Old Tradcon Men Need To STFU

[SolidParticipant 7520]

~BS wrote:

Old tradcons had wives that operated within these guidelines. With wives nowadays that pretty much do the exact OPPOSITE of this, then will divorce rape you, they really don’t have any basis to be telling younger men what to do.

If he works hard to bring bread home, it’s the MINIMUM that she could do for him. Seriously ! I’m not exaggerating ! If you put 8 hours of hard work, she must put 8 hours of hard work too ! It’s called GENDER EQUALITY. Or both have the get paid the same, and contribute in an equal proportion to everything in the house, or it’s not equality.

For today’s women, gender equality is the man paying everything, even a maid ! And keep telling her how strong and independent woman she is !

This is the real gender equality, if she can’t make enough money, it’s not HIS FAULT, she must contribute to make it equal in other ways (treats, cooking, taking care of the house). Besides, men also do house work, who fix something ? Who cut your grass ? Fix the car ? Fix the roof ? That need to be accounted !

Or she have a job that pay the same as the men and DO HER PART OF THE HOUSE WORK, or she stays at home and treat his man like a king, and put a strong effort into the kids to make them learn !

This is the true equality, means equal effort !

For example, you both have 8 to 18 jobs, both make the same amount of money, when you get home, she MUST cook you something delicious, or if you do, expect she to spend 12 hours under the sun in a hot day to fix the roof, did you really think that it’s “equal” ? By equal, 40 hours of easy work = 10 hours of hard work. If she spend 40 hours doing some easy house work, you spend 10 hours doing a man’s house work, that is much harder physically. Compare wash the dishes with moan the grass, wash the car outside and inside, put pesticide around the house and fixing a roof under in a day which marks 50 celcius ? If feminists think that this is the very same, so let’s exchange, I do the dishes, and they fix my things when they broke !

But now let’s remove the job from the woman, what you got ? A nice pay check that WONT COME. She must do something that would compensate that, and by that I mean, what a man would accept for working from 8 to 18, 5 days a week and sharing half of his paycheck with her ?

Brothers, some well cooked meals, a clean house and clothes, well behaved kids, good sex, and don’t be bothered is the very very very minimum that you should expect !

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Faxmodem wrote:

I get the same crap. Oh but not all women are like that. I am told. That’s a bunch of BS. They just hate the fact that were not getting married, and instead were going our own way. Were not doing as they were told, as we know the game of marriage is stacked against us. Why play the game when you know your going to lose big in the process. I guess were smarter than they were. I bet if they could go back, they would make a different choice. I know many times I been told I am very smart for not marrying. The divorce guys at work are jealous of me, No child payments, no Ex, money in the bank, not having to deal with court battles.

I am happy, life is good. I rather die on my feet than my knees a slave to the system.

I find a good way to dodge this nagging ! I keep some nude pictures of girls that I flirted in my cellphone. So I say “well, I’m interested in this girl, she send me this picture of her by accident, she said that she was trying to send it to another friend, she is a single mother of 3, she was never married, but she is a nice person, we can’t get together yet because I wasn’t able to save enough money, she said that we can only be together if I’m willing to be her husband and for that I should pay help her to pay the bills”. This is a good way, there is no sane person who put me courage into “doing that”, sometimes play the extreme bluepill for the bluepillers make them realizes some s~~~. When people say NWALT, I just answer that it is the best that I could get, so they just give up talking about that. Is magical, I suggest you to do the same !

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Solid wrote:

I find a good way to dodge this nagging ! I keep some nude pictures of girls that I flirted in my cellphone. So I say “well, I’m interested in this girl, she send me this picture of her by accident, she said that she was trying to send it to another friend, she is a single mother of 3, she was never married, but she is a nice person, we can’t get together yet because I wasn’t able to save enough money, she said that we can only be together if I’m willing to be her husband and for that I should pay help her to pay the bills”. This is a good way, there is no sane person who put me courage into “doing that”, sometimes play the extreme bluepill for the bluepillers make them realizes some s~~~. When people say NWALT, I just answer that it is the best that I could get, so they just give up talking about that. Is magical, I suggest you to do the same !

