Other reasons to go my own way.

[DocParticipant]

Since becoming a member of the MGTOW forum I have learned that most of us here appear to have been f~~~ed over by a woman in some way.
Or have become so despondent with the antics etc of women that we distance ourselves.

I am the same, I have walked away and refuse to have anything to do with them now.
But I’m not just talking about women who I would have once entertained possibly having some form of relationship, whether it be sex based or something more meaningful.

No. I am now trying to distance myself as much as possible from as many women as possible because I just don’t like what the vast majority have become.
It’s not all about the way they treat their boyfriends/husbands, but just their attitude to men full stop.

And not just their attitude to Men. Just their f~~~ing attitude.

Most seem to act like they are the most important person on the planet. But they are often sullen, bitter, rude, self entitled, supremely selfish and self indulgent.
I have noticed that these characteristics appear in late adolescence and only start to wane when they are heading toward 70 years of age.
I admit that not all women are like this. I work with one or two in their late 50s who are quite scathing of what women are like in the modern day. I have an elderly neighbour who is the same. She is a lovely old lady and from a different era now.

When I am out and about, no matter where I am – work, town, the shopping malls, I avoid women like the plague. I am discreetly ignoring them and hoping they do the same to me.

It sounds extreme to say this but they are so unfriendly these days it’s safer to simply ignore them all.
I feel bad because I know that can’t all be unfriendly etc but it’s safer to treat them all the same.

Every single day I encounter ignorant, rude, unhappy women of almost all ages.

I’m not even gonna ask where have all the good women gone because I simply don’t care anymore.

I am going to live my life leaving by keeping them at a safe distance.

Anyway. Just my observations today.

Sorry to ramble on.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[JVBParticipant]

Good for you my man !! Carry on carrying on bro.

Peace is > piece.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Keep going.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Doc wrote:

Most seem to act like they are the most important person on the planet. But they are often sullen, bitter, rude, self entitled, supremely selfish and self indulgent.

I have made the same observation myself.

I still catch myself looking at a good-looking woman of all ages then stop myself and think “Whoa! she’s a woman. Underneath those t~~~ and ass is a Medusa waiting to turn your life in to waking nightmare.”

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[DocParticipant]

It’s the only way now. The only way.
To take control and walk away.

I’m not an arrogant man by any standard but if I am adopting a standard it is to view my time and attention as valuable things.
Who I give them to either appreciates them of can f~~~ off.

Women have reliably demonstrated they value neither so commodities now withdrawn completely.

But I will withdraw them from anybody if they don’t respect me.
I don’t mean blind respect. Just the respect I show them. I treat people in the manner I wish to be treated.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[jimbob15217Participant 491]

I am a member of a well-known organization which promotes the recovery of alcoholics and which conducts meetings for that purpose. Since learning of MGTOW and adopting many of the values MGTOW embraces, I’ve reduced my attendance at the meetings in my city which have been — in my opinion — overly feminized. There is a subtle, but unmistakable, quality to such meetings and I prefer to avoid them. If there are other Friends of Bill here, you may identify with my comments. Good wishes to all!

[Anonymous 18]

Glad I am not the only one.

I go to lengths to avoid hearing a woman’s opinion about relationships, sex, marriage etc. I know whatever she has to say goes against my own benefit.

Doc wrote:

It sounds extreme to say this but they are so unfriendly these days it’s safer to simply ignore them all.

It used to annoy me when semi-attractive (at times fatties) would pretend to disqualify you when you are merely interacting on a platonic/necessity basis. Not sure where her entitlement comes from in real life. Online is different and I can see how the army of simps have enabled her to act like a c~~~. IRL I still get taken back when c~~~s be c~~~ing.

For instance, I asked a early 20s girl if she is done with the bench at gym – and she pretended like I asked her out. She didn’t say ‘… but I have a bf’ although gave that vibe. All for a bench. Smh.

Ignoring women backfires because she now wants to figure out why you are indifferent to her.

[Anonymous 13]

Modern woman is a nasty, feral, narcissistic, self entitled c~~~.

THAT is what they are now.

They’re also dangerous as in
THE ONE PHONE CALL.

They are weaponized.

They don’t deserve an ounce of respect or a second look.

They’re so f~~~ing awful that men now have to wear bodycams.

Stay the f~~~ away from their nasty, feral asses.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

I’ve done some thinking about this. Most humans are very short sighted. Thinking of people who win the lottery, child movie stars, people who are successful by luck. They often spend their money as fast as they can get it. It’s not uncommon, I’d say it’s the norm.

Thinking of women. They’re sexual market value matures way sooner than men. Women start around 16 and last til 30 on average. Men, usually don’t start to even be able to compete until around 25-30 and I’d say after 30 is when they’ll reach their prime sexual value.

Being this is the case. Women, they have never known sexual attraction poverty. They’ve had it since hitting puberty. Human nature for them to “believe” it will always be there. Now that’s it’s the norm to go to college, grad school, put off marriage. Well, they’ve been playing with their sexual lottery lot for so long, it’s normal for them to get jaded as well as to “believe” it will be there forever. Then we see the bitterness when it’s gone. Just like we see with a lot of successful people who made it through luck. They get kind of upset, where’s my money. With women, where’s my dick and free meals and handbags.

