On Understanding Transpeople.

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

Greetings fellas. I have been looking into transsexuals and transgenders. Since the majority of the internet is filled with SJW retards, I thought I would bring my questions here in hopes of someone who might know the answers to them. Yes I know, this not a MGTOW thing, but I trust MGTOWs with their opinions and answers more than other groups of people.

1) How does one become transgender ? Is it random or is there something that triggers it or is it due to genetics or something else ?

2) What is the difference between transsexuals and transgenders ? How do I know if someone is a transsexual or a transgender ?

3) What is the difference between transgenders and tomboys and effeminate men ?

4) What gender pronoun should I use for a transgender ? Should I call a FTM a man or a woman ? Should I call a MTF a woman or a man ?

5) If out of nowhere, a man tells me to call him a woman because he feels he is woman or if a woman tells me to call her a man because she feels that she is a man, do I just oblige this person without being skeptical about it ? I ask this because I have seen a few people declare themselves a trans because its convenient.

6) Why is there this notion that trans folk are mentally ill and need help ? Is it true ?

7) Why do many of the trans folk associate themselves with the SJW movement ?

[ChuddoxParticipant 585]

Well, I’ll take a swing at this….

1) The process isn’t completely understood. This is (somewhat) related to question 3 as well. Brain development, and structure is different based sex, and sexual orientation. For instance, the Medulla Oblongata of both straight males and lesbian female show extreme similarities in structure and sensitivity to arousal from the presence of estrogen. The same is true about gay men and straight women regarding Testosterone arousal. Since brain structure helps at least partially define sexual characteristics there is some hypothesis that structural differences contribute to this. Whether it has a genetic or other causality I don’t think is currently known for sure.

2.a)There is a lot of SJW bulls~~~ embroiled in this. They use word confusion to muddy the waters and push their agenda. I’m not an expert, but the most concise explanation I can give is “Transsexuals are actively seeking sexual reassignment to the opposite sex. They take hormones, have surgery, etc. to conform physically to the sex they see themselves as (I.E. Blair White)” Transgenders, well, I got nothing that isn’t clouded by SJW crap.

2.b) If its done well, its VERY hard to tell a transsexual person, especially if they have had (good) reassignment surgery, and are taking hormone therapy. Earlier is better. Later transitioning people have more physical cues. But if you really want to know if that girl was dude…Hip to waist ratio is a good starting point. Index-ring finger length comparisons, and a few other things that are based on skeletal structure, since reassignment surgery doesn’t alter these things.

3)Each person has a series of Masculine and Feminine brain traits. A feminist researcher, of all things did a excellent study on the subject. The conclusions were, of course s~~~, since she concluded there was no such thing as a “masculine” or “feminine” brain since each brain had traits to some degree of both sexes. The error in this conclusion of course, is not recognizing that a brain will still PREDOMINATELY be one or the other with a few outlying traits from the other sex. Where this applies to tomboys and effeminates is they simply have a higher degree of opposite sex brain traits, and physical expressions. This is different from a trans who has the physique of one sex but the brain predominance and sexual identity of the other.

4) for a Transsexual FtM is Man, him, he etc. MtF is Woman, her, she. Even prior to surgery.

5.a) Always be skeptical, the world is full of weirdos. Remember: “Offense is never given, its always taken”. If someone gets offended. Too f~~~ing bad for them.
5.b) There are always people who will take advantage of a situation to claim “Victim Status” since this is what our culture now values. Tell these people to f~~~ off, and don’t tolerate their bulls~~~.

6) I don’t know…Ignorance? Xenophobia? I’m just guessing.

7) They don’t. SJW love to talk FOR people without actually asking what those people think about. Sort of like Feminism speaking for ALL women despite a significant backlash. Or gays, minorities, or anyone else they think they can exploit for victim sympathy cash. There are rather large groups of trans people that hate SJW’s (Theryn Meyer, and Blair White are two MtF’s I know of)

I hope this helps.

“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I only have very kurt and unfashionable answers, so throw them over your shoulder like spilled salt if they don’t work for you…

Darth Sin wrote:

1) How does one become transgender ?

I avoid all use of the word “gender”. The word is “sex”.
There is no such thing as “trans-gender”.

If they don’t make the physical change, they are called “cross-dressers”.
That’s it. (if they have not transitioned to another sex)
Otherwise they are sex changes.

Phrases like “identifying as” male / female or any number of all those “genders” is bulls~~~. Don’t even look at that crap.

Darth Sin wrote:

Is it random or is there something that triggers it or is it due to genetics or something else ?

Self loathing. How much would a dog have to hate itself to want to become a cat?

Darth Sin wrote:

2) What is the difference between transsexuals and transgenders ?

“Transgender” is the soft-ass lingo for “transsexual”.

Darth Sin wrote:

How do I know if someone is a transsexual or a transgender ?

Same s~~~

Darth Sin wrote:

3) What is the difference between transgenders and tomboys and effeminate men ?

If they didn’t make the physical change, they are not “transexuals”.