Good plan!
Anyone here who has their MGTOW glasses on can likely think back to a similar conversation and wonder ‘why didn’t I see this before’. How being a blue pill made you ignore or not even see the warning signs.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

It is with great regret; that I must inform you, that you’re correct.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

When “Grandpa” grew up: “divorce” was a dirty word; so was “single mother”.

Not only that but the United States paid the highest wages, employment and cheapest prices in the world at that time.

They had it better relatively overall. Houses were bought with cash or mortgages paid off in 5-10 years. A college degree was an automatic ticket to the middle class. You could work your way through college. Regulations and taxes were low. Crime was low. Morale was high. The government was smaller, less invasive. Etc. Etc.

Baby boomers had it so f~~~ing easy relative to today. With women. Jobs. Housing. Community. Everything. They don’t understand what the younger generation can and cannot do. I call it “positive ignorance”.

“So you wanna start a business?” – “Just start a business!”
“So you need a job? – Just get a job!”
“So you need a place to live?” – “Just buy a house!”

I know it’s cliche but the older generation doesn’t “get it”. If you were born before 1960 you lucked out. You grew up during a time where it was probable to marry a loyal loving wife who didn’t have to work, low taxes, a decent paying job, an affordable home, affordable healthcare etc.

This older guy I know was showing me pictures where he saved up to buy a corvette, and a boat, from delivering newspapers when he was 19.

After High School he had the manufacturing/factory job offers with a high school diploma in 1967 offering $9-$10/hr. That’s around $80/hr+ in today’s USD. Can you imagine a high school graduate with 3 job offers after high school for $80/hr?

Show me ONE. Just ONE.

His first house? $5,000 in a safe clean crime free slightly lower-middle class neighborhood paid off QUICK. Of course now his newest house is worth $750,000.00 USD. And of course – the younger generation is supposed to buy it.

Try doing that s~~~ today. Go ahead. Try it.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

TattooDave wrote:

It’s funny because they project their belief systems on to the world as if everybody believed the same way they did. Is that not the most bizarre thing you have ever seen. I get this with my own father who thinks that everybody should believe exactly like him and if they don’t they’re an idiot. There’s a unique psychological term for it but I can’t remember right now.

To be honest with you I think many people are affected with this disorder because I see the same thing I hear the same thing and it makes me just as sick. I just don’t listen to it much anymore I’ve learned to tune it out. That’s one thing you don’t have to do you never have to get married and learn to tune it out even though it comes in handy. @murph

The worst case of this I saw was a dude flipped his s~~~ when someone ordered pickles on their burger. He didn’t like pickles on his burgers, and got angry that someone else did, and took it as some personal insult or something. He was this way about everything. He listened to Rush Limbaugh religiously and would lose his mind in the parking lot at work, screaming inside his car at some of the s~~~ Rush was saying… You would walk by, and he would be red faced and ranting full blast: “You f~~~ing liberals!!!!!! F~~~ you Harry Reid!!!” LOL

Dude was a f~~~ing nut.

And yes the old school: real men hold doors open for ladies and give up their place in line etc. need to just die out already. The world has changed, and they apparently never took notice that there are no ladies, and that they consider themselves stronger and more fierce than a combat hardened marine. until they need or want a man’s help that is.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Michael wrote:

When “Grandpa” grew up: “divorce” was a dirty word; so was “single mother”.

Not only that but the United States paid the highest wages, employment and cheapest prices in the world at that time.

They had it better relatively overall. Houses were bought with cash or mortgages paid off in 5-10 years. A college degree was an automatic ticket to the middle class. You could work your way through college. Regulations and taxes were low. Crime was low. Morale was high. The government was smaller, less invasive. Etc. Etc.

