Optical disc – 10TB capacity and six-century lifespan Cost?

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Is anyone else p~~~ed about how much storage costs today? I am!

This is cool, but seriously, optical media has not kept up with HDD or even SSD’s. I mean the only thing out there is tape. And you would think it would be somewhat cheaper than a hard drive but no.. Just the media costs more then buying a few drives of the same capacity. That’s not even keeping up with hard drive costs over the long term.

The largest capacity that we can get our hands on today are 8TB tape drives. And out of that your lucky to get that much on one.

Hell HDD’s have fell WELL short of capacity vs solid state with the cost still being almost level with SSD’s when bought in bulk. And Higher reliability to boot in most cases.

So now, we got these optical disks that might actually come out since China is doing it.

Unlike Sony…
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/08/ibm-and-sony-cram-up-to-330tb-into-tiny-tape-cartridge/

Who has this great roadmap.. OF.. VAPOR- where?

I mean the tech is great. BUT WHERE IS IT? We needed this s~~~ like 5 years ago.

And of course, Seagate has a 60TB drive, that just used current tech by using brute force and fancy controllers. But the price.. Around $50,000 bucks. So of course government agencies are going to be the only ones using this really. As it stands, your going to need at least 2 per site, and a 60 TB drive array to back that data up.

Even the newest kid on the block is having a small problem.

Not bad from the specs.

Server farms, and if you ask me Rendering farms are going to be using some of these bad boys to have multiples of these on their rendering workhouses.

And of course we have some stop gaps for now that just all use the same bus and spread the lanes apart as much as they can.

But its seems that so far, there is actually a bottle neck again for storage at least in the server space.

Why all the hype about the post? Well, if you ask me, the rate that computers accelerate in storage show just how much progress or how well we are doing overall as humanity matures.

It’s kind of like the index that the countries that use the most bleach have the best standard of living.

What it seems is going on now is that even these Dual CPU servers are starting to bottle neck and not actually perform at the level of twice as good but more like 1.5 times as good or lower in many cases.

I mean there is a serious bandwidth problem. And there seems to be no real forward thinking of the future. What I mean by this is that right now if I wanted to run 4 GPU’s on my system, I would run into a bottleneck if I wanted to do I/O as well.

For example. Take this card here:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-gtx-2080-release-date-specifications/#performance

It’s going to be here for Christmas next year before mere mortals can get their hands on one. But really, stack 3 of these in a machine, and you got yourself one hell of an 8k gaming rig. And just about whatever you want to do via A.I, etc.

But problem. We are already Bottlenecking for 8k video..

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[bstoffParticipant 4863]

Wow. Who did China steal that tech from?

[WPLParticipant 2390]

Although optical disc media are quite an amazing technology (people don’t generally realize the degree of precision that is needed to get the laser to follow the data track), I don’t trust the projected lifespans for writeable optical media all that much. I’ve had “archival” quality CD-R media become unreadable on the SAME drive that was used to write them within 3 months (stored in their jewel cases, at room temperature and normal humidity levels, not exposed to direct light). There is at least one newer technology that uses an inorganic (mineral-based) data layer, rather than organic dyes — so it “should” last much longer… but like I said, I don’t trust “projections” that much.

[GeraldParticipant 3620]

This is a challenge, and there will be something come from it I expect in the next couple of years to reduce both cost and density requirements again… about 5 years ago when I worked in the medical field, a storage company started up and had two data centers, one in each half of the US… you paid them a flat fee for putting a radiological image on their servers, and then it was stored forever, with a guaranteed retrieval and speed of retrieval. You had no idea what it was stored on, back end and you didn’t care.

This I think was part of the early trend for cloud storage, and it will continue to drive us to build better, faster storage and make it easily available. The amount of data generated daily now is staggering, and storage has to find a way to keep up. Or else we need to find a more effective purge methodology to allow us to re-use storage…

I’m more bandwidth focused (I’m in the network side) than storage, but storage will catch up, go through another growth spurt and then fall behind again, it is all cyclical. Who knows, maybe there will be a way to write data to atoms at some point…

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[AttonParticipant]

A quad gpu system would suck electrical energy like no tomorrow.

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