Darth Sin wrote:

4) What gender pronoun should I use for a transgender ? Should I call a FTM a man or a woman ? Should I call a MTF a woman or a man ?

Who cares.

Darth Sin wrote:

5) I have seen a few people freaks declare themselves a trans

Fixed.

Darth Sin wrote:

6) Why is there this notion that trans folk are mentally ill and need help ? Is it true ?

Who the f~~~ would ever pretend they are sane. ( That’s not a question ).

Darth Sin wrote:

7) Why do many of the trans folk associate themselves with the SJW movement ?

Who cares again.

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Understanding trannies is not on the menu. These freaks ARE tranny’s and actually get “triggered” when someone else uses the word. Like in the musical SHREK. That’s how much they hate themselves. They actually have a PROBLEM with what the are… and if anyone uses the word “tranny”, they call it called “transphobic”.

But who’s really got the phobia????

When you see a piece of dog s~~~ on the street and you say “hey look at that piece of dog s~~~! Don’t step in it!”…. do you have dogs~~~phobia? No. You just don’t want that s~~~ on your shoes.

In the real world I am fair and courteous to these types and was even “hit on” by a tranny hooker when I was out washing my car one night. Got no issues with that, some of them make a real effort and look better than real women.
So nobody can call me “transphobic” because I am not “afraid” of them. As a matter of fact, I saw one yesterday. From the back I could tell it was a wig and checked out that ass. Turned around and I could tell it used to be a he….. but he had a f~~~ing DROP DEAD hot body — even for a chick. The face was a surgical disaster, tho.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Some people have something called gender dysphoria .

Dysphoria a word with a meaning something like depression.

As far as i know science has no solid explanation as to why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[TestosteroneParticipant 12]

Find most of your answers here in this video:

https://youtu.be/aDAU3SPYFsA

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9600]

They’re mentally ill freaks that very few people accept. Social Justice Warriors are just whinny ass people who are not accepted by mainstream society and they force the world to accept and deal with their crap. I have no tolerance for people who force me to accept them, when they have no accepting of normal people.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[Anonymous 42]

“On Understanding Transpeople”.
That word ^^^^^ again! To stand-under or to under-stand….

NO, not having it! You’re NOT supposed to cut your dick off! NO, you’re NOT supposed pump your body full of chemicals! NO, your NOT supposed brainwash the next generation into thinking something’s wrong with the god given parts they have!
Perhaps they should take their argument to places like Iran. FREE TRANSGENDER SURGERY! F~~~ING FREE! So why don’t you f~~~~~y c~~~ cutters get in line at the f~~~ing Iranian embassy.

Understand! HA! Try overstanding some of this sick f~~~ing s~~~ and shoving back down the porthole to hell whence it came from!

Hey IRAN, You’re welcome to all you can cleave! Even their organs are s~~~ from disease, or toxic drugs.
Pieces of s~~~! Every f~~~ing one of them! S~~~ goes in the f~~~ing toilet, not over my head as I try to UNDERstand.

The WEST is now like the grasslands of the Serengeti after a 10 50 year drought! I mean it when I say “let the motherf~~~er burn“, because it’s the only alternative to using the toilet. Can’t flush it! F~~~ING BURN IT!

The only understanding I need to understand is logic! F~~~ these freaks!

I smell death leaking from my time machine!

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Transgenderism is (for the moment) a recognized disorder. So yes, it’s a mental illness. It’s often associated with things like body dismorphia (where you think your leg is alien or something and your deepest desire is to chop it off) and anorexia: situations in which a person looks in the mirror and sees an image of themselves that does not match reality. It’s not their genes, chromosomes, genitals or hormones that are to blame: it’s their brain. If you look in the mirror and see something that does not match reality, the problem is not reality, the problem is in how your brain processes the information.

How can we be sure? Because it clusters. Mental illnesses cluster as people buy into s~~~. So does transgenderism: in Thailand, home of the ladyboy, they say over 1% of the population have it compared to minuscule numbers elsewhere. If it was just an abnormality, or even a normal thing, then it would occur everywhere, not just cluster in places where people think and talk about it a lot. The brain is very open to suggestion and mental problems can be ‘catching’, like hysteria or panic. One person does it, then others see them doing it…

Sadly, though, for serious sufferers, I don’t know there is any cure, like there is no cure for body dismorphia or schizophrenia. You live with it or you give in, cross dress, take hormones and get your body mutilated and tell yourself every day, “I’m a woman!” Every chromosome in your body says otherwise. Sad, very sad.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

If someone wants a sex change, let them. I’m not a doctor or a shrink, so if they see nothing wrong with it then who am I to tell someone what to do.

4) What gender pronoun should I use for a transgender ? Should I call a FTM a man or a woman ? Should I call a MTF a woman or a man ?

I worked in a bookshop in the “gay” part of a major city in my 20’s. The job paid well enough for what it was and the relaxed working conditions where nice. I was also one of only two “straight white male” people on staff. The other was an ex-Marine who was our security guard most of the time. This was before SJWs existed and Political Correctness was not nearly as common. Most customers and most staff got along great. No “identity politics” to split us up. We used to joke that the guard and I where the “normals”. It was all in good spirited fun.