Baby boomers had it so f~~~ing easy relative to today. With women. Jobs. Housing. Community. Everything. They don’t understand what the younger generation can and cannot do. I call it “positive ignorance”.

“So you wanna start a business?” – “Just start a business!”
“So you need a job? – Just get a job!”
“So you need a place to live?” – “Just buy a house!”

I know it’s cliche but the older generation doesn’t “get it”. If you were born before 1960 you lucked out. You grew up during a time where it was probable to marry a loyal loving wife who didn’t have to work, low taxes, a decent paying job, an affordable home, affordable healthcare etc.

This older guy I know was showing me pictures where he saved up to buy a corvette, and a boat, from delivering newspapers when he was 19.

After High School he had the manufacturing/factory job offers with a high school diploma in 1967 offering $9-$10/hr. That’s around $80/hr+ in today’s USD. Can you imagine a high school graduate with 3 job offers after high school for $80/hr?

Show me ONE. Just ONE.

His first house? $5,000 in a safe clean crime free slightly lower-middle class neighborhood paid off QUICK. Of course now his newest house is worth $750,000.00 USD. And of course – the younger generation is supposed to buy it.

Try doing that s~~~ today. Go ahead. Try it.

That’s a great point, the economic situation is WAY different than what it is now. It was different even when I was growing up.

For example, when I was in college, it cost me around $3000/year. I worked a part time job making $10/hour. Ignoring taxes, etc etc for simplicity, it cost me 300 hours of working a year. Nowadays, tuition costs are astronomical, but we’ll use $20000 as an example. That’s 2000 hours of working a year, which represents full time work.

So while I was easily able to afford my tuition costs with a part time job, it would take a full time job or more today

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

And yes the old school: real men hold doors open for ladies and give up their place in line etc. need to just die out already. The world has changed, and they apparently never took notice that there are no ladies, and that they consider themselves stronger and more fierce than a combat hardened marine. until they need or want a man’s help that is.

He is trying to manipulate your ass into becoming just like him and his beliefs but if he really believed that men just need to die and give up s~~~ to women then he f~~~ing already would have went and died for them, or he would have went into nam and died.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

That’s a great point, the economic situation is WAY different than what it is now. It was different even when I was growing up.

For example, when I was in college, it cost me around $3000/year. I worked a part time job making $10/hour. Ignoring taxes, etc etc for simplicity, it cost me 300 hours of working a year. Nowadays, tuition costs are astronomical, but we’ll use $20000 as an example. That’s 2000 hours of working a year, which represents full time work.

So while I was easily able to afford my tuition costs with a part time job, it would take a full time job or more today

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There is a reason for this: Egalitarianism.

This was the basis for expanding government backed student loan programs. Anyone with a pulse can get a student loan. Now everyone has a college degree. They did it for the banks.

It was all special interest driven. They pulled the race card to justify it. Colleges got rich. Banks won. Corporations won (smart workers for cheap). Landlords won (students debt + low wages = forced to rent).

Now these obtuse baby-boomers expect you to fund their retirements; money they did NOTHING to earn; by purchasing hyper inflated Real Estate!

I’ve known people who’ve literally lived off borrowed student loan money for 10+ years and are 300k+ in debt.

You wouldn’t believe how obtuse these “baby boomers” are when you bring this subject up. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks, as the saying goes. Baby boomers have this “image” of college as being some kind of coveted valuable ticket to the middle class.

Uber driver. In his 60’s. He points to his daughters photo on the dash and says:

“She is the reason I work 60 hour weeks. So my little girl can get her masters degree” (points to photo) (chick looked like a typical blonde dorm party slut, BTW)

I didn’t say anything to him but, I’ve tried to explain this to people age 60+ . They deny, argue, then dismiss me as an idiot. They have this “image” in their heads about the way things “are” and don’t want to let it go.

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