One day at a time.

[Logan6109Participant 32]

I am 52 years old and I retired from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in 2011. I am writing in the hope of bringing awareness to the unjust treatment and persecution of men in this country and to hopefully reach young men so they don’t make the same mistakes I did. My story will demonstrate how there is a separate set of rules for males that seldom apply to females. The names have been changed to protect the guilty.

I married my high school sweetheart Lisa in September of 1986.
Several months after our daughter was born in October of 1987, Lisa was stricken with rheumatoid arthritis and was allegedly unable to work.

Our marriage was not a happy one for me. Not only did I work full
time at a very difficult and thankless job, I also did the majority of the house work and all lawn maintenance as well care for Lisa. I was also very involved in the care and raising of our daughter. The majority of my days off were spent in doctor office waiting rooms. Intimacy was practically
non-existent. The last time we even slept in the same bed together let alone had sex was prior to 2001.

I stayed married to her despite all of this as I felt it was in my
daughters best interest. I did not think it was right to disrupt her
life just because I was not happy. That turned out to be a very bad and costly decision for trying to do the right thing.

We separated in May of 2007 when my daughter became independent. We
were divorced in June 2008.

As part of the divorce agreement and acting upon the advise of my
attorney I had to pay Lisa $625.00 bi-weekly in permanent alimony which was nearly one half of my take home pay. She also received one half of my retirement benefit. She also retained the majority of the marital assets (approximately 80%) and continued living in the marital home until it was placed on the market for sale according to the dissolution of marriage. The land where the marital home was located was given to me by my parents but she ended up getting half its value anyway. In addition, Lisa received and continues to receive over $800.00 a month in Social Security disability. Her monthly income exceeded mine by hundreds of dollars.

Upon the sale of the marital property in March of 2009, a credit card
balance was satisfied in the sum of $10,400.00 which Lisa had charged during our marriage without my knowledge. The remainder of the money was divided evenly between us.

In March of 2009, I hired another attorney to seek a modification of alimony as a substantial change in circumstance had occurred. The attorney informed me that I had a strong case for modification. In July of 2009, My new attorney filed a petition for modification of alimony on my behalf. Opposing counsel promptly had it dismissed as it was improperly filed. My
attorney took no further action until August 10, 2011.

I was forced to the brink of poverty in order to comply with my
alimony obligation and lived in a camper which I purchased after the
divorce for nearly five years. I have been subjected to a transient
lifestyle since the dissolution while Lisa has been permitted to
continue to live as she did during the marriage. At no time during the
marriage did Lisa make any contribution to my retirement. I also had
my job prior to our marriage so it was not like she sacrificed
anything to put me through school. She was not employed after 1987.
Her financial contribution to marriage was minimal at best. Lisa
made no effort to gain employment either full or part time. While I
concede that she has a disability, it should be noted that she has the
ability to carry on an active social life via the internet. She has
the same ability to attain some form of income through the same
channels of the internet that she uses for socialization. Her disability does not prevent her from driving or shopping.

The stress and trauma I suffered during my career caught up with me. I
was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder and depression in 2010. I have been treated on and off for depression since 1998.

I retired in April of 2011 after 25 years of service. Acting upon the
advice of my attorney I stopped paying alimony after I received my last payroll check in May of 2011 as Lisa began receiving $1,100.00 a month of my retirement benefit that same month.

Lisa’s attorney promptly filed contempt of court charges against me.
My attorney filed a motion for modification of alimony on my behalf on
August 10, 2011. One day before my contempt hearing.

During the contempt of court hearing on August 11, 2011, the judge found me in contempt of court and I was ordered to pay back alimony in the sum of $3,700.00, Lisa’s attorney fees and immediate reinstatement of alimony.

At the time Lisa was receiving $1,100.00 a month of my retirement
benefit in addition to $1,250.00 a month in alimony. She also
continued to receive over $800.00 a month in Social Security income.
This left me with $599.00 a month to live on. Think that is bad? Keep reading it gets worse.

In September of 2011, I received a notification from the Department of
Management services informing me that my alimony payments would be
increased to $1,359.41 a month until the back alimony was satisfied.
That left me with only $489.00 a month to live on. That lasted for
eleven months. I practically lived on bread, bologna and water.

In August of 2012, I was able to get the alimony reduced to $500.00 a
month.

As a former high risk employee of the state of Florida, I receive a 3%
cost of living adjustment every July. Lisa gets half of that. If I
go back to work my alimony will be automatically increased back to
$1,250.00 a month even if I got fired the next day. I would have to
take her back to court again at great cost and time to have it
reduced. As it stands now, she is receiving over $1,400.00 a month of
my retirement benefit in addition to $500.00 a month alimony. I do not
know the exact amount of my retirement benefit she receives as it is
deducted from my benefit before I even see it. It costs me $12.00 a
month to give it to her due to state deduction fees (alimony and
retirement benefit included…two separate charges) even though I
never agreed to that. It cost me over $8000.00 in attorney fees to get
screwed.

