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Hi broz. How are ya doing?
Let’s talk about that video. The vid is pretty long but I will try to sum it up quickly: We are running out of carbon-based fuel and most “renewable energy” won’t help. The video seems like a typical liberal environmental video at first … but then you get to the end and you realize that the vid is preparing you for an unavoidable catastrophe. The world could go backwards in terms of technology in the future. We might even experience a new stone age.
In other words, this might not even be a catastrophe. It might be good for us.
Let’s face it. Feminism needs technology in order to survive. That’s why feminism didn’t exist until recently. Women have been freed by the washer, the dryer, the freezer and the birth control pill. Women can also use handguns to defend themselves. If technology regresses then feminism will regress as well.
“The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.”
– Industrial Society and its FutureOverall, I like it when people on the internet talk about the incoming collapse of modern civilization. I, however, don’t like it when people claim that this will lead to the extinction of humanity. Modern science teaches us that humans existed 190,000 years before the first civilizations. Back in those days, men were men and women were women. Men hunted. Women picked vegetables. All in all, not a bad system.
Peak oil? Collapse of civilization? Meh. I’ll do a merry jig as it all goes up in smoke. I disagree with the people who say that the West will collapse from all the immigration but I think that an oil catastrophe is believable … and it will be the best thing to happen to men in a long time. Bring on the fall!
MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot
Agreed. I give this a lot of thought from times.
Monogamy did work somewhat well back then because women relied on us. And if they acted up…They paid f~~~ing dearly.
Brother, we need to stick together.
The feminists had better start working on renewable energy if they want to achieve their ends.
If the renewable energy movement fails then feminism will fail. Feminists need the current technological power structure. Without it, feminism can’t exist.
If we run out of oil and don’t find an alternative then society will crumble. Our descendants will be wandering through a wasteland while dealing with superstorms that came from our global warming. Only the strong will survive and humanity will begin anew.
Hopefully they won’t f~~~ everything up with unnatural feminism.
MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot
Anonymous24As oil dries up in the future, it will indeed not be good for man as war will continue to rise… Certainly the men of countries in the Mid East who did no harm to their neighbors and got invaded recently did not fare well, and in the future there will just be more and more of it as the Elites battle for oil fields… Expect more wars… If I can recall from past and present wars, they are never good for men.
Anonymous54@stealthy. Your flesh light could wind up in the smithsonian!
Anonymous54I have always said feminism is the result of men inventing things to make there lives easier. Big mistake.We thought they would love us more cause we gave them…washing machines,freezers,,dish washers,power steering,cell phones face book… it it turns out there ungrateful C~~~s. Imagine that.
I have a pal from Russia. His Dad works on super deep wells where the earth converges.
Massive amounts of oil there he said.
If you guys learn to garden and cook you will be well and have more cash. Restaurants soak us.
I was just watering a bed of basil and swiss chard.
Man adapts. Fish farming in the ocean will grow.
Agreed,our ‘dirty oil’ here in Canada too,we have the third largest deposits in the world.Only thing is to be profitable we need oil @ 70/barrel to get it out of the Tar Sands,while it only takes the Saudi’s around $4/barrel to pump theirs out.
Hunting is a good survival skill to know as well.
Move out of the big cities if you can,they’ll only get worse.
Small town or country living is where it’s at,both for
MGTOW and survivalists alike.Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
We are running out of carbon-based fuel and most “renewable energy” won’t help.
I did the calculation back around 2009. Depending on whose figures you believe, we have between 800 Billion and 1.2 Trillion barrels of reachable oil (or proven reserves). Call it 1.0 trillion to split the difference.
Worldwide humans consume ~89 million barrels of oil…..PER DAY.
Do the math: 1.0 Trillion barrels divided by 89 million works out to 11,236 days of oil left in our proven reserves, or 30.7 years.
Remember, this was back in 2009, so we may be down to 25 years.
Now also bear in mind that OPEC decides how much oil it’s members are allowed to sell every year based on their total proven reserves. So the “total proven reserves” above is highly dependent (80%) on the idea that the member nations would NEVER lie about their proven reserves in order to be allowed to sell more oil.
Nope never. Unpossible. I’m sure the thought never crossed their minds.
I’m not hearing about a bunch of new oil being discovered anywhere. Even that “huge” undersea discovery a couple years back, when you do the math, would barely supply the US for 6 months, never mind the rest of the world.
If I’m missing any big pieces – please do speak up, but barring any massive new discoveries in energy, it looks like we’re on about a 25 year clock.
Oh, and those numbers assume static consumption, but I think we all know consumption only continues to rise due to population increase, development, etc.
Have to givd that thing a name.
Manuela? 😉
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
The death of feminism does not necessarily lead to the liberation of man. I believe a doomsday scenario would bring the world right back to the other gynocentricism, traditionalism. Marriage 1.0 would replace marriage 2.0. That may be an improvement, but marriage has always been about benefiting the women more so than the man.
