Pathway to MGTOW Zen- Teach me, Brothers

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

So I recently posted about that girl in the library who I used to be a complete beta for- when I ignored her, she was shocked and I felt awesome.

A few of you pointed out that as time passes, one becomes more indifferent and reaches inner peace, or a zen-like state where you don’t even care anymore.

I’m really interested in learning how I can accelerate this process- I’m constantly avoiding women and when I see one, I purposely look away to ignore them…how do I internalize/reach Zen so I don’t even care?

[The ShrikeParticipant 147]

This book was extremely helpful:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Power-Now-Spiritual-Enlightenment/dp/1577314808

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

There is no quick path. Each man will arrive at peace at different times. I guess the older you are the faster it happens.

All you can do is focus on yourself. Be the best you can be. Feel the calm, the freedom and the ability to go and do anything anywhere.

Now imagine how wonderful that must feel. Then imagine a woman coming and taking all that for herself ….. hell imagine you giving her all that ….. and then she gets the courts to take what’s left from you.

Read the archives about guys that have been eviscerated by the legal system.

That should help ?

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Oneforfreedom wrote:

I’m really interested in learning how I can accelerate this process- I’m constantly avoiding women and when I see one, I purposely look away to ignore them…how do I internalize/reach Zen so I don’t even care?

Each of us have our own perspective & consequently our own path as it were. As for your question, I will share some of myself here in what works for me. Whether it is of benefit for you, is your call, of course.

For myself, it is not about me mentally thinking of avoiding SO I can reach Zen. I do avoid them, TO limit or minimize situations where I may have to break my stride or just come to a complete f~~~ing stop, to have an encounter.

I think of women the same way I think about shady drivers on the highway. If I see someone weaving, driving dangerously, etc., I change lanes, or do what I must to distance myself from them. Especially if I see a female driver on her phone, applying lipstick or whatever. It is an unnecessary risk to be in close proximity to me, so why chance it is my motto?

Of course, I can at times, and have, changed my path to actually put myself closer to a female, if I am wanting to have a possible encounter. (Picking a specific cashier for example). My reasons vary for why I do this, but my point for mentioning it is I recently realized, it just no longer matters to me now. I used to think I had to avoid them so I could ghost and reach Zen.

It dawned on me, that I was spending just as much mental energy trying to “stay out of harm’s way” as I used to spend trying to “chase” after women. Once this hit me, I knew it just wouldn’t fly for me. I just do what I want to do when I feel like doing it…based on ME and not females. After I changed my perspective on myself with this, I reached a new level of indifference and inaction.

It no longer matters to me one way or the other, as long as there is no physical contact that she can try and use as me physically threatening her. It is difficult for me to put it into words, without making this post be even longer, but then again, I do consider this to be a very deep subject & question. I have spent a lot of time since last weekend thinking about this stuff.

In closing, what helps me the most, is to make sure I am using myself as the filter for why I am doing what I am doing, instead of reacting to a female and using her as my reasons for my actions or inactions.

I spent years expending untold amounts of time & energy focused on women.
I now spend all that focusing on myself instead.

This helps me with my Zen

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a quick way. You will just realize it one day. I haven’t yet, but getting close. My strategy is not to avoid women, but to suppress my natural reactions to them. It is painful at first, and you may be very clumsy, but in time, your body adjusts like in any other circumstance. I think of it like going down the stairs to the basement in a new building. Sometimes you hit your head and it hurts like hell, then you always have to look up, sometimes you avoid it just in time and you make some weird moves, but eventually, you can run down those stairs in the dark and you don’t even realize that your brain automatically corrects your posture to avoid the head injury.
Also, keep your mind busy with projects and thoughts.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[hmskl’dParticipant 6419]

Oneforfreedom wrote:

… when I see one, I purposely look away

no need to quickly look away, occasionally return a smile; just think of them as stenciling, background images, wallflowers that decorate the hallways of your chosen path
when you sit at a railroad crossing in your car and wait for a hundred train cars to pass, your see them flash by but you don’t dwell on any single car
when you walk into a room that has images across the wallpaper, you see it just enough to know it’s there .. but no need to rapidly look away
just like walking across the street, you see the stripes showing the crosswalk, you see the green light and the pedestrian walk sign; but as you follow your path and move on they quickly fade into the periphery
see the women during you daily life as colorful background scenery, highly manicured shrubbery, professional landscaping, electronic flashing billboards, sparkling new cars in the parking lot, shiny halogen lights … something to barely notice ..just enough to carefully circumvent and graciously bypass on your personally chosen and richly designed journey

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

That is a very hard subject, my brother… I’ve never thought about it, but since you’ve asked, I will try my best to add my $2c.

First, I keep my mind on the tasks at hand, I keep my focus on my objectives, on my work, so I have little to no time to think about women.

When I start to think about them, I go to MGTOW.com medicine cabinet and take a fix of red pills. Most of the things that you guys post here is enough for me to just keep my focus on my brothers, on the red pills, and to completely forget about women.

Second is that I try to occupy most of my free time with my hobbies, which is gaming, brewing my own beer and learning about metalwork.

Third is, I hang out as much as I can with my friends and my two brothers and father. They always have something to tell me that works as some kind of red pill too, because they always have some s~~~ty thing to say about their girlfriends or wives. That is a big remember why I opted out of “the game”. But nonetheless they are very good company and I have a really good time when I am around them.

Fourth is that I looked at my female coworkers and the females on the streets of my city, and everytime that I find one of those women attractive, I always question myself what other thing they will have for me, except their vaginas. They ALWAYS have nothing more to offer than c~~~. So, they are not worthy of my time.

Fifth was that I looked at every women I met, and found that every single one of them were trying to manipulate me into something, including my family females.

These were the steps that led me to the MGTOW Nirvana, brother… The time necessary to be in there varies from man to man. Some take longer, some take little to no time.

The path to the heaven inside your own mind is a hard path, and only you will speed it up or slow it down.

For me, slowing things down was what helped me the most to truly relax and analyze not only me, but my surroundings as well.

Hope it helps, brother.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[HitmanParticipant]

i chose celibacy for a year when i was 27 till 28 years old..i needed time for myself , to get my s~~~ together..stopped masturbating after 1st month and it got easier and better . rode a bycycle as much as possible ..ate right ..slept well ..no alchohol.. got very fit. started praying , talking to god more accurately, figured out what i wanted in this life i was given..and went after it !..you really are the master of your own destiny..easy to forget in the crazy , busy world..i try to do good things for myself..gifts for me! it’s ok to be selfish..love yourself first !

[NeutronParticipant 321]

When I was 17 I began to break away from organized religion, having grown up in an orthodox Catholic tradition. One of the first books I read that was simple, down-to-earth, and easy to understand was the Vernon Howard classic ‘Mystic Path to Cosmic Power’. Don’t be put off by the hokey title, this book is a gem in spite of being written in the ’60’s

but if I had to name one person who had the greatest impact on my life it would be – hands down – J. Krishnamurti, whom I started to read shortly after Vernon Howard. If I were going to recommend a good introductory book by Krishnamurti to a friend (or MGTOW brother) it would be ‘The First and Last Freedom’. I was fortunate in seeing him in San Francisco the year before he died (in 1985).

Hope this helps and good luck on your journey!

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

Thank you all for sharing; I would respond individually to each of you but the response itself would be too long. Suffice to say, I will be reading the books you suggested, reflecting on what you have written here, and implementing the mental strategies you’ve shared with me. Thank you.

hmskl’d wrote:

no need to quickly look away, occasionally return a smile

I f~~~ed up today, man. I was doing laundry and this girl came in just when I was taking my clothes out of the dryer. And she stood there looking at me. She was skimpily dressed, and I accidentally glanced at her mid-riff.

She was a 12 out of 10, but her clothes looked like the girl’s below:

[Anonymous 5]

“For a man who decides that he is the person that makes the world so shall he be it in his eyes, forever to die in his eyes to make one – to face death with no regrets”

Split right down the center.

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