What do I get for taking care of her for 21+ years? She does not
have to do ANYTHING for me! NOTHING! Not even a thank you. This is for
life! The only time it stops is if I die or she dies. For disclosure
purposes, the alimony would stop if she entered into a “supportive
relationship.” She is not that stupid. Needless to say I am very
bitter and feel betrayed by a system I believed in and worked for most
of my adult life. How in the world is this just or right on any level?
It is not like I make a fortune. I am still physically healthy and strong and am capable of working but do not dare for fear of having to pay Lisa more alimony. The courts made sure they took my incentive and drive also.

I live alone in the woods with a small dog who gives me more emotional support then my ex ever did. I do not even want a woman in my house. I thought I was nuts until by chance I heard about MGTOW. Now I know I am not the only one. Thank you.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Logan:

If that’s your picture, please change your avatar. You want to be more of a ghost than that in case someone finds you here. For your own good.

And welcome. What a brutal story. Mine wasn’t good, but damn yours is way, way worse. Men are nothing more than an ATM for a woman that hates his guts….

Order the good wine

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

thanks for sharing your story. Welcome to the forums.

You mentioned alimony more than 10 times, and I had a recent thought suggesting that alimony is unconstitutional. : “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”

A man who has to pay alimony is not allowed to quit his job assuming that he doesn’t have vast amounts of savings to pay alimony.
The right to quit a job should be an essential part of “the pursuit of happiness”. Without this right, what’s the difference between a slave and a divorced man?

Is alimony unconstitutional? ("Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness")

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Logan6109Participant 32]

Thank you TaxGuy I just changed it. I could not agree more Blue skies.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

That is a horrible story Logan. I’m sorry. Society does not reward good men.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

If it were me, I’d give the bitch a choice: comply with my wishes or be destroyed.

If she chose the latter, I’d eliminate both her and the judge forcing the alimony.

As far as I’m concerned, I owe no human being on the planet anything, and someone forces their will on me, I will kill them. I’m nobody’s slave. If I was a slave in 1831, I would have joined Nat Turner’s rebellion killing slave owners.

Such imposers of force are not Gods, but if they act like they are Gods above me, I will make the arrogant false “Gods” bleed.

I’d rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. And if I’m going to die on my feet, I want to be surrounded by the dead bodies of my enemies, and the bringers of misery that I have laid down.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[ghostParticipant]

Welcome! You are home now, sir. Take a deep breath.

[Anonymous 7]

Welcome home logan.

[Logan6109Participant 32]

Why does the lion limp at the water hole Grue?

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Courthouses where they dispense “family law” are nothing more than temples for injustice and evil.

You know how you can know that I don’t have the power of the Q in Star Trek? Because if I did, I would have already snapped my fingers and disintegrated into ash all of those courthouses, judges and family law lawyers.

I hate parasites; that’s why I toss ticks and mosquitos that try to feed off of me, into the flame of a candle. Parasites should be burned into ash.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 7]

Logan6109 wrote:

Why does the lion limp at the water hole Grue?

This is most likely B.S. so grain of salt.

The idea goes that the lion limps at the water hole so to the prey animals the lion is injured.

Injured predators aren’t nearly as dangerous.

It is a smart ass way of saying, ghost yourself.
Don’t look like someone that has stuff that can be taken.

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t look like someone that has stuff that can be taken.

Unless you are known to be f~~~ing insane. Like me. They won’t f~~~ with you.

[Anonymous 13]

Welcome Logan.

Man, your post has me triggered.

The f~~~ing injustice of it all.

Bad things are coming.

MEN HAVE HAD THE F~~~ ENOUGH.

VERY BAD THINGS.

[Anonymous 7]

ghost wrote:

Unless you are known to be f~~~ing insane. Like me. They won’t f~~~ with you.

^^ This works too.

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

MEN HAVE HAD THE F~~~ ENOUGH.

We have and it’s time we deliver the pain by doing something very simple and easy.

[DocParticipant]

Welcome Logan.
What a dreadful tale you tell.
It’s abuse.
You have been ripped to pieces financially and ruined by a f~~~ed up system.
Stand tall. You are a survivor.
I stand in awe of your resolve.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

Welcome Logan. Straight a+ intro reading right there. It is a shame that men are double taxed or triple taxed…. alimony should be reduced by the amount you have to pay others to do the jobs she is not doing for you. Thankfully, we don’t have alimony in Australia since the 70’s

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

My own plan had my divorce gone into full rape mode was to charge $100,000 in gold on credit cards, melt down the gold into wire and make coat hangers out of the gold wire for my shirts, charge a flight to Vietnam (no US extradition treaty), melt the gold back down and sell it.

Retire. I’d have $100,000 in gold in a 3rd world country, and the ex would have gotten jack s~~~. She is fortunate that she didn’t try to f~~~ me over more severely.

When abused, I’m very much a Samson pulling the temple columns down kind of guy.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

First. Thank you for your service in law enforcement, Logan. That’s a thankless job — and in Florida, no less — America’s wang.

Second. Welcome Home.

Third. Merciful F~~~. That’s a hell of a story. Read carefully young men.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Heave-Ho MgtowParticipant 1797]

Welcome Logan. You may have just saved a lurker. Sure was a big red pill you handed out. I had to follow it with one big ass glass of water. Your among friends here.

skip the cavernous vag and go your own way

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