after noon. A one man guy when the sun goes down, I whistle me a one man tune. I'm a one man guy, one man guy, and the one man is me. 👍🏼Thanks Loudon Wainwright for the wise words

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Gross.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

With the ever growing number of men checking out of society, the few left in blue pill land can be very very picky about what each is willing to put up with.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[SolidParticipant 7520]

OldBill wrote:

Under the new system, women will only see those messages from those men whose profiles they have visited and liked. For that high SMV to get thousands of messages, she’ll first have to visit thousands of profiles and no woman is going to put in that kind of work.

Women want everything, until they have to do something to get it.

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