It’s just human nature.

Thinking of this. A lot of women date older guys, whether that’s relationships or just flings. So they are going out with guys who have already been through the ringer. Well, a guy who’s 35, who has the life experience, he’s not going to go falling in love with an 18 year old, 22 year old, etc.

So then women start having their “bad” experiences with men. That’s what they grow up with. They get to see the BS, sooner than men do and at a quicker rate because all a woman has to do is spread her legs.

They then hit early 20’s, to late 20’s and act the way they do. Now with it being socially acceptable to be a floozy, tinderella, “awe, that’s so cute”, etc. it’s just gone to next level insanity.

We’re never going back to a healthy and sane and trusting monogamous relationships. If they ever did exist.

But I think this has happened before. Thinking of Rome and other cultures of the past. Perhaps there was a reason why early marriage was promoted. Arranged marriages as well. In the idea of not making everything perfect, but keeping this stuff in the dark. If everyone was getting married early on, or having arranged marriages where the family was involved and putting social pressure on the wife to not act out, well perhaps that kept things organized enough to kind of hide these deeper truths.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[DocParticipant]

It’s seems that those in their 20-30s think they are special and I am beneath them. The beta male but now I’m mid forties the women my age are bitter and have hit the wall so they have contempt because I maintain my market value while theirs has gone.
So no woman is worth attention. The young ones think I’m leering even if I glance while the older ones hate me because I got it and they don’t

They are the losers because they squandered their opportunity.
Feminist bulls~~~ – women can have it all. No you f~~~ing can not.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Ever5Participant 1008]

again, they have never known sexual poverty. It’s just like someone who made a bunch of money by luck or in something trendy. They got all this money coming in and think next year and the year after, they’ll be getting the same amount of money. So they get into debt, thinking they’ll pay it off. Next year, the gig is up and they can’t find a gig as good. Bankruptcy.

Same with women. She believes she is special because she’s been treated like she was special since 16 or so, if not earlier. That’s “all she knows”. She doesn’t know anything else. She doesn’t know respect because she doesn’t know what it means to be ignored. That also might be why women get so hot and heavy when you ignore them. it makes them uncomfortable and challenges their “reality”, introduces the idea of poverty. So they then start making a lot of effort to get that attention back, so they can live in their fantasy world, this will never end, etc.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[DocParticipant]

It’s all the f~~~ing messages they pick up from an early age telling them they are special.
They hear the rhetoric saying that men have f~~~ed them over.
That feeds their sense of self entitlement and narcissist.
They believe the other rhetoric saying they can have it all plus they are worth it.
Then as the years pass and they never find mr right and they hit the wall they become bitter and resentful.

By that point the men their age are recovering from being f~~~ed over and know they would never touch the women their age. The wall hits hard.

We are smiling in our single life. They are sad and bitter.

They got what they asked for so back to that old saying BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

I know some men on here don’t want children. That’s fair enough – I respect your decision.

I always wanted kids and am lucky that I have two.
And now I HAVE my children I need never have anything to do with women again.

Matrix – everything you said above is 100% correct.
Plus some.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

Funny that they teach this in Communication class: “Relationship is a paradox. You want to be one yet you still want to be separate”

Knowing this you know that relationship are bound to fail. Love will eventually become friendship at best. Then, the cost benefits analysis kicks in…

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Doc wrote:

It’s all the f~~~ing messages they pick up from an early age telling them they are special.
They hear the rhetoric saying that men have f~~~ed them over.
That feeds their sense of self entitlement and narcissist.
They believe the other rhetoric saying they can have it all plus they are worth it.
Then as the years pass and they never find mr right and they hit the wall they become bitter and resentful.

By that point the men their age are recovering from being f~~~ed over and know they would never touch the women their age. The wall hits hard.

We are smiling in our single life. They are sad and bitter.

They got what they asked for so back to that old saying BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

I know some men on here don’t want children. That’s fair enough – I respect your decision.

I always wanted kids and am lucky that I have two.
And now I HAVE my children I need never have anything to do with women again.

Matrix – everything you said above is 100% correct.
Plus some.

Dowery addressed most of these problems. Every culture on earth had a form of it until Marxist/Femenism.

Now Big Daddy Government guarantees cupcakes solvency. Before this crap; little daddy government, her father guaranteed her solvency.

If cupcake had no father, cupcakes mother f~~~ed up bad. One, indivdual, generation gone.

Now national generations are gone. Cupcakes have chosen envy, instead of accepting a f~~~ up on a global scale.

It is what it is. God bless brothers.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

Jimbob, I’m also a Friend of Bill and completely understand what you mean about meetings that have women; it’s a totally different dynamic. That’s why I too prefer men’s groups; they’re simply more relevant to me.

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

For me, with one caveat, I love to interact with women. One reason is the opportunity to unleash my new found confidence. Specifically, ANY disrespect to me OR OTHERS, is met with controlled condemnatory confrontation. The look on their face or faces is priceless.

However, as stated, my one caveat is if the woman and I are alone. As numerous members here have experienced and reported, when alone, a women may accuse me of some imagined impropriety. And if she should call the authorities, I may be placed in an unjust situation with certain disadvantages. Thanks to this site, I can take advantage of my new found wisdom while not placing my self in harms way.

God bless, Michael

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