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it is too much like women.
I left them a box of Vagasil.
Look at at the tone of the posts and you know at one glance who of us here are the women.In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
My impression of Old bill was that he tended to see things in black or white only. There was never any shades of grey. It did not matter what someone’s personal experiences and situation was, you were either correct in your thinking or you were incorrect. That’s great for some people, but many times people need to feel like you understand them before they will start trying to understand you. As well, the sacrifice some men would have to make to get to the ‘full MGTOW’ is much higher than other people.
To add to that, he seems to enjoy calling people fools or some similar incident. Again, it comes off as an attack, which tends to cause retaliation instead of listening. It’s his style and it is what it is.
That’s not to say that he didn’t have a lot of wisdom and was rather good at communicating principles. I’d prefer that he be here rather than not, as I feel about many of the folks who are no longer here.
All that said. The infighting comes off as really silly to me. I don’t care about my reputation here, or what others may feel about me personally. I know who I am, and can take any insult or criticism for what it is. Sometimes it’s just noise and sometime there is constructive criticism buried in there. That’s part of the reason why I never wanted to get too involved with people here, zoom and all that. I don’t want people’s opinion of me here to start to matter to me.
Ok. Then do it.
Anonymous12look, Dickhead, you are not KM.
this is KMs Kingdom but you act as if it was yours.
KM can show off his achievements here and i keep my f~~~ing trap Shut – you… you can stuff your “achievements” up your arse.
Together with all your 5 inch hard drives.Is my philosophy “counter productive to our cause”
There is no cause.
There is no mission.
There is no productivity.
There is no saving Mankind
Nor Menkind.
I am not an employee – double triple sure not Yours nor anyone elses’ round this place.
Men can not be saved – they need to save themselves.
They will need to keep learning through pain.This place is not the United nations, it is not a safer space than any other webspace.
This might be a Place for men who got mauled and are FUBAR –
But you asshat can not do anything but bitch around stuff that revolves around “the dark summer”.You are too old for this s~~~.
you hold on to things like
credibility,
past achievements,
past c~~~s punted
and your awesome ideas on how to run this place.
me me me listen to me, i have a clue.Your inability to let go is poisoning your mind, as if you had it all figured out and knew the Absolute Truth
You keep fighting a war against people long dead, long Gone.
This started out as a topic of appreciation.
the decent thing to do would have been for YOU to stay out of it.resolve your mental issues – write OldBill a nasty E-mail and get it over with.
as i said – you make me Puke.
cannot wait to get that “deleteme” button.There is no need to punt a c~~~ here – there is a need for a straightjacket to be delivered to a certain address in Deutschenlanden.
I’ll see myself outhat, coat, door.
Old Bill was an unimaginative man. If someone’s story didn’t fit his dower narrative, he made up things you never said to make it fit. To me he was no better than a feminist insisting you behave a certain way. His favorite tactic was to guilt you into listening to him by claiming you weren’t listening. All the while he was not listening. I understand the tactic. Soyboys are children who need to be spanked. But of-age males, no matter how lost, are still men who must be treated with respect if any bond is to be made and lessons truly learned. Old Bill calculated that the spanking was more valuable than the bonding. And now he’s gone. I’ve been gone for a year after a brief but intense intro and fights with Old Bill. In that time I’ve tried to cancel my membership and stop the auto charges to my credit card. I even got an email from Keymaster I guess saying it would stop and I’d be refunded. I just got another bill on my credit card for August. It’s f~~~ing laughable how mismanaged this site is. So since I’m still being charged, I decided to see what’s up. The first post I came across was this. Ironic. About my card still being charged…. I’m going to start a new thread. But how different is this site still sucking my funds against my will any different from a divorced wife? Ironic.
The above is perfect example on how a newcomer gets messed with. So many posters disrespecting his “high class” lifestyle and picking on him. Trying to force “what is right and what is wrong” down his throat.
Supertroll OldBill with his “wisdom” up front – which is why member ModR8 chimed in here in the first place.
I believe that ModR8 owns a car like this and that he has the house he claims. Since I have a parallel life in some way. And I believe that he has a choice in women… LOL. Like I still do (if I wanted)
But he got f~~~ed with and his intro was his last thread.
And he cancelled his subscription… KM lost money because of some “wisdom” spitting group of self-centered fools here.
Repeat that over and over and no one pays a dime in the end.
/forums/topic/i-need-a-punch-in-the-face/
And no one saw the humor in the thread title…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
There is no mission.
Then you are in the wrong forum.
MGTOW is the mission.
Thanks for telling the world why you are here.
TUNA.
Women lose their spelling abilities when they are “triggered”.
And she is only here to bitch and every one of her past posts were “I don’t care” bulls~~~.
No constructive discussion.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
There is no saving Mankind
You need to go home.
We post here to save men from the gynocentric traps, biased laws, marriage fraud and enslavement.
Or does anyone NOT agree with me on this one? Then rethink why you are here.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I’ll see myself out
hat, coat, door.
Reminds me of girlfriend no. 3
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
look, Dickhead, you are not KM.
I have posted this about a million times already and I never wanted any “control” over anything here.
I only offered help and all of what I ever suggested was a “decision making” voting system (to stop fighting) involving 5 other TRUSTED members at the same time.
And KM gets everything for review. I never stated anything else.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
You are too old for this s~~~.
you hold on to things like
credibility,
past achievements,Yes, I thought that this place should be full of men with honor and credibility.
And everything a man is NOW is the result of his past decisions.