Just keep on having fun and going your own way. As the hateful ideology of feminism crumbles, our personal lives and activity on the manosphere will help show other men the way. Technology will help us compete with the influence of traditionalism.
To me, the question is whether technology will advance faster than our needs. We had ‘peak oil’ once, and got past it. That was ‘peak whale oil’. Then we discovered crude oil. First only surface oil. Then we drilled for it. Initially the light fractions such as gasoline, were simply burned away — until the internal combustion engine, which consumed gasoline. I think we’ll eventually figure out how to make microbes produce plant oils (seed oils) efficiently, but it may be a long time for the breakthroughs. The research will be driven ultimately, by ever higher prices for crude oil. That will also encourage increased efficiency — lighter vehicles, more carpooling, and the public accepting nuclear power — and exploitation of the vast reserves of ‘unconventional oil’ — fracking, tar sends, coal liquefaction. Keep in mind we have hundreds of years of coal that can be liquefied into gasoline. The energy for this can be derived from nuclear fission. And nuclear fission can produce vast amounts of hydrogen through hydrolysis of water. So the end of cheap crude oil, is not the end of advanced civilization, necessarily. Harnessing of coal, gas, and oil is one of the principal reasons for strong economic growth for the last century and a half, though.
Total proven reserves? Unconventional reserves — tar sands, coal liquefaction, etc — amount to a MULTIPLE of conventional liquid crude oil reserves. How much, depends on selling price, of course, because it is more expensive to extract. We’ve already seen what high prices do to drive up domestic production through fracking. So it isn’t a technology problem that must be solved even in my lifetime.
I think it will be good for tradcons and blue pills. If we regress bacck to the old days then there will be more pressure to go marry some hag and take care of her. The family unit is so destroyed, I like the pick up culture where you can go out and get pussy if you want it, but if you don’t society doesn’t begrudge you as much as they would have in the 1950s
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
Is “Peak Oil” still a thing? I thought that whole idea was tossed out already.
The fear (or in some cases, excitement) seems to be that some day in the not too distant future, all the world’s oil wells will run dry and the apparatus of modernity will grind to a halt with there being no more petroleum to keep the machines, power generators and vehicles moving, provide nitrates to factory farms, be used to produce products, etc… some of you guys sound like you’re looking forward to a massive die-off of more than three quarters of the human population that just the nitrates issue will cause. Maybe it will bring the good women back?
You’d think that anyone who believed in peak oil would be scrambling for safe nuclear fusion or something, not talking about whether or not the men who are left after something like that would be better off or worse off for it or whether it is going make women act nice again.
But hey, what’s 3/4 of the world’s population dying if it means you get to be an Alpha, amirite?
Believe me… no matter how it happens, a sudden catastrophic backsliding from our current technological civilization will be bad for EVERYONE. Even the rich people. Seriously, I’d rather live in “poverty” in the United States today working a 9-5 job at Walmart than be King Louis XIV at Versailles.
You wonder why I “support the establishment” as some have put it… it’s because I have some basic understanding of what it would be like to suddenly and violently regress to a point in time where everyone was neck deep in s~~~ and the entire world was desperate to get where we are now… which is exactly how and why we got to where we are now.
Those of you who seem excited by the prospect of throwing it all away make me literally ill and I respectfully suggest that you put your money where your mouth is, drop your keys in a gutter and go live in a shack in the woods for the rest of your life and never come back. Hell, try even living with the Amish for a month and then tell me how much modern society sucks. It ain’t perfect by any means and it could be a hell of a lot better, but it ain’t going to get better by hoping for it to get a hell of a lot worse.
We already passed “Peak Oil” a while ago and are in the long decline. What you say! You smokin the wacky weed!
Hear me out. The oil that is being extracted now is divided into types.
Light sweet crude
Heavy Crude
Tar Sands
shale oilTo get the distillates out of it (fuel oil, lubricants, gas, aviation fuel and so on) you have to expend energy (Money). So the final cost of getting the oil out of the ground and into your gas tank is the base price. So if a barrel of light sweet crude is 40.00 a 55 gallon drum, they still have to expend X number of dollars to get it to you. Since light sweet crude can be distilled so easily it leaves a s~~~load of profit to the fuel companies. However in order to distill Tar sands or Shale oil you have to expend a buttload more energy to get the same results. The only way Tar Sands or Shale oil were able to make a profit was if the price of oil was over 80.00 per barrel. The cost to get it out of the ground, distill it and get it delivered was 50.00 to 60.00 dollars.
90% of the new oil discoveries are Heavy crude. Less than 6% of the total crude being sold today is the super profitable light sweet crude.
So back to “peak oil”. Light sweet crude peaked in the 70’s. We are now on the long decline where we use more and more of the s~~~ oil. There is a cut off point. When we reach the point where the energy needed to extract, distill and deliver a barrel oil into its needed products, EXCEEDS the cost of energy in that barrel we will be at the end of the age of oil. Best guess by engineers is we have about 150 years.
