Oppresion of women or brainwashing?

[NoobrzorParticipant 1]

Greetings

 

I had stumbled upon the MGTOW term and found this community. I had been pondering about what MGTOW entails and and had questions popped into my head. And it’s pretty simple, also I’m not trying to insult anybody.

George Carlin, the late comedian, said that macho impulses and male cliches, greed, power-hunger and egotism is causing what I deem as the highest crime and that is pollution of Earth. But this question isn’t about ecology, it’s about whether am I just brainwashed, or maybe male independency isn’t that perfect.

 

I am trying to strive to human beings as equal. I am opposed to oppresion of both genders. True, from what I’d witnessed, though not by first hand experience as I lack interest in pursuing relationships ever since my teenage years, indeed in nowadays there’s oppresion of men, and it’s bad.

 

But how about the past? Had not wars been fought and started by men? Had not men been in charge for a long, long time? And nowadays are still – the most rich, powerful people are all men. Tops of corporations that flooded countless miles of water with oil spilled from tankers, are owners of that not men?

How about women not being protected from public rape in any way (grossly overestimating) in Muslim countries? How about 18-20th century America when (i think) beating women was completely acceptable? I do know what’s happening nowadays is simply the polar opposite of the problem, but I mention it as I think turning back into that old way isn’t proper.

 

I wish just to hear input on that. My personal thought to the question “What would MGTOW members say?” would be Social Conditioning in a chain o:
Women manipulating through sexuality->Desiring men with resources->Men who are greedy and in power can afford a lot of pussy->Men not getting pussy want getting pussy so they become greedy and powerhungry. And since wars are all about competing over resources this line of thinking works. What’s more, modern, sociopathic business focused on profiting as absolutely highest virtue just for the same reason – conditioned to get pussy?

 

I think anybody thinking he is superior in any way is very mistaken, and the line of thinking presented above is quite making me think that men are just corrupted by women, and all fault supposedly gets vanished from their shoulders.

 

Any thoughts on that, fellow men? I am not interested in validation, mind you, I am trying to stay away from getting biased and jaded, and further down the round self important self righteous and a smartass.  I watched too much Fight Club, and I believe any human is but a dust, regardless of gender, and thinking of self as superior over any other is just a delusion.

 

I am sorry if I haven’t made myself clear at some points. I am a chaotic person and often forget what I was trying to say, or ask.

Best Regards

[SteveParticipant 462]

Hatuna Matata.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Women can have it all …. EVERYTHING ….. everything men built, made, died for and crippled themselves over.

Let women build the dams, power stations and launch rockets to new worlds.

Let woman take over the whole ball of wax.

Coz we are going our own way.

See how the world turns out for ya 😆

[KeymasterKeymaster]

This bulls~~~ has been moved into the litter box and I will answer you myself before you waste a f~~~ing second of our members valuable time. Your unwillingness and inability to educate yourself is nobody else’s responsibility. We have already provided you with WEEEKS of information, an archive, a mammoth website, countless forums threads to read MONTHS of videos from all over the net, and audios, and if you are too f~~~ing stupid and lazy to begin acquiring answers for yourself beginning from the homepage alone… you are not worthy.

Or very likely female.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I had been pondering about what MGTOW entails and and had questions popped into my head.

Oh really? Do you inconvenience other people whenever random questions “POP” into your head? Jesus Christ. When a man has a question about business, he starts reading Business Insider and The Wall Street Journal. He doesn’t write to them and ask for a personal opinion. You can use the contact form for that. You don’t waltz onto the trading floor.

And it’s pretty simple.

Yes it is. Too bad you don’t get it.

also I’m not trying to insult anybody.

Dont’ flatter yourself. There is nothing you couldn’t possibly TYPE that could insult anyone here.

But how about the past? Had not wars been fought and started by men?

Yes they did! And for every ONE Hitler, 20 million GOOD men fought and died to defeat that son-of-a-single-mother and provide you with the very freedoms and liberties you take for granted every day of your miserable existence…. so you could waste your afternoon at Starbucks and type “I want everyone’s opinion because a question popped into my head” like a thoughtless twitt. If they could have their lives back and witness this s~~~, every single one of them would regret their sacrifices.