You just gave away that you tick like a feminist.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
and your awesome ideas on how to run this place.
me me me listen to me, i have a clue.…yes they actually worked and that p~~~es you off.
I made my money by “having a clue”.
And not by throwing tantrums.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
KM can show off his achievements here and i keep my f~~~ing trap Shut – you… you can stuff your “achievements” up your arse.
Together with all your 5 inch hard drives.I do not save MGTOW videos for women…
I do it for us. For those who DO CARE.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
The infighting comes off as really silly to me.
I do not fight.
I just let them roast my fireproof door.
Or kicking in 6 layer bullet-proof glass.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I don’t want people’s opinion of me here to start to matter to me.
A wise choice and viewpoint.
My issue is “the messing” with the men who come here, beaten down and needing advice. They often do not have the shield we have. And treating them with understanding and tolerance is first priority.
Tolerance is key: I also never agreed with everybody – but then I simply stayed off his thread. It does not advance MGTOW to put someone down for his hobbies.
Same here: And if you do not like tuna hunting, then you just stay away. And not start inner fighting over who can participate and who not.
And whenever I saw a post about a piece of music or a car I do not like, then I just moved on and would never get on the thread calling out “the bad taste” of the OP. This is not for me to judge.
All of this fighting is simply a result of the entitlement to rule over others some members here think that they have.
Well – like a feminist forum. If you don’t agree, they’ll kill you.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Gargamel, you sure do know how to nurse a resentment.
Wiser men than I, usually recommend something like this.
Try to realize that you don’t really hate Old Bill (or any perceived enemy or person you hate), but rather you pity them.
In fact, you see how that person is sick/ill. Why do you hate a sick animal and wish it dead? NO, you pity it. In fact you pity is so much that you should pray for it’s health and return to well being.Gargamel, you should pray for Old Bill, pray and wish him well being. Then, you might be relieved of this deep poison that is afflicting you. The resentment and poison is living in you, not him. You need to get free of it.
I hope you get liberated soon. With love and well meaning -Gravel Pit
Im atheist, but I can see the wisdom in the expression Xtians use, “God, save me from being angry.”
F~~~ all that noise, f~~~ feeling like that. I dont have freewill, nor can I choice to not feel. But it OCCURS to me that change is possible. It occurs to me that I have a tool that is accessible, that is to realize that those people are sick/insane and that they do not have freewill either and can’t help that they’re are retarded. My anger towards them is like having an argument with a tree stump… its futile. I need to be relieved from my own insane anger and resentment. I that is what occurs to me to do, and I do it.
You need to get free of it.
I hope you get liberated soon. With love and well meaning
I am liberated.
I love posting real topics on my new home and watch it grow.
And I enjoy my video archiving too. Just bought another 6 TB last week.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
.There is no saving MankindNor Menkind.I am not an employee – double triple sure not Yours nor anyone elses’ round this place.Men can not be saved – they need to save themselves.They will need to keep learning through pain.
I tend to agree that mankind cannot be saved, but I disagree about not being able to “save” men.
Had MGTOW been online before I ever got married, my exposure to it would have led me to become red-pilled and I never would have done the things I did. Sure, some men will stay blue-pilled until they have literally been divorce-raped 5 times.
But some men would get enough information to be able to save themselves.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Gargamel, you sure do know how to nurse a resentment.
Wiser men than I, usually recommend something like this.
Try to realize that you don’t really hate Old Bill (or any perceived enemy or person you hate), but rather you pity them.In fact, you see how that person is sick/ill. Why do you hate a sick animal and wish it dead? NO, you pity it. In fact you pity is so much that you should pray for it’s health and return to well being.
Gargamel, you should pray for Old Bill, pray and wish him well being. Then, you might be relieved of this deep poison that is afflicting you. The resentment and poison is living in you, not him. You need to get free of it.
I hope you get liberated soon. With love and well meaning -Gravel PitGood advice, or as Marcus Aurelius said: “When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: the people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous and surly. They are like this because they can’t tell good from evil. But I have seen the beauty of good, and the ugliness of evil, and have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own – not of the same blood and birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. And so none of them can hurt me. No one can implicate me in ugliness. Nor can I feel angry at my relative, or hate him. We were born to work together like feet, hands and eyes, like the two rows of teeth, upper and lower. To obstruct each other is unnatural. To feel anger at someone, to turn your back on him: these are unnatural.”
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Since KeyMaster is not here…
Here is KittyMaster reading this thread:
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
The infighting comes off as really silly to me.
I do not fight.
I just let them roast my fireproof door.
Or kicking in 6 layer bullet-proof glass.Dude, seriously, be whoever you want to be, I don’t care. But do yourself a favor and don’t bother to pretend to be somebody you’re not. Let your actions match your words.
You can’t go through 5 pages posts, a good 20% and more of them yours from you, solely about infighting and then claim you don’t fight. If what’s said about you doesn’t bother you, then actions would dictate that you bow out.
If you are not bothered by what others say about you, then you would say that you came back here just for the purpose of deny what you said were lies about you.
You clearly give a damn about what other people think of you. Big freaking deal. There’s nothing wrong with it, it’s how you’re wired. Clearly, no one is buying that you’re this fireproof wall that you want everyone to think you are.
And honestly, I shouldn’t have said I don’t care what other people think. More accurately, I try not to. I keep people at a distance to make the job easier, which isn’t always a healthy habit. We’re all full of faults.
I say this not to insult you in anyway, and I’m not even going to pretend that I give much of a darn about you. Take the advice or ignore.
Ok. Then do it.
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