As far as good for men. Well I don’t know. I like technology. Its interesting. I figure tech will move slowly into genetic engineering. Give it a 100 years and you would grow your next computer. 🙂
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
There are already alternatives invented like the magnetic engine and Thorium Plasma Battery but the inventions were stolen and the inventors either killed or disappeared in fear for their lives. Here is a good read on this topic found here.
It is a long read but worth it if you want to educate yourself a bit on the inventions taking place including a 525 horse power magnetic engine that Greyhound planned on testing before the plug was pulled by Big Oil and the US Government. A lot of conspiracy theory stuff floating around but there are facts and eyewitness testimonies that these inventions did indeed work. This is just one example in the article there are more in the comments section below there is a lot to take in too much to post here.
Light sweet crude peaked in the 70’s
Thank you for the information.
Does the ongoing decline in availability of light sweet crude oil currently assume that there will be no new sources identified and no cheaper methods of extraction and processing of heavy crude, tar sands and shale in the forseeable future? In other words, does the projection of 150 years until we “run out” of oil simply ignore the possibility of undiscovered oil supplies and technological development, including research into turning carbon dioxide back into fuel through a process of “reverse combustion” similar to photosynthesis?
I only ask because if we’re going to entertain discussion of the return of traditional conservative gender relations resulting from a global economic collapse due to petroleum starvation as well as conspiracy theories about perpetual motion machines, we may as well talk about real science being done around recycling carbon dioxide.
Interesting chat. I have noticed for many years that the Saudis etc are investing in alternate forms of energy so they can control the next form of energy too (or at least not be left behind). It’s one area progressives are
rightcorrect, to push forward and not just keep saying, “oil and coal, oil and coal!” Not that the Saudis are progressive, they’re just not idiots. I am confident men will overcome this next problem the way we have overcome those previously.Went Camping wrote:
Have to give that thing a name.Manuela?
My GOODNESS that was clever. 10 internet points to you, sir! And a cookie.
I think chir stated it pretty well. A couple other points to make.
– Much of the cost of producing oil has to do with initial project costs. In other words, we had start up costs to fracing shale oil. As time goes by, the cost is getting cheaper and cheaper. I don’t know what it’s at now, but the cost barrel doesn’t have to be as high as it used to be in order to make a profit off the more expensive stuff.
– I work in IT, but have worked for a couple O&G companies, so there are a couple things I’ve noticed.. Whenever the executives speak is that they are always watching the market and trying to predict which way things are headed. It’s a cyclical market and the way to success is to better position yourself for the future.
– O&G isn’t evil. They do have concern for their employees. Many of them have worked out in the field and understand the risks and how families are dependent on them. It is really much more family oriented then a lot of other businesses these days.
-O&G companies don’t care about oil, they care about profits and energy is their product. As stated earlier, they watch the markets. If wind energy, solar energy or whatever is looking like it’s going to be profitable, you better believe they will invest in it. In my opinion, as our sources of energy change with the times, it’s not going to be some outside company that gets us off of oil when the time comes, it’s going to be the O&G that lead the way. Yes, the same companies he want to vilify are the ones tree-huggers will be praising as our savior.
Ok. Then do it.
I am with FrankOne, Doc Fenderson and narwhal on this one.
There is no way we will run out of oil suddenly. It will be gradual and the prices will reflect that, giving the market time to switch to alternatives.
The price of (transportable/mobile)energy might go up considerably for a period of time, but it will go back down as soon as economies of scale kick in for the alternatives.Oil based fuels are valuable because they can be transported and pack a lot of energy in a small volume. They are also relatively safe and easy to handle by the average Joe.
When oil based fuels become scarce, there will be replacements for sure, some cheaper than others and some safer than others.– Hydrogen
– bio-fuels (oils, alcohols, gas, wood)
– BatteriesThe answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
Women picked vegetables
Good point, but that was back then, nowadays they fail to bring you a sandwich.
I wonder if they were the ones that learned how to cultivate the plants?!
There´s other resources to worry about than just oil, think of rare earths for example, used in: magnets (neodym), batteries (lanthan), neon tubes, catalytic converters… and so on, it´s in almost everything or used to create another product.
At least but not only for transportation there´s stuff that has been shelved long ago, just to be dug out again:
Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche
@JohnWoods
Batteries are not a source of energy, they can only store energy provided from another source.
One thing to consider is that most sources of energy contain a lot more energy then we actually use. For example, gasoline not only makes the wheels turn, but it also generates a lot of heat. There is also energy loss through friction and other factors. You increase fuel efficiency by reducing the energy lost, and more power to turning the wheels, or capturing lost energy in a fly wheel.
That’s something people don’t get about electric cars. The electricity is produced in a power plant, which may not be good for the environment. Then transmitted over power lines losing about 1/3 of the energy…before it even gets to the car. And of course, disposing of the battery isn’t great for the environment either. Not exactly a huge win.
Ok. Then do it.
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