Has not your own home and bathroom been built and installed by MEN? The running water installed by men. The electricity you consume. The toilet you s~~~ in. The paper you wipe your worthless ungrateful ass with. All provided by men. The shopping market exists with toilet paper and tampons and bought to your corner by MEN who drove trucks all night across the country. MEN. Aqueducts. Wifi Networks. Free wireless so you can type this S~~~ on the internet created by MEN , on a website created by MEN.

All started by MEN. Are you getting it yet?

And nowadays are still – the most rich, powerful people are all men.

YES it’s called WORK and you wouldn’t know this because you’re too f~~~ing lazy. We already established that.

water with oil spilled from tankers, are owners of that not men?

That’s correct, and without those MEN, you wouldn’t even be able to fill your tank so conveniently whenever you car – built, invented, designed , assembled and produced by MEN to drive on roads all paved by men – runs out of gas… so you could drive yourself to Starbucks also created by MEN. If you can’t even put that together by observing the world around you, then you are intensely stupid and intellectually dishonest. You don’t even DESERVE a response. But I am a MAN, and I have the courtesy and class to respond to you anyway, to answer your f~~~ing stupid questions.

That’s called “being the better MAN”. And that was invented by MEN too.

Amazing these questions “POP” into your head… but the simple answers don’t.

Noobrzor wrote:

I wish just to hear input on that. My personal thought to the question “What would MGTOW members say?”

None of this depends on “what MGTOW would SAY”. That is retarded. Because it’s not a personal opinion.

Everything stated here is a FACT. Open your own f~~~ing eyes.

I am sorry if I haven’t made myself clear at some points.

Oh no, you made yourself PERFECTLY clear. Just beautifully!

I am a chaotic person and often forget what I was trying to say, or ask.

Then you will probably forget the f~~~ing answers too. Won’t you. How convenient. That’s why more MEN head the corporations and make more money than you. Because you can’t even remember your own questions or “what you’re trying to say”. Just classic. Perhaps you now realize how you have no business asking any one to answer your question in the first place.

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The next time a question about MGTOW – specifically – “pops” into your head, you may use the contact form. Don’t sign up again. You have been reduced to spectator. This topic is now a sticky piece of s~~~ in the litter box because it is the smelliest, and reeks of cat s~~~ tuna droppings. It will be the first piece of s~~~ anyone smells when they enter this forum, for anyone who gets it into their dense skulls to attempt this line of questioning again.

We’re BUSY.

And PS. If none of these answers were what you were looking for… you can go here for an answer to your gynocentric bulls~~~. That’s why we put a link to it right at the top above all the forums. Enjoy. That’s your answer right there. And don’t forget who created it as a courtesy. Just for you.

By MEN.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GrumpyParticipant]

+100 KeyMaster

F~~~ing standing ovation here.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

Wow! I love it. A really nice breakdown of a “witless twit”. Saved me some time and I leaned a few things. Thanks keymaster!

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Yes war is started by men because men are the ones in control.  The Jesuits are a group of men who own 40% of the largest corporations and makes 60% of the world’s profits.  These men also run banks.  These men are not married or do they have children however it’s not only men at fault.  The way I see it it’s whole society at fault.   However women do not get a free pass they are just as responsible and we are free to avoid marriage and having children.  This is why cultural marxism exists because people got greedy.  For example many people belonged to unions and and kept squeezing out the profits.  Previous generations of men f~~~ed it up for us and we are paying for the price.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[NoobrzorParticipant 1]

I had been granted the permission to reply, and I thank Keymaster for it.

I had been very wrong and nearsighted, I reply because I feel it’s my duty to admit my mistake. I apologize for asking in the way that I did without gathering more knowledge beforehand.

 

I thank MGTOW community and Keymaster for responses and their time. Thanks again.

Best Regards

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Thank you for your private communications today and for leaving it off the site. I am glad we reached an understanding and perhaps we will reconnect after August 1 when you have given yourself at least that much time to answer your most basic questions with the wealth of information other MGTOW have made available. It’s important that you arrive at your own conclusion. We insist – even if you still reject it wholeheartedly. This site is deliberately created for men who are thrilled to find it the instant they arrive. Not for anyone else.

Thank you and wish you a pleasant evening.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

I love it when KeyMaster rips them a 3rd hole.

 

[Anonymous 29]

Keymaster wrote:

. . . . . . .  not worthy. Or very likely female.

Funny that.

I thought  I  could smell a rodent like aroma after reading just one paragraph. . . . ok . . two.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

I watched too much Fight Club

There is no such thing

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

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