We had a lot of trans customers and even had some on staff at times. In a sense, treat them just like anyone else.

The store policy was pretty simple and just common sense. If they are trying to look female, then address them as such. If they are trying to look male, address them as such.

And as some of that kind of clientele can be, if you can’t honestly tell, and you guess wrong, don’t worry about it. As the owner told one angry mega butch lesbian, “I didn’t hire him as a mind reader.”

I should also point out that what most people who would be considered the “weirdos” where hardly ever a problem, it was the “normal” or “normal looking” ones who caused the most headaches.

You don’t have to approve of what they do or the choices they make. Treat them as well as you want to be treated. It goes a long way.

7) Why do many of the trans folk associate themselves with the SJW movement ?

I think the SJW’s chose them to associate with because they can’t resist a good potential victim narrative. My guess is the fact that trans folk not being accepted by most people doesn’t give them a lot of choices.

I’m really surprised you couldn’t find a resource on the web that addresses this.

Frank V.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

It’s a mental disorder that should be treated with compassion via counseling. It may be the result of childhood trauma, among other things.

Fringe behavior shouldn’t be championed and encouraged and given a victim complex as an excuse to deflect valid criticism. Enablers are using these people as a means to serve their selfish ends. It’s extremely cruel and creating far worse conditions for the people they are pretending to care about. But of course that’s the SJW modus operandi.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[DDJParticipant 1880]

Here’s what I understand about transgender people. They are either genetic males or genetic females. Our sexuality isn’t determined by our organs…it’s determined by our chromosomes. XX for female and XY for males.

There has never been any credible scientific evidence that transgender people existed throughout history except relatively recently. Cross dressers sure…but not actual transgender. Even in genetics, its an abnormality.

This is why when you give a man female genitalia…he had to take female hormones and pills for the rest of his life…further…his body rejects it often causing liver failure and other issues.

To me, thanks to this article from the Dr. McHugh from Johns Hopkins University, transgender is a mental health disorder like any other. It should be treated not lauded. Those who support the mentally unstable transgender community are enabling their illness not helping them.

Less than 1% of the population identifies as transgender…and 70% of those spontaneously revert back to identifying as their biological gender. Yet, the media shoves this disorder down our throat daily…speaks volumes on our society.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Testosterone wrote:

Find most of your answers here in this video:

https://youtu.be/aDAU3SPYFsA

I was planning to post this video up in this thread.

And my reply would be basically what Keymaster said, but with this, to show how mental transgender people are.

Baby’s First Dildo -courtesy of the Transgender Movement

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/more-than-just-undies-the-smallest-details-are-the-most-important-for-parents-of-transgender-kids/story-fnet08ui-1227539339418

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

How does one become transgender ? Is it random or is there something that triggers it or is it due to genetics or something else ?

I don’t know and I don’t give a s~~~. Trannies are just freaks of nature.

2) What is the difference between transsexuals and transgenders ? How do I know if someone is a transsexual or a transgender ?

Easy. If they were born with a c~~~, then they’re a woman. If they were born with a dick, then they were born a man. There are some exceptions, such as hermaphrodites, but those sorts of people are very rare and are irrelevant.

If they get butthurt because I use the wrong pronoun, I don’t give a s~~~. I call it like I see it.

3) What is the difference between transgenders and tomboys and effeminate men ?

Trannies are freaks of nature. Tomboys are just a little more masculine than most women. Effeminate men are just a little bit more feminine than most men are. The only difference is, that tomboys and effeminate men accept the sex they were born with. Trannies don’t. Which makes them freaks of nature.

4) What gender pronoun should I use for a transgender ? Should I call a FTM a man or a woman ? Should I call a MTF a woman or a man ?

Who the f~~~ gives a s~~~? If you look like a man, I’m gonna call you a man. If you get butthurt over that, then that’s your problem, not mine.

5) If out of nowhere, a man tells me to call him a woman because he feels he is woman or if a woman tells me to call her a man because she feels that she is a man, do I just oblige this person without being skeptical about it ? I ask this because I have seen a few people declare themselves a trans because its convenient.

Do whatever the f~~~ you feel like doing. I’d just end up calling him a man. A pussy-whipped vagina worshipping man, but a man nontheless. If he gets butthurt over that, then that’s his problem. He just needs to practice stoicism more.

6) Why is there this notion that trans folk are mentally ill and need help ? Is it true ?

They may or may not be mentally ill, but there’s definitely something wrong with their brain. If people didn’t encourage this s~~~ in society, then they could actually get help for their problem instead of encouraging it further.

7) Why do many of the trans folk associate themselves with the SJW movement ?

Because most trannies are male-to-female and want special vagina privilege while still keeping their dick in most cases. I.E., Bruce Jenner.

But, the real crazy ones are the ones that cut off their dicks and nutsacks. If you cut off your dick and nutsack, you’re not even worthy enough to be called a man.

I can understand men wanting to be women to gain female privileges, but the ones who cut off their genitals to get that privilege are just f~~~ing